What are you listening to and WHY might anyone be interested? (Vol.VIII)

Posted by: Richard Dane on 29 December 2011

With 2012 almost upon us, it's time to start a fresh thread.  I've gone back to an earlier thread title because often the "why" is the most interesting part of the post.

 

Anyway, links:

 

Volume VII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...6878604287751/page/1

Volume VI: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878604097229

Volume V: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605140495

Volume IV: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605795042

Volume III: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607309474

Volume II: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606245043

Volume I: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607464290

 

 

 

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by Haim Ronen

 

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by Kevin-W

On Japanese vinyl - from the days when they (New Order) were good!

 

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by NathanJ

Kevin - There are a couple of significant New Order releases due soon on vinyl, one from "when they were good".

 

The full 18 minute version of Elegiato coinciding with the 30th anniversary of Ian Curtis's suicide.

I suspect that this EP will be hard to find.

http://www.nme.com/news/new-order/63223

 

Also Lost Siren's, a mini-LP (with the CD bundled in) of outtakes from their last album.

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by NathanJ:

Kevin - There are a couple of significant New Order releases due soon on vinyl, one from "when they were good".

 

The full 18 minute version of Elegiato coinciding with the 30th anniversary of Ian Curtis's suicide.

I suspect that this EP will be hard to find.

http://www.nme.com/news/new-order/63223

 

Also Lost Siren's, a mini-LP (with the CD bundled in) of outtakes from their last album.

Hi Nathan

 

The 18-minute "Elegia" has already been released - as an extra disc on the first few copies of the "Retro" box set from 2002 (which I was approached to help compile - although in the end nobody took my advice and most of my suggestions/source materials were never used  - although I did get paid quite a lot of money for my time ). The EP you mention is a semi-legit bootleg, which AFAIK has not yet come out.

 

The Lost Sirens LP keeps being put back - I have to say that the idea of outtakes (ie tracks that weren't good enough) from New Order's least inspiring LP doesn't fill me with excitement. By the time WFTSC came out the group had pretty much run out of energy, ideas and tunes. They really miss Rob's quality control (he died in 1999)  IMHO.

 

There is some fantastic stuff in the vaults - including a pro-shot gig from New York in 1980 when they were still a trio. Although the famous Western Works demos are now available on the internet in stunning quality, they could still do with an official release. And Hooky/Rob's estate have a number of early gigs (1980-3) recorded on reel-to-reel off the desk. I have some of these as bad quality boots but would love to hear them in pristine quality. There are also some fabulous demos/outtakes from Technique and Low-Life...

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by NathanJ

Thanks Kevin.  The semi-legit status of the Elegia EP doesn't surprise me.  I was looking for on-line stores selling the vinyl while listening to the version on YouTube this afternoon.  While the full version of Elegia is majestic (and makes much more sense that the 5 minute edit), none of the on-line stores that should be selling the vinyl version were.  As you say it is available legitimately on CD/download elsewhere.

 

I'll probably end up buying Lost Sirens as I've bought all their studio LPs over the years and I'm unlikely to stop now but I agree with you about outtakes.  Put simply there's a reason why outtakes were outtakes and in the majority of cases they should stay that way.  (Although I've not heard the Technique and Low-Life demos/outtakes that you refer to.)  I'm not a big fan of the recent spate of re-issues (from seemingly all artists) bundling often dozens of unnecessary tracks onto the end of old albums.  To me they detract from the original selection.

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by patk

Grateful Dead - Europe '72: City Hall, Newcastle, England (4/11/1972)

 

3 CD set.  My first to listen an individual show from the Europe '72 tour.  Previously just had the compilations.  I did not get  "Europe '72:  Complete recordings" set, just bought a few individual shows. 

 

 

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by naim_nymph

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by BigH47

Time for a Richard Thompson fix, here joined by his ex:-

 

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by Jonn

At least Linda Thompson can sing. Richard Thompson is a talented musician and songwriter but let down by his limited vocal range on his solo albums. 

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by BigH47

It's what he sings not how. I personally don't have a problem with his voice.

 

There are plenty of "rated" singers I wouldn't give ear room to though. Tom Waits for one is so bad I can't even try to listen to the lyrics.

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by EJS

Earlier this evening...

 

EJ

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by EJS

 

Now...

 

EJ

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by naim_nymph

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by naim_nymph

 

Heinz looking very wind-swept on the cover-picture....

This is actually a good thing for one of the world's finest oboe players,

who wouldn’t want to look strung-out,

and certainly not brassed-off : )

 

Debs

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by AndyPat
Originally Posted by BigH47:

.... Tom Waits for one is so bad I can't even try to listen to the lyrics.

Tom Waits has lyrics?

 

 

 

 

Murray Perahia (with ASMIF) - Mozart Piano Concertos. Played over and over and over again.

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by Chief Chirpa
Had this on again...
 
 
...and remembered I saw this reply this morning, and forgot to post back:
 
 
Originally Posted by Lontano:

Oliveray... Quite nice. Not as good as Felt......

 

Ok, cheers. It can wait a while...

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by Chief Chirpa
Originally Posted by Lontano:

Chief, if you want to buy the odd one or two, then Diverse Vinyl is probably the best way to buy. £50 a piece and no hassle with shipping from the US and custom charges.

 

Otherwise I buy normally from Acoustic Sounds or Elusive Discs and then take my pick between the Music Matters releases and the Analogue Productions 45rpm releases. As you say, this is when it makes sense to do  a good sized order so that your unit cost per item is not so bad. I find that shipping for one item is not too much different from shipping for several. As for custom charges, it is hit and miss, sometimes I do not get charged. I do not know how Music Matters themselves calculate shipping but when I was subscribed it was getting crazy receiving two a month, with high shipping and customs so I stopped and pick and choose what I want now in a block order, or buy from Diverse when I see them at a show.

 

As for an investment, these are going to be very resaleable in time. I am not sure why Grant Green sold out so quick and is commanding a very high price. As you can see though, once gone, it will be the secondhand market only for these beauties.

 

Cheers

 

I didn't even realise anywhere else sold MMs. I haven't had a chance to look properly today, though thanks for now.


I expect I'll go for Speak No Evil and A Blowin' Session and maybe one more for starters - definitely not TEN (Nice score!)

 

Originally Posted by Steve J:

Chief,

 

I do the same as Lontano, buying mainly from Acoustic Sounds. I don't have to worry about custom charges though as my 2 kids go to the States 3-4 times a year and bring back an order of 4-6 records for me. My son has recently 'sold his soul to the devil' and starts working for Goldman Sachs in July after he finishes his Economics degree at Bath. He's going to New York in July so I'll be placing an order with AR soon. Children have some good uses. Bless 'em.

 

Steve

 

Steve, Thanks, I had to laugh at your post for a couple of reasons...

 

I've quickly looked at Acoustic Sounds and saw - "If you order $1,000 or more, receive 10% discount (and) $10 off overseas postage." (Erm, ok, I'll make a list then.)

 

You must be really proud of your boy - getting into GS can't be easy. Your 'sold his soul' line reminded me of the occasional 60 hour weeks I had during my training contract - the firm I was with back then even had beds on the top floor. I'm sure it'll be worth it though, and NYC is an amazing city, of course.

 

Cheers,

CC

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by Chief Chirpa
Originally Posted by reubs1981:

You know me so well, I will always comment on Abel. I thought there were moments of greatness during the performance, not least The Morning into House of Balloons.  Sure, not fully comfortable, but I think a dark room may suit him better.

Going to listen to Purple Drank now, for the title if nothing else!

You can hear the whole of that Axel Boman EP at http://soundcloud.com/pamparec...xel-boman-holy-love/ The title track sounds more like something you might find on Defected.

 

I clicked on Pampa Records and noticed all three Isolée albums are on there too. I've not got last year's Well Spent Youth, though I love the first two. Just in case you don't know it, you need to hear this...

 

 

On now, not too loud.

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by naim_nymph

 

Anton Bruckner (1824-1896)

 

Symphony no.8 in C minor (version 1890)

 

Te Deum

 

Jessye Norman soprano

Yvonne Minton mezzo-soprano

David Rendall tenor

Samuel Ramey bass

 

Recordings: Polydor International (p) 1981

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by patk

 

Hybrid SACD.

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by naim_nymph

 

Trevor Pinnock harpsichord...

David Way, Stonington, Connecticut USA (after Hernsch)

Roland Pidoux cello...

Stradivarius 1692

Jean-Pierre Rampal flute...

Wm. S. Haynes Co., Inc., Boston Massachusetts no.29333

 

Recorded in the church Notre-Dame du Liban, Paris

 

RCA © 1985 (2 x LP box-set)

 

~<>~

 

 

Posted on: 20 May 2012 by kuma
 
Originally Posted by EJS:

Besides Gulda, in #20 I love Perahia (I've just ordered Sony's new remastering, hopefully they did a better job than last time), and Uchida's new one with the Cleveland. About the latter, if you haven't heard it, it may surprise you how powerful Uchida's playing has become, compared to her earlier accounts.

EJ,

 

I haven't heard the Gulda or Perahia's 20. ( it's on my 'to-hear' list )

 

I was wondering about Uchida's latest 20 with Cleveland.

 

I have listened to her older set with Tate, and whilst I admire her delicate interpretation and filigree lacking urgency and weight. But sounds like the latest version shows more of confidence.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I'll definitely give it a go at later date.

 

Giseking's Debussy Suite Bergamasque

Sounds better than the Seraphim reissue.

 

Now I wish I could find a better sounding his earlier '51 recording.

Posted on: 21 May 2012 by Flettster

 

A lot less saccharin sweet than the first Hollie Cook album. This is a great dub album for people into this genre. Highly recommended IMHO.

 

Cheers

Flettster

Posted on: 21 May 2012 by Flettster

 

Patrick Watson - Adventures In Your Own Backyard

 

Chanced upon this artist on one of my regular Amazon trawls. Not quite sure how to describe this.

 

Mr Watson has a high falsetto delivery, melodic folk with a slightly dark side.  All recorded in his Montreal flat.

 

Cheers

Flettster 

Posted on: 21 May 2012 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by Flettster:

 

Patrick Watson - Adventures In Your Own Backyard

 

Chanced upon this artist on one of my regular Amazon trawls. Not quite sure how to describe this.

 

Mr Watson has a high falsetto delivery, melodic folk with a slightly dark side.  All recorded in his Montreal flat.

 

Cheers

Flettster 

Flettster

 

His/their (the band is also called "Patrick Watson") second album, "Close to Paradise" is absolutely terriffic and I can't recommend it highly enough - available on vinyl and CD.

 

They're well worth catching live too.

 

 

K