A fan of E.S.T. any new trios which I should check out ?

Posted by: Bert Schurink on 18 January 2012

I am fan of E.S.T. and like their specific new approach to trio jazz. Any suggestions besides the obvious ones: Neil Cowley, Tritochomy, FM Trio ?

Posted on: 18 January 2012 by pcstockton

Uri Caine's Bedrock Ensemble?

Posted on: 18 January 2012 by Lontano

Yes. Not all quite the same as E.S.T. as they were very innovative and pushing boundaries but these are all top class with many similarities and primarily European

 

Helge Lien Trio - probably the best trio out there at the moment - try the last two albums - Natsukashii and Hello Troll (available from Linn in 24 bit hires)

Phronesis - getting a lot of press in the UK and superb - try Green delay and Alive - new album coming in April.

Colin Vallon Trio - Rruga - top notch

The Bad Plus - American band and as innovative as American jazz gets  

In the Country - on Rune Gramafon label

Alboran Trio - on ACT

Espen Eriksen Trio - You Had Me At Goodbye

Tord Gustavsen Trio - first three albums, Being There is my fave

Możdżer/Danielsson/Fresco - Between Us and the Light - hard to find - try Polish websites

Benedikt Jahnel Trio - Modular Concepts

Anat Fort - And If

Julia Hulsmann Trio

Marcin Wasilewski Trio - January and Faithful

Peter Erskine Trio - Time Being, You Never Know

Stefano Bollani Trio - Stone in the Water

Stefano Bollani - Jesper Bodilsen - Morten Lund - Gleda

Pablo Held - Forest of Oblivion and Music

Prysm - Second Rhythm

Wollny/Kruse/Schaefer - Em Live 

 

Some E.S.T. related albums, but they are not trios

 

Magnus Ostrom (the EST drummer) - Thread of Life

Dan Berglunds Tonbruket (the EST Bass player)

 

An old thread where I posted quite a few good choices...this is well worth working your way through

 

https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606677696

Posted on: 18 January 2012 by mrclick

Absolutely endorse Lontano's selection.

 

You may also like:

 

Avishai Cohen Trio - Gently Disturbed

John Taylor Trio - Rosslyn (on ECM)

...and whilst not a trio, do try out Impossible Gentlemen, title of album the same.

 

Posted on: 18 January 2012 by winkyincanada

I enjoy the Brad Mehldau Trio. Mehldau, Grenadier and Rossy. Music perhaps not really like E.S.T. but still modern jazz.

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Bert Schurink
Hi Lontano, your list and the link is very helpful and interesting. 70/80% of what you listed I have already ...but the remaining 20-30% is interesting to explore. I just got into Robert Glasper, also quite interesting music. Thanks a lot. Originally Posted by Lontano:

Yes. Not all quite the same as E.S.T. as they were very innovative and pushing boundaries but these are all top class with many similarities and primarily European

 

Helge Lien Trio - probably the best trio out there at the moment - try the last two albums - Natsukashii and Hello Troll (available from Linn in 24 bit hires)

Phronesis - getting a lot of press in the UK and superb - try Green delay and Alive - new album coming in April.

Colin Vallon Trio - Rruga - top notch

The Bad Plus - American band and as innovative as American jazz gets  

In the Country - on Rune Gramafon label

Alboran Trio - on ACT

Espen Eriksen Trio - You Had Me At Goodbye

Tord Gustavsen Trio - first three albums, Being There is my fave

Możdżer/Danielsson/Fresco - Between Us and the Light - hard to find - try Polish websites

Benedikt Jahnel Trio - Modular Concepts

Anat Fort - And If

Julia Hulsmann Trio

Marcin Wasilewski Trio - January and Faithful

Peter Erskine Trio - Time Being, You Never Know

Stefano Bollani Trio - Stone in the Water

Stefano Bollani - Jesper Bodilsen - Morten Lund - Gleda

Pablo Held - Forest of Oblivion and Music

Prysm - Second Rhythm

Wollny/Kruse/Schaefer - Em Live 

 

Some E.S.T. related albums, but they are not trios

 

Magnus Ostrom (the EST drummer) - Thread of Life

Dan Berglunds Tonbruket (the EST Bass player)

 

An old thread where I posted quite a few good choices...this is well worth working your way through

 

https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606677696

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by droodzilla

Well, I was going to chip in, but Adrian (Lontano) beat me to it with his comprehensive list.

 

I've been playing Anat Fort's "And If" a lot recently and it's an exceptionally fine album full of memorable themes. The Benedikt Jahnel is great Steve Reich influenced jazz, and is also very addictive. Of the others mentioned, I especially like the oddly named [em] trio (Wollny, Kruse, Schaeffer). The live album is a great introduction - but [em] 3 (their third album) is their most ambitious work to date. Their music is a bit more angular than EST, with a definite 20th Century classical music influence, but it's hugely reqarding once you get into it, and sounds as ground-breaking as any music being made right now. You can see them in action here:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFWaIhyvmAE

 

And finally yes, John Taylor, love his work. Rosslyn, his only outing on ECM, is a classic, but you should also check out his two trio albums on Camjazz with Martin France and Palle Daniellson ("Angel of the Presence" and "Whirlpool").

 

Happy Hunting!

Nigel

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Lontano
Originally Posted by Bert Schurink:
Hi Lontano, your list and the link is very helpful and interesting. 70/80% of what you listed I have already ...but the remaining 20-30% is interesting to explore. I just got into Robert Glasper, also quite interesting music. Thanks a lot. Originally Posted by Lontano:

Bert - I would be interested to hear back which ones you decide to explore that you do not have. Maybe you have some others that you could recommend also.

 

I also like Robert Glasper.

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Lontano

Some more for you.....

 

Baptiste Trotignon - Share

Bobo Stenson - his ECM catalogue

Enrico Pieranunzi - he has a huge back catalogue but I am particularly fond of Seaward

Giovanni Mirabassi - Dal Vivo and Live at the Blue Note Tokyo

DOHP/Doky/Riel - Misty Dawn

Prysm - On Tour

 

 

Have you ever tried a band called The Necks - they are a trio from Sydney that do improvised albums - normally one long piece and can be very interesting although sometimes challenging. Drive By is a good one to try.

 

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Gale 401

Adrian,

I have seen the Necks on tv.

Interesting bunch.

Stu

Posted on: 22 January 2012 by Bert Schurink
I haven't had time to explore your suggestions completely....however I did like Prysm and Phronesis. Some suggestion from my side:
Yaron Herman - all
Tingvall Trio - all
Gerald Clayton - all
Tigram Hamaysan - fable
Trygve Siem - Purcor Songs for ..
Trioscence - all but last album
Trio Troykeat - 
Tritochomy - all
Neil Cowley Trio - all so far
.......
more to follow
 
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Lontano:
Originally Posted by Bert Schurink:
Hi Lontano, your list and the link is very helpful and interesting. 70/80% of what you listed I have already ...but the remaining 20-30% is interesting to explore. I just got into Robert Glasper, also quite interesting music. Thanks a lot. Originally Posted by Lontano:

Bert - I would be interested to hear back which ones you decide to explore that you do not have. Maybe you have some others that you could recommend also.

 

I also like Robert Glasper.

Posted on: 22 January 2012 by Bert Schurink
Listened some stuff from these guys, however miss a bit the dynamics..., as complex music lover (prog etc), I need a bit more...
 
Originally Posted by Gale 401:

Adrian,

I have seen the Necks on tv.

Interesting bunch.

Stu

Posted on: 23 January 2012 by winkyincanada

Try also Fred Simon. On the Naim Label!

Posted on: 24 January 2012 by Lontano
Thanks Bert for your recommendations. I have quite a few but will try out some I don't have.

Hopefully you have seen the good E.S.T. news today.

http://www.actmusic.com/news_a...s_id=333&start=1
Posted on: 24 January 2012 by droodzilla

Excellent news (although I still have my reservations about Leucocyte). It must have been hard for the two surviving members to revisit that material.

 

Also on the ACT site, details of "Wasted and Wanted", the new album from [em]:

 

http://www.actmusic.com/produc....php?products_id=354

 

The samples (which include a cover of Kraftwerk's "The Model") sound really good.

 

And a new CD fro the Vijay Iyer Trio:

 

http://www.actmusic.com/produc....php?products_id=352

 

Lots to look forward to!

Posted on: 24 January 2012 by Lontano
And the new Lars Danielsson album with Magnus Ostrom, Arve Henriksen and Tigran
Posted on: 24 January 2012 by too old to rock

Bert,  what a splendid post , produced some very interesting replies and some new music to trawl through.  Most of the bases have been covered but wondered if you had listened to CJ3 (King Crimson Trio) Take the genius of Fripp and stir in a contribution from some very accomplished jazzers and you have some excellent listening. For some guitar led trio work similarly adventurous try Manu Codjia Trio.

Posted on: 24 January 2012 by Noogle
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

I enjoy the Brad Mehldau Trio. Mehldau, Grenadier and Rossy. Music perhaps not really like E.S.T. but still modern jazz.


+1 for Brad Mehldau Trio.  "Art of the Trio Volume III - Songs" is one of my all-time favourite albums.

Posted on: 24 January 2012 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Noogle:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

I enjoy the Brad Mehldau Trio. Mehldau, Grenadier and Rossy. Music perhaps not really like E.S.T. but still modern jazz.


+1 for Brad Mehldau Trio.  "Art of the Trio Volume III - Songs" is one of my all-time favourite albums.

I'm a big fan. I enjoy the use of familiar contemporary themes like Nick Drake, Beatles and Radiohead to "anchor" the jazz improvisation. It makes it more accessible to a part-time jazz fan like myself.

 

I had the pleasure of seeing Brad and the trio at the St Georges in Bristol a few years back. Great show at a great intimate venue.

Posted on: 25 January 2012 by JWM

To the list, especially to Lontano's pretty comprehensive selection, I would add:

 

The Kit Downes Trio.

 

Their 2009 debut "Golden" was very well received, and indeed Mercury Prize nominated.  Their new recording is "Quiet Tiger".

 

Not a trio I grant, I would also highly recommend the quartet "Empirical" (Naim Label).  Very interesting, and in some ways challenging.  Heavily inflenced by Eric Dolphy.  Amazing and totally committed liv performers.

Posted on: 25 January 2012 by Bert Schurink
All,

This has been a very interesting post so far. I got quite some input and suggestions, while I also realized that we had a lot of names in common. I also appreciated the feedback on the new expected releases including a new E.S.T...release.

I am very much looking forward to the coming weekend with quite a number of interesting new releases:
Neil Cowley Trio
Portico Quartet
Chick Corea
Lars Danielsen

.....I still have an interesting suggestion for the others in this specific category: the Fm Trio, and Nik Bartsch Ronin (a bit repetitive though)
Posted on: 25 January 2012 by Lontano
Nik Bartsch is one off faves. I would have listed it but you said piano trios!!

I have all his albums both ECM and non ECM.

A few of us forum members saw him before Christmas in concert in a wonderful hall in London with the best quality sound system I have heard. The show was phenomenal.

I am on the train home now but will be listening to the new Neil Cowley when I get in :-)

It is good to have you around here Bert as we seem to enjoy a lot of the same, and for me, exciting music
Posted on: 25 January 2012 by Bert Schurink
Hi Lontano,

Your right about Nik not fitting the exact definition .....which is also true for the Portico Quartet...... It's indeed interesting to see the amount of overlap. While I alos have to say that I am besides jazz very much into progressive rock, but I have seen that I am not alone in the forum...
Posted on: 25 January 2012 by Lontano
Prog is where it all started for me and still some of my fave music. I find a lot of the ECM and European Jazz a logical progression from the prog. I often describe the jazz I like as European Progressive Jazz.
Posted on: 26 January 2012 by Noogle

Thanks guys for all the suggestions on this thread - it's a fantastic resource for me.

Posted on: 29 January 2012 by fred simon

I semi-humbly suggest you try these two fine piano trio albums on the Naim label:

 

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Enjoy!

 

All the best,

Fred Simon