Well, It's quiet in here tonight!

Posted by: George Fredrik on 19 January 2012

Does no one care about the business of a ship captain leaving his charges to their fate after acting like an idiot. After all he was not in a rowing-boat!

 

Does no one care to consider the potential for a long and horrible recesssion in the UK given the Euro situation?

 

Does no one care to consider the ineffectual efforts of our charitable organisations to stave off starvation in East Africa, or the imminent problems in West Africa?

 

Or even the implications of Chinese interests in Poland, having bid for a massive [road building] infrastructure project, and then failing to live up to the commitment? How much may we trust the Chinese when the going gets tough in Europe?

 

Come on folks, the world is in tremendous and terrifying times and all we can discuss is the implicaions of Burndy cables being the wrong way round!

 

Please pull your heads out of the sand and consider some real problems, and I don't mean some poor degenerate anti-theistic warmonger called Hitch!

 

Let's get this section ringing with opinion and thought.

 

Please!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by tonym
I've never tried my Burndy cables the other way round. Should I, or just trust to Naim to have them marked up correctly?
Posted on: 19 January 2012 by George Fredrik

My view has always been, "Read the manual."

 

And spend the time potentially wasted on not doing so on considering bigger issues ...

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by elkman70

This evening we had a knock on the door. It was an ex-criminal who was being rehabiltated into the community. He was trying to sell dusters etc and had a card/ ID explaining what he was doing and the fact that he was a criminal.

 

Is the degrading to the person or is it just me?

Also it made us feel uncomfortable and we have checked twice that we are locked up properly tonight?

 

What on earth do the authorities think they are doing degrading a person like this whilst causing anxiety to others.

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by mista h

A good post George,but you have raised a lot of topics  to handle in one go.

I think a mug of Horlicks is called for,a good nights sleep and maybe a reply tomorrow.

 

Mista H

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by George Fredrik

Dear Elkman,

 

What a questioning post!

 

I sympathise, in that we mostly her try to work for what we have, but it makes "you" and "me" think - a report like this

 

Thanks for post!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Don Atkinson

George,

 

I share your concern that this part of the forum is virtually dead.

 

Half a dozen or so contributors to any meaningful thread at best. 

 

Even Scottish independence remained dormant despite Cammeron's outburst last week.

 

Start a thread of your choice, and I promise to contribute during next week, before I shoot off to Canada for a couple of weeks. (I declined the carbon-offset option when booking my ticket)

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by George Fredrik

Dear Mr H,

 

Not getting at you on a personal level - or anyone else, but we must think outside our own comfort zone.

 

I surely do not need to be the only poster about the uncomfotable!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by George Fredrik

Dear Don,

 

Tomorrow brings the weekend and I usually make one decent potential thread a week.

This week it shall be here!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 19 January 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by elkman70:

This evening we had a knock on the door. It was an ex-criminal who was being rehabiltated into the community. He was trying to sell dusters etc and had a card/ ID explaining what he was doing and the fact that he was a criminal.

 

Is the degrading to the person or is it just me?

Also it made us feel uncomfortable and we have checked twice that we are locked up properly tonight?

 

What on earth do the authorities think they are doing degrading a person like this whilst causing anxiety to others.

elkman,

That is a van scam.

Its been going on for years

Shed loads get dropped off and cover many roads and streets.

Just say no thanks and shut the door.

Even better don't even open the door.

If they come back?

Try and take a photo of them and there so called ID Badge.

They will turn and leg it down the path/ road so fast.

 

Stu 

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by mista h

Good morning George

Just like to reply to the sinking ship disaster,and would make 2 comments.

1/ Lets wait until ALL the facts are known before making judgement,as i for one dont trust newspaper reporters 100%.

2/ whoever was in charge on the bridge that night(forget about el capatino) wants shooting. You dont take a ship that size so near land.

I once came within touching distance of one of these monsters in Oslo.THEY ARE HUGE. We watched supplies being loaded on via a conveyor belt,its a massive operation.

 

Any whizz kids on this forum that can explain how they are going to move this Monster ????

Checked on Wikipedia its 300yds long and 17 floors high.

 

Mista h

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Quad 33

Dear George.

 

Followed your post on 'Hitch' with interest. I think this topic is related. It would appear that as collective we seem to have lost our moral compass (no pun intended). Our politicians have feet of clay, greedy bankers, the situation at St Paul's illustrated the moral vacuum at the heart of the Church of England; religion has been discredited and needs to be replaced by spirituality in my opinion.The Levison enquiry has exposed the media for what it is an industry that will practice the dark arts; for a story at any cost or the damage it will do to family's. I work in the criminal justice system and have witnessed at first had the cost of drink and drugs on our society because vested interests are not willing to tackle the problem. I could go on, but about to leave for work not sure for how much longer, but that's a whole new post.

 

Peace & Love Graham.

 

     

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Fraser Hadden

George,

 

All four of the matters you offered for consideration - and I recognise you merely cited examples for discussion - require inside knowledge. No cause is advanced by blind opinionation.

 

Taking them in order:

 

1. You don't anything about the conduct of the ship's captain beyond what has been promulgated in the media.

 

2. You need to be able to predict the quantitative degree of potential recession before you can extrapolate to its effects on the man in the street. You can't do this.

 

3. The Africa problem opens an unpleasant can of worms around whether the populations of areas that cannot support them agriculturally should be propped up recurrently by other countries.

 

4. 'Chinese interests' are not the same as 'the Chinese'. Again, one cannot safely extrapolate from a single instance to a general opinion.

 

Maybe others recognise this and hence have not started threads on them.

 

I love challenging discourse, intellectual sparring and the opportunity of exposure to opinions I have never before considered, but all opinion has to be factually based. The Forum could probably happily go to war on whether the UK should withdraw from Europe, though, for the battle-lines can be drawn on factual grounds.

 

Fraser

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by rodwsmith
I was speaking to a yacht captain the other day and he said, tellingly, "if any boat's in water it cannot sink in, then it's in the wrong place, and in danger."

As the Costa Concordia hasn't sunk yet, then I think we can cut through the biased media speculation and adequately assume the Captain's at fault (ultimate responsibility even if off duty and/or in the face of equipment failure). But there has been some outrageous reporting for sure. The kind of stuff that would prejudice a trial were it to be in the UK.
Posted on: 20 January 2012 by BigH47

Wasn't an attempt made to beach the vessel? Therefore it might be in more shallow water than when it hit the rock.

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by elkman70:

This evening we had a knock on the door. It was an ex-criminal who was being rehabiltated into the community. He was trying to sell dusters etc and had a card/ ID explaining what he was doing and the fact that he was a criminal.

 

Is the degrading to the person or is it just me?

Also it made us feel uncomfortable and we have checked twice that we are locked up properly tonight?

 

What on earth do the authorities think they are doing degrading a person like this whilst causing anxiety to others.

Are you sure he was an ex-criminal or he just trying to con you in to buying dusters?

People will try every trick in the book to sell things. 

 

The wonderful folk group Chumbawamba's first record says it all 

 

 

By the way do the American Department of Justice now own the Internet?

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Guido Fawkes

> but we must think outside our own comfort zone.

 

Why? 


I never understood why Pleasantville couldn't have stayed in black and white.


By the way do the American Department of Justice now own the Internet?

Posted on: 20 January 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by Gale 401:
Originally Posted by elkman70:

This evening we had a knock on the door. It was an ex-criminal who was being rehabiltated into the community. He was trying to sell dusters etc and had a card/ ID explaining what he was doing and the fact that he was a criminal.

 

Is the degrading to the person or is it just me?

Also it made us feel uncomfortable and we have checked twice that we are locked up properly tonight?

 

What on earth do the authorities think they are doing degrading a person like this whilst causing anxiety to others.

elkman,

That is a van scam.

Its been going on for years

Shed loads get dropped off and cover many roads and streets.

Just say no thanks and shut the door.

Even better don't even open the door.

If they come back?

Try and take a photo of them and there so called ID Badge.

They will turn and leg it down the path/ road so fast.

 

Stu 

+1 Sorry missed this post

 

Posted on: 21 January 2012 by elkman70

We told them to go away.

Posted on: 21 January 2012 by Derry
Originally Posted by rodwsmith:
I was speaking to a yacht captain the other day and he said, tellingly, "if any boat's in water it cannot sink in, then it's in the wrong place, and in danger."


Yet almost every boat docks in ports, or passes through channels, with less than their draught let alone their height or width below them...

Posted on: 21 January 2012 by Gale 401

Sorry but that ship was so far into the wrong place its mental

And for that captain to say he fell into a life boat by accident begs big time.

It will bring back all the old WW2 jokes about Italians going the wrong way.

Not a good thing.imo.

Stu.

Posted on: 01 February 2012 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by George Fredrik:

Dear Don,

 

Tomorrow brings the weekend and I usually make one decent potential thread a week.

This week it shall be here!

 

ATB from George

Two weeks on George.................

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 01 February 2012 by George Fredrik

I am tired Don,

 

I am not sure that apart from you and occasionally one or two here, we really see in front how bloody things are going to get and if the thought crosses the mind in most cases it gets pushed to the back of it ...

 

Removing Sir Fred's Knighthood is nothing compared to the wrotten administration who oversaw the banks and some of whom should face trial for Treason for allowing Capitalists to do what comes naturally.

 

The Famine in East and West Africa is due to over-population in areas that cannot, year on year, support the populatio as it has grown. 70 million people in Egypt and not enough water, especially when the Upper Nile is used to irrigate for agriculture to prop up an unsustainable population higher up ...

 

No I think I'll go and bury my head in the sand as well!

 

Sorry Don, got a bit on my plate in other directions at a more immediate level. Not job fortunately, but just as important. so probably keeeping my head down till it's sorted out.

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 01 February 2012 by Don Atkinson

No problem George, at least you seem to have your priorities right. I hope things work out for you.

 

I was intrigued to read about your Electrostatic adventures in another thread.

 

Take care 

 

Chears

 

Don

Posted on: 01 February 2012 by George Fredrik

Dear Don,

 

I am unbowed, and much stronger than all but my most intimate friends think. They love me for my unsentimental strength, and feel safe to call on that reserve of strength - if very rarely! What is going on is merely a practical issue. Though none-the-less tiresome for it. Probably three or four months of stress and then a new dawn ...

 

The mono stacked ESL 57 thing is fascinating. The best replay I have ever come across. Think of the great enjoyable musical quality that used to come from those old valve [mono] radio-grams, but with modern quality timbres and balances. A completely coherent - totally non-hifi - effect that depends on musical values rather than false recorded [stereo, pinpoint image, depth  - well all that crap basically] artifacts for its success. Only great music works well, because there is nothing to distract from the "purity of essence" -  even more accurately the quintessence - of the music and the performance!

 

And the great thing is that ESLs as stacked would work in a much smaller space than here, which will be the outcome - shy of a minor miracle, but I don't believe in earthly miracles, only spiritual ones!

 

But the replay now has the total immediacy of a 78 acoustic gramophone but with a proper timbre and tonal range! An amazing way to listen!

 

Recently I have got marvelous new recordings of the Bach Solo Violin Sonatas and Partitas and Vivaldi's Four Season [the first ever recording of the Season I ever had] from John Holloway. I never really took him seriously before [in my ignorance], but he is a master of the first quality. A virtuoso for sure, but like Solomon Cutner, or Helmut Walcha, a virtuoso musician who uses his viruosity to make the music full of life rather than full of the musician playing it! It takes a character of particular integrity to place the music before the self like that. The greatest example of this, IMHO, was Otto Klemperer though those working with him might well have been glad to be elsewhere just ocasionally!!

 

Things will shake down before long!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 03 February 2012 by pjl2

Glad the stacked Quads are delivering the goods George.

 

Very sorry to hear of your dilemma - try not to get too disheartened and I hope the outcome will be OK for you.

 

Best,

 

Peter