What are you listening to and WHY might anyone be interested? (Vol.VIII)

Posted by: Richard Dane on 29 December 2011

With 2012 almost upon us, it's time to start a fresh thread.  I've gone back to an earlier thread title because often the "why" is the most interesting part of the post.

 

Anyway, links:

 

Volume VII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...6878604287751/page/1

Volume VI: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878604097229

Volume V: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605140495

Volume IV: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605795042

Volume III: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607309474

Volume II: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606245043

Volume I: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607464290

 

 

 

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

Japanese vinyl

 

Kevin,

What number is your copy?

Stu.

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by Gale 401

On the 10" black stuff.My son bought this for me for fathers day this year.

 He does have good taste in music when he buys for his dear old.

Stu.

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by naim_nymph
Originally Posted by Gale 401:
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

Japanese vinyl

 

Kevin,

What number is your copy?

Stu.

 

Eins.. zwei.. drei.. vier.. fünf..!

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by naim_nymph

Phillips 9xLP box-set : )

 

playing the no.7 in A, op.92 [+ overture 'Fidelio' op.72c]

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by patk

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by kuma
 
Originally Posted by Florestan:

Why is Beethoven looking at Mendelssohn here?  And he doesn't look very amused about whatever it is?

 

I only have Backhaus on CD with the complete Piano Sonatas of Beethoven and my overall impression has always been of what a wonderful sense of rhythm Backhaus has.  I'd sure love to hear this here too....

 

I don't know why the pix of Mendelssohn either. It should have been the pix of his Immortal Beloved!

 

I've only heard two of his Beethoven Sonatas: No15 & and wonderful No.26.( Les Adieux )

 

How is his Moonlight?

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by kuma

 

Mozart Piano Concert No.20: Haskil/Markevitch

 

This is very different from her earlier set. Bold, daring ( for her anyways ) and more creative cadenza.

I feel this is a much more *together* set than the one with Fricsay.

 

This stereo CD sounds pretty good, too. I bet the original vinyl is even better.

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by matt podniesinski

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by Florestan
Originally Posted by kuma:
 
Originally Posted by Florestan:

Why is Beethoven looking at Mendelssohn here?  And he doesn't look very amused about whatever it is?

 

I only have Backhaus on CD with the complete Piano Sonatas of Beethoven and my overall impression has always been of what a wonderful sense of rhythm Backhaus has.  I'd sure love to hear this here too....

 

I don't know why the pix of Mendelssohn either. It should have been the pix of his Immortal Beloved!

 

I've only heard two of his Beethoven Sonatas: No15 & and wonderful No.26.( Les Adieux )

 

How is his Moonlight?

Backhaus' Moonlight Sonata is wonderful.  A no nonsense affair, rock solid technically and with superb voicing and architecture (long line).  Very compelling actually with only the tiniest hint of romanticism or sentimentality which is kept in tow by his focused objectivity.  For Backhaus, it is about clarity (perfectly voiced harmony), phrasing, and rhythm.

 

This afternoon I was working on the Tempest Sonata a little bit so I decided to have a listen to some random recordings.  I only had enough time to listen to eight different recordings but out of the old school guys (and gal), Wilhelm Backhaus came out on top for me.  He is a very strong player in certain aspects.

 

Actually, the cover of that album probably has more meaning to it than initially one might suspect.  All kinds of symbolism as a chiseled Beethoven towers over a meekly Mendelssohn.  I think both Mendelssohn and Schubert had it toughest to come nearly directly after Beethoven and both trying to be creative and find there own voice under such a large shadow of Beethoven.  You could say that early Mendelssohn had many markings of a late Beethoven.

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by DrMark

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by Florestan

I forgot I had this but I'm still fuming that it isn't on vinyl!!

 

Listened to Piano Concerto No. 4 in G-major earlier

Wilhelm Backhaus / Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt 

Not sure when the 4th was recorded but all the Concertos were recorded in Vienna between April 1958 and June 1959)

Assuming it is the same performance as that wonderful vinyl copy above (boo hoo hoo )

 

 

 

Now I'm going to enjoy this again through DVD

Wilhelm Backhaus / Karl Böhm

Piano Concerto No. 4 in G-major recorded in April 1967.  Backhaus was 83 at the time and would die two years later.

 

 

Posted on: 19 August 2012 by kuma
Originally Posted by Florestan:
Backhaus' Moonlight Sonata is wonderful.  A no nonsense affair, rock solid technically and with superb voicing and architecture (long line).  Very compelling actually with only the tiniest hint of romanticism or sentimentality which is kept in tow by his focused objectivity.  For Backhaus, it is about clarity (perfectly voiced harmony), phrasing, and rhythm.

That sounds like how I hear his Sonata No.26. Structured and controlled. Very mucho with clear tone and dead on note delivery. I found it interesting as if there is a sense of melacholy and sadness but a bit of anger mixed in. Series of strong bold strokes.

I bet he adds interesting angle to this old overplayed No.14.

 

An interesting quote by Backhaus on timing and rhythm:

 

"As for the metronome, I approve of it to cultivate the sense of rhythm in those who are lacking in this particular sense. I sometimes use it myself, just to see the difference between the mechanical rhythm and the musical rhythm – for they are not always the same by any means."

Originally Posted by Florestan:
Listened to Piano Concerto No. 4 in G-major earlier
Wilhelm Backhaus / Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt
Not sure when the 4th was recorded but all the Concertos were recorded in Vienna between April 1958 and June 1959)


Yep. That's the same set. When I was shopping for his No.1 I found a London box set containing all of his Concertos from the same session.
Backhaus recorded No.4 10 times in his career. Love to hear his earliest recording ('29) and the live recording with Guido Cantelli/NY Phil. ( '56 )

Backhaus/Böhm video is lovely indeed. I like Böhm's orchestration too.

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by naim_nymph

Phillips 9 x LP box-set : )

 

Playing..

 

Symphony no.2 in D, op.36

plus:

Overture 'Leonore' no.1, op.138

Overture 'The Consecration of the House', op.124

 

(p) 1975

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by Chords

 

Cabezon: Canto a mi Caballero

Wonderful music of the blind composer.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMHhx1-TE7g

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by dav301

On CD:-

 

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by matt podniesinski

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by matt podniesinski
I still have the cassette of this I bought in the late 70s. Something about mud sharks and kicking something to get it to start if I recall correctly.
 
Originally Posted by dav301:

On CD:-

 

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by EJS

 

The three Op.2 sonatas. Astonishing, I don't think I've ever heard these works come off as mature and musically convincing as under Arrau. This is proving to be a remarkable set (apart from the album art... I mean, seriously... Arrau, Beethoven, and the recording team deserve much better).

 

EJ

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by kuma
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:
Phillips 9 x LP box-set : )

Playing..

Symphony no.2 in D, op.36
plus:
Overture 'Leonore' no.1, op.138
Overture 'The Consecration of the House', op.124

(p) 1975


I see Masur hasn't put you to sleep yet.

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by Guido Fawkes

 

This sounds even better on vinyl than it did on CD ...  and not to put too finer point on it America's finest always seem to deliver

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by naim_nymph
Originally Posted by kuma:
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:
Phillips 9 x LP box-set : )

Playing..

Symphony no.2 in D, op.36
plus:
Overture 'Leonore' no.1, op.138
Overture 'The Consecration of the House', op.124

(p) 1975


I see Masur hasn't put you to sleep yet.


 

His number Seven did, however his number Two is quite fabulous actually.

 

number twos? - have to watch wot you say around here!

 

The cover-art is a number two...

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by Guido Fawkes

 

Another vinyl classic - this time from Sparks 

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by Haim Ronen

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by Florestan

Johannes Brahms: Radu Lupu

Sonata for Piano no 3 in F minor, Op. 5

Theme and Variations for Piano in D minor

Rhapsodies Nos. 1 & 2 for Piano, Op. 79

Pieces (6) for Piano, Op. 118

Pieces (4) for Piano, Op. 119

Intermezzi (3) for Piano, Op. 117

Concerto for Piano no 1 in D minor, Op. 15 (Edo De Waart/London Philharmonic Orchestra)

Posted on: 20 August 2012 by Florestan

Franz Schubert: Imogen Cooper

Sonata for Piano in C minor, D 958

Moments musicaux (6) for Piano, D 780/Op. 94

German Dances (16) and Ecossaises (2) for Piano, D 783/Op. 33

Sonata for Piano in G major, D 894/Op. 78

Impromptus (4) for Piano, D 935/Op. 142