Can’t access playlists on ND5XS

Posted by: pixies on 10 December 2011

I have been enjoying listening to the new ND5XS over the past week and it is sounding fantastic with my 152xs/Flatcapxs/155xs.

I access my FLAC music files via both Asset and Squeezebox Server UPnP servers using the n-stream app on my iPod Touch. After some initial set up issues and the usual advice from this forum things are going well. However one outstanding issue is that I cannot access my playlist folders. When I try on either server, the n-stream app just seems to keep searching and then getting stuck! When I use my squeezebox players I can access the playlists so I know they are there.

If anyone has experienced this or has any solutions please let me know?

Posted on: 16 December 2011 by pixies

Anyone?

I guess this problem falls somewhere between Naim and Squeezebox but I thought I may have had at least one answer? I'm feeling a bit dejected!

Posted on: 16 December 2011 by aysil

Pixies, good luck with your ND5XS!

Are your playlists situated in your UPnP server? Afaik, Squeezebox Server is not a UPnP server, it has its own protocol. If your playlists are imported into your UPnP server (Asset in your case) there should be no problems.

Posted on: 16 December 2011 by pixies

Thanks aysil

Squeezebox has just updated its software to Logitech Medai Server which facilitates UPnP. In fact it is working really well with the ND5XS except for the playlist issue.

Posted on: 16 December 2011 by Jack

Are your playlists m3u files and have you configured their location in Asset (same place you configure the music directories)? Also if you created the playlists with another program do they point to the correct drive when loaded into Asset?

Posted on: 17 December 2011 by pixies

Hi Jack

All FLAC files, however I will do some checking in the directories to make sure everything is pointing in the right direction

Posted on: 19 December 2011 by Chris Shorter

I am using the Logitech Server with ND5XS and playlists don't appear at all in NStream. I suspect it is the LMS not making them available. Fortunately, I don't really bother with playlists.

I'm pleased with how it works otherwise. Interestingly it serves up 24/192 stuff even though no Squeezebox can deal with it. I think I'll stick with it as I have SB too and it means I don't need to have two servers and I'm already familiar with SqueezeServer.

Posted on: 19 December 2011 by pixies

Hi Chris. Yes maybe I will just have to do without playlists via the ND5XS. I actually don't use them that much either, I was just concerned that I was missing something in the set up.

Posted on: 27 December 2011 by CraigB

Hi Pixies,

So in your system, how is the comparison between ND5X and Transporter? I have Transporter right now into NaitXS. Used to be into nDAC but had to sell that recently to release house extension funds.

But hopefully soon I'll start rebuilding and am interested to hear how the ND5X stacks up.

Posted on: 27 December 2011 by pixies

Hi CraigB

Well I have been using the ND5XS for some weeks now as my Transporter went back to Logitech to resolve a problem under warranty (they have actually sent me back a brand new player!).

I have been a big fan of the Transporter as it replaced a previous CDX/XPS front end which I have not missed since starting to stream music. However the ND5XS really makes listening to music a more enjoyable experience. The bass is more defined and tighter and the whole musical presentation is clearer and more involving. I have been prepared to stick with the Transporter but when I plug it back in to do a comparison I really feel something is missing and that it has to work harder to get to the same level as the ND5XS.

Before I commit I am interested to see how the nDAC works with the Transporter, however this is slightly more costly and also introduces another box which I am not particularly keen on. Still it’s nice to take some time to make sure I make the right choice.

I hope that helps?

Posted on: 28 December 2011 by CraigB

Cheers for that pixies. I always thought my Transporter sounded incredibly accurate and resolving but ultimately boring in its rendering of music, and it wasn't until it became a digital source for my nDAC that it got a lot better. But for me there was always the niggling thought that an all Naim streamer must be a better bet.

Sounds like with the Nd5xs they now have a comparably priced all Naim alternative. Hope to demo at my dealer in the next few weeks. Thanks for your comments.

Regards,
Craig.

Posted on: 28 December 2011 by P. Bender

A friend of my bought a NAIM .flac player (ND5 XS) in combination with a Windows Home Server 2011 (WHS 2011). After a day struggling we got everything working except for the .flac playing through the NAIM. We could see the UPnP in the list of devices and the iPod and mp3 files but NOT the .flac. After 10 hours working and installing we called it a day.

Today we did quite a bit of Googling and got it working.

In understanding UPnP and it related problems this "superuser"site article helped a lot. Also did a provide it a direction for where to find the solution

Here is how we did it:
- downloaded the dbpoweramp WHS UPnP installation, tried to install it and it did not work. (Error message: This is not a WHS server )
- downloaded the dbpoweramp W7 installation and installed it on the WHS 2011. This installation does NOT show up as an "installed add-in", whoever is does work.

At the NAIM you will get (eventually) the Assest UPnP in the list of availble sources. Through here you can play the .flac files from the ND5 XS.

Some people told us to disable / uninstall the WHS UPnP. As far as I can see now this is NOT needed. I'm a bit carefull for uninstalling / disabling the WHS UPnP service because I assume that WHS relies on the service to be running.

Next step will be installing the RipNAS. However given the fact that the UPnP did not work with the WHAS 2011 version I'm a bit sceptical on that. Second step will be connecting an USB CD/DVD reader through an USB->UTP->USB cable.

If any one has any advice on this two steps ..............

Paul Bender

PS has anybody any tips on how to access, operate and configure the ND5 XS through a webbrowser? You can remotely control it with an "app" but the webpage does ONLY give the IP configuration (an a wee bit more) but NO configuration options. This has to be done through the frontdisplay of the ND5 XS which sounds a bit stupid if you got a webserver running on the machine

Posted on: 28 December 2011 by Chris Shorter

I really haven't found any problem with getting FLAC to the ND5 at all. I've used the following methods and they all streamed FLAC straight-away.:

UPnP server on my Buffalo NAS

JRiverMedia Server.

Foobar 2000

The basic media server in Vista

The new UPnP server in Logitech Media Server

I've stuck with the last one as I also have a Squeezebox and don't really want two servers running.

Can't help you with the web-interface for the ND5 configuration - there isn't much anyway.

Chris

Posted on: 28 December 2011 by Salmon Dave

Chris

I also have a SB and an ND5XS but not using the former now, so I was wondering why you have both in your system?

Posted on: 28 December 2011 by Chris Shorter

Originally Posted by Salmon Dave:

Chris

I also have a SB and an ND5XS but not using the former now, so I was wondering why you have both in your system?

Easy! Two rooms, two systems, one music collection!

Chris