Where can I download quality music

Posted by: Davidmanne on 18 January 2012

As I understand it, one of the main reasons for the shift to streaming is that we can obtain equal or better than CD recordings via download.  

Also, some music may just not be available at the corner music store.

I am battling to find sources of music.  There is obviously the Naim site, but that is very limited.

Where do you recommend I look to find the sort of download that justifies the Naim equipment.

 

Many thanks

David

Posted on: 18 January 2012 by garyi
Hddtracks has a fair amount of good stuff.
Posted on: 18 January 2012 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Hi David, as Gary says HDTracks is a good source, but officially can't export outside US/Canada, but quite easy to work around.
I think the use of streaming to play downloads for the majority of music is overstated. Unless you are an iTunes / Spotify addict which are good sources for lossy files, really the benefit of streaming is that of an alternate CD transport, kind of like those CD carousels / jukeboxes that were once popular, but giving the potential of great replay from rips of your CDs, as well as a sprinkling of HD tracks when you can get/want them.
Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Briz Vegas
I agree with Simon to a point. Yes I still get CDs and I like the idea of a physical backup, but the hd downloads can be really really nice. The Naim "meet me in London" is a good example. It walks all over the CD version. I've picked up a range of stuff from HD tracks ranging from 60s to 2012 releases. Couple of glitches on the way as quality control at HDtracks is not the same as Naim and Linn in my experience. What HD tracks is building is a resource that is less genre limited. Rock, alternative and pop can all sound better given the HD treatment. CD is most limited by the fact that it is a mass market product. I'm sure they could make CDs sound almost good as the downloads with some care. At this stage you have to research each purchase however. If you like alternative pop you can also get Gotye's Making Mirrors off his site in 24 44.1. He told me in an email response that any future projects will be 24 96 now that he sees there is a market. Some of the stuff starting to emerge uses less compression, such as Paul McCartney and Cat Stevens on HDTracks. That gives it the potential to easily beat even the vinyl releases, assuming you have a well set up digital source, and they takes work and time as I have found over the past 12 months working with my nDAC.
Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Martin_C

Hi David

 

Agree that HDTracks probably has the best selection (if you can pick the good from the not so good - worth doing a quick search against their name as there have been previous threads).

 

The other source I've found "interesting" is the B&W Society of Sound which, for a reasonable subscription, provides access to mainstream classical and "eclectic" other recordings and is curated by Peter Gabriel. This includes Cara Dillon live which is excellent.

 

Martin C

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Iver van de Zand

agree on all the above. Please also visit Linn Records where you can buy high quality music to download

 

Iver

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by adca

So do I. I have made good experience with three further sites: 

theclassicalshop.net: rich choice, not everything available as HD

2L.no: restricted choice, but of high quality

highdeftapetransfers.com: historical recordings, carefully transferred from the original master tapes; I have found some marvellous violin and piano concertos.

adca 

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Davidmanne
Thanks for all your suggestions. I will have a look at them.

Question for Simon. I am based in Australia. How do I get round the US/Canada thiing?

David
Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Geoff P

HD Tracks give you the option to pay using 'PayPal' If you do that they don't care where in the world you live. Just don't bother to enter name and address details when you checkout to pay and hit the PayPal button.

Of course you need a PayPal account.

 

regards

Geoff

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by m0omo0

Maybe less known to you english speakers as they're French, may I suggest you take a look at Qobuz (dot com) ?

 

They offer MP3, 16/44.1 and more and more hi-res up to 24/96. They also offer streaming subscriptions up to 16/44.1.

 

It's only in french for now unfortunately, but there's a search box and that shouldn't be too hard, provided you understand how they call the different formats they offer:

  • Qualité standard: lossy downloads; you can choose the format you like: MP3, OGG, AAC, WMA
  • Vraie qualité CD: lossless downloads at 16/44.1; you can choose between FLAC, ALAC and WMA Lossless
  • Qualité studio masters: high resolution up to 24/96; I think they're in FLAC.

Qobuz affirm that their hi-res downloads come directly from the labels and that they don't reencode them.

 

You can browse the 'Qualité studio masters' easily in addition to search for a particular artist or album. For instance, in the main menu select 'Jazz'. Below, the secondary menu changes and the penultimate entry is 'Qualité studio masters' (notice the last entry as well, 'Discothèque idéale Qobuz', their desert island list). Click on it and you can browse the list of their hi-res jazz items. Same for other genres.

 

HTH

Maurice

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by rich46

tried the french site .tried to buy ,it said cant buy in uk. can you get around it like hd tracks  ta

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by realhifi

Are web links allowed here?  If so, then go here for an almost definitive list of music sites currently selling downloaded music.

 

http://www.audiostream.com/category/music-downloads

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by trickydickie

I haven't downloaded anything from them but Hyperion Records look interesting if you like Classical music.

 

I had a sample CD a few years back which sounded excellent, if the CD is representative of the quality of their material it should be pretty good.

 

Richard

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by m0omo0
Originally Posted by rich46:

tried the french site .tried to buy ,it said cant buy in uk. can you get around it like hd tracks  ta

 

Sorry rich, my bad ! I was afraid of this. I must say I don't know because my country is authorized. I don't know what happens if you use PayPal. Worth a try. I guess subscription-based streaming won't work anyway, whatever trick is used, but it might work for downloads.

 

I'm tempted to rant that this is another example of friendly behaviour from the recording industry, but things might be a little bit more complicated than that I suspect. But still...

 

My country just got Spotify, so things are slowly moving. At the same time Deezer was closed. Go figure.

 

 

PS: Thanks realhifi.

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Dave, Geoff answered your question, so if you have PayPal ( which I personally prefer over credit card for online purchases given the amount of online fraud) you are set to go.
Simon
Posted on: 19 January 2012 by jfritzen

Unless you live in Germany, from where many of the albums at hdtracks.com (from certain labels) now seem to be locked because of IP address. When trying to put anything from these labels into the shopping cart, one gets: 

 

"Based on your territory as determined by your IP address, we are unable to sell you this album due to restrictions imposed on us by the record label."

 

Among these labels are Verve, Deutsche Grammophon, Island Records, Mercury Living Presence and others. Paypal alone does not help here, one obviously would have to use some kind of proxy.

 

KR,

Jochen

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by jfritzen
Originally Posted by m0omo0:
Originally Posted by rich46:

tried the french site .tried to buy ,it said cant buy in uk. can you get around it like hd tracks  ta

 

Sorry rich, my bad ! I was afraid of this. I must say I don't know because my country is authorized. I don't know what happens if you use PayPal. Worth a try. I guess subscription-based streaming won't work anyway, whatever trick is used, but it might work for downloads.

 

I'm tempted to rant that this is another example of friendly behaviour from the recording industry, but things might be a little bit more complicated than that I suspect. But still...

 

Perhaps one could go to a European court because of this, since it essentially says: No, we don't sell to other Europeans. This is hardly acceptable in a common market, especially in the euro zone.

 

IIRC some years ago Volkswagen had to pay a large fine because of obstructing the common market: Volkswagen used to offer their cars in other european countries for much less money than in Germany. However, Germans were not allowed to buy a Volkswagen abroad.

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Aleg
Originally Posted by rich46:

tried the french site .tried to buy ,it said cant buy in uk. can you get around it like hd tracks  ta


You could with some address they will accept  and pay with PayPal

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Michel Werner

I have subscribed to Qobuz. As Maurice wrote they provide HiRes files and even what they call studio master which have been produced directly from the original recording. They are thus truly of higher resolution than CDs.

 

I think that if you can go past the payment problem it is worthwhile.

 

Michel

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Geoff P
Originally Posted by Michel Werner:

I have subscribed to Qobuz. As Maurice wrote they provide HiRes files and even what they call studio master which have been produced directly from the original recording. They are thus truly of higher resolution than CDs.

 

I think that if you can go past the payment problem it is worthwhile.

 

Michel

Well they would not sell to me in the Netherlands either.

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Aleg
Originally Posted by Geoff P:
Originally Posted by Michel Werner:

I have subscribed to Qobuz. As Maurice wrote they provide HiRes files and even what they call studio master which have been produced directly from the original recording. They are thus truly of higher resolution than CDs.

 

I think that if you can go past the payment problem it is worthwhile.

 

Michel

Well they would not sell to me in the Netherlands either.


Geoff

 

As a fellow Dutch inhabitant I have registered.

 

I believe you can only register with a french address. Maybe you have some french friend, colleague or business association whose address you would be allowed to use just for registration purposes and use PayPal for payments?

 

I think it is one of the best shops around for classical music and they offer HiRes editions that aren't available elsewhere.

 

-

aleg

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Michel Werner

Actually, I might help with the French address.

 

Michel

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by m0omo0

Bonjour Michel,

 

Completely OT (sorry David), I see you're using Apertura Tiny speaker cables. Have you compared them with NACA5, Apertura Reference or other cables ? How would you describe them ?

 

Merci

Maurice

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Michel Werner

Bonjour Maurice,

 

No. I haven't played with different cables. But I will have to change them because I will move house and will need longer cables. I was wondering if I wouldn't go for NACA5 since they are less expensive than the Apertura but I do not know who might sell them in Paris.

 

Best,

 

Michel

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Aleg
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Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Michel Werner

Thank you Maurice.

 

They are my dealer but I guess that when I bought the Apertura they were not selling NACA5.

 

Michel