What are you listening to and WHY might anyone be interested? (Vol.VIII)

Posted by: Richard Dane on 29 December 2011

With 2012 almost upon us, it's time to start a fresh thread.  I've gone back to an earlier thread title because often the "why" is the most interesting part of the post.

 

Anyway, links:

 

Volume VII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...6878604287751/page/1

Volume VI: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878604097229

Volume V: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605140495

Volume IV: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605795042

Volume III: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607309474

Volume II: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606245043

Volume I: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607464290

 

 

 

Posted on: 24 May 2012 by Florestan

It has been decades since I dabbled with Karl Czerny on the keyboard.  In my younger days it would have been out of necessity as many required studies for younger players just happens to be from Czerny.  Since my son started grade 1 piano around 6 months ago my interest has been rekindled.  I am having a blast learning and learning many of these studies.  Not that this is profound music across the board because it clearly isn't on the level of other great composers.  It is because Czerny had a prodigious understanding of training fingers.  For every weakness he had a way to build technique.  Most are simply rapid, well-articulated, ear-tickling creations.

 

Czerny wrote more than a 1000 works in his lifetime.  Prodigious enough to become a student of Beethoven and in turn he himself became a well respected teacher who passed on the torch to the likes of Thalberg and Liszt to name just two. 

 

Posted on: 24 May 2012 by Florestan

From fun to profound.  No one plays Chopin without having first learnt the ropes with Czerny and others like him.  After 180 years or so, Chopin's Preludes and Etudes have not been surpassed by anyone although only a small handful might be considered to have come close.  They stand as the pinnacle of artistic creations that happen to have extreme technical difficulties central to there core.  While Czerny was mostly focused on finger exercises I do not think Chopin could ever have written just finger exercises just as the letters that form words on a page are not the primary goal of any great writer or a brush stroking paint in unique ways on a canvas the final goal of a great painter.  But all great creations rely on stupendous technique though but not as the means to an end.

 

Posted on: 24 May 2012 by Florestan

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by KeanoKing

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by KeanoKing

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Gale 401

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Flettster

 

Cheers

Flettster

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Gale 401

Today so far.

Stu.

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by David Leedham

 

Find this gets played more when the sun shines for some reason, awesome piece of vinyl!

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Gale 401

Now this.

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by David Leedham

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by BigH47
Originally Posted by David Leedham:
 
Re: Abraxas:-
Find this gets played more when the sun shines for some reason, awesome piece of vinyl!

My version sounds crap.

Todays music so far:-

 

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by David Leedham
Originally Posted by BigH47:
Originally Posted by David Leedham:
 
Re: Abraxas:-
Find this gets played more when the sun shines for some reason, awesome piece of vinyl!

My version sounds crap.


My version 1970 CBS release is quality

 

played it so often that I thought would get a simply vinyl 160 gm expecting improvements on a well played old favourite. However does not have the same detail, sounds compressed, I dont listen to this version very often as it is a let down. 

 

 

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Gale 401

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Andy Piercy

 

 

Vinyl

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Aleg

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Gale 401

Disc 2 from this 3 disc set.Stu.

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Aleg

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Gale 401

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by EJS

 

Generally find Mendelssohn too sunny and simple to make a lasting impression, but happily make an exception for his second violin concerto and these two piano concertos (although the violin concerto is the clear masterpiece). 

 

Cheers,

 

EJ 

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by EJS
Originally Posted by Florestan:

From fun to profound.  No one plays Chopin without having first learnt the ropes with Czerny and others like him.  After 180 years or so, Chopin's Preludes and Etudes have not been surpassed by anyone although only a small handful might be considered to have come close.  They stand as the pinnacle of artistic creations that happen to have extreme technical difficulties central to there core.  While Czerny was mostly focused on finger exercises I do not think Chopin could ever have written just finger exercises just as the letters that form words on a page are not the primary goal of any great writer or a brush stroking paint in unique ways on a canvas the final goal of a great painter.  But all great creations rely on stupendous technique though but not as the means to an end.

 

Doug, it's interesting to see that your obvious affection for the piano has led you to express on multiple occasions that you try to find the worth in every pianist's performance, refusing to 'rank them' (just in terms of personal preference, not capability of course), while you happily state that Chopin's preludes surpass everybody else's. That would include the sterling efforts of Rachmaninov and Debussy, and really Bach as well... whereas I'm happy to state my preference for certain performances while no amount of punishment could force me to accept the superiority of Chopin over Bach or Debussy. A bribe might do it, but then I grew up in a pre-crisis world

 

EJ

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Jono 13
Originally Posted by Andy Piercy:

 

 

Vinyl

Fold out rear and postcards?

 

Jono

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by pocusfocus

Getting ready for the programme on BBC 4 at 9pm

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Andy Piercy
Originally Posted by Jono 13:
Originally Posted by Andy Piercy:

 

 

Vinyl

Fold out rear and postcards?

 

Jono

Sadly not, It was part of the "Selekt" range distributed by Linn. Made by Demon records in 1984.

 

Andy


 

Posted on: 25 May 2012 by Gale 401

Disc one from this three disc set.Stu.