PINK FLOYD - THE WALL VINYL 2012

Posted by: Thorsten_L on 24 February 2012

So...after an extensive listening session, I have to say some things...

 

1)

 

The 2012 vinyl remaster is very good. Nice clarity, nice punch. In my ears a bit too "nice", too "polished". The instruments are nicely separated and the sound of the drums is fantastic. The soundstage is pretty big. 

 

The vinyl is very quiet and in an excellent condition upon arrival (I dont like the original cardbox-innersleeves, though). 

 

All-in-all a fantastic re-issue, if someone has no other pressings at hand..., because

 

2)

The UK-1st-pressing sounds much more "REAL". More aggressive, more punch, more everything. I couldnt believe my ears how loud it played on the same volume as the 2012-remaster.

The drum-sound kicks the 2012´s ass badly, as do the bass and the guitars...The UK is more in ya face. The soundstage is incredibly bigger than the 2012-remaster.

 

3) 

The Japanese-1st pressing kind of lacks in the area of "power" of the UK, BUT the dynamics on this wonderful pressing is just stunning. Compared to this, the 2012 sounds like "dead".

Also, if you prefer DETAIL over in ya face, the Japanese 1st is the choice no 1.

 

Conclusion.

 

The Uk-1st and the Japanese 1st beat the 2012 by a lot of miles, although the 2012 sounds really really good.

 

My BIGGEST realization:

 

I will NEVER EVER buy a VINYL-RECORD again which is from a digital source.

What brought this realization about?

 

The FRIGHTENING difference in the dynamics of the 2012-remaster and Uk and Japanese 1st...unbelievable.

 

Long live analogue!

 

Posted on: 24 February 2012 by achique99

Interesting coverage Thorsten. Can's wait to see The Wall 2012 vinyl remaster soon in my music collection.

 

Last month, my brother-in-law gave me his UK pressing The Wall LP which he kept in a closet for nearly 30 years old. Thank God, that the double LPs are still good. Thanks to the cardbox-innersleeves (in my case) whereby some LPs were ruined due to the bad plastic sleeves for being kept for so long.

 

Yes, I agreed analogue wins here. I believe the drums and the bass lines are tighter & engaging, which is better than... ermm you know what I mean. Sorry, I can't describe it by words.

 

Cheers!!

Posted on: 24 February 2012 by Iron Cobra

Thorsten,

 

Why buy the remaster, if you own the original?

See "first pressing LP's" thread

Posted on: 24 February 2012 by joerand

Not to detract from your vinyl thread (nice review), but does anyone have an opinion on the 2011 CD remaster of the wall - the mainstream version issued in US?  There are reviews online, but I would more highly value opinions from a Naim-equipped audiophile.

Posted on: 24 February 2012 by Steve J

I will NEVER EVER buy a VINYL-RECORD again which is from a digital source.

What brought this realization about?

 

The FRIGHTENING difference in the dynamics of the 2012-remaster and Uk and Japanese 1st...unbelievable.

 

Long live analogue!

 

+1 Thorsten.

Do you have your Z_plug yet.

Posted on: 24 February 2012 by Thorsten_L

Coming...Peter send it out yesterday!!!!

 

Is it really such a big upgrade...CANT WAIT!!!

 

@Iron Cobra

 

Why not?

24€ is not that much and it is nice to have a very quiet pressing.

Otherwise, you are right.

We all learn, not?

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Iron Cobra

Thorsten

 

Why not?

I believe you answered the question yourself.

Will you play it again, if you have the original?

It may be quite, but at the expense of what?

 

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Thorsten_L

No problem...Iron Cobra.

All is fine.

 

I learn.

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Steve J

Coming...Peter send it out yesterday!!!!

 

Is it really such a big upgrade...CANT WAIT!!!



Thorsten,

 

Yes, you'll love it.

 

Steve

 

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Thorsten_L
Originally Posted by Steve J:

Coming...Peter send it out yesterday!!!!

 

Is it really such a big upgrade...CANT WAIT!!!



Thorsten,

 

Yes, you'll love it.

 

Steve

 

THANK YOU.

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by Gale 401

T,

I have had my copy of The Wall vinyl on pre-order from amazon from day one, many many months ago.£21.60

Just had mail to say its on its way with tracking number.

Given the 27th is the release date for this album.

How did you get yours so early from them?

Stu.

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by Gale 401:

T,

I have had my copy of The Wall vinyl on pre-order from amazon from day one, many many months ago.£21.60

Just had mail to say its on its way with tracking number.

Given the 27th is the release date for this album in the uk and the 28th in Germany.

How did you get yours so early from them?

Stu.

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by FangfossFlyer

Same here Stu.

 

And I remember buying the original on the day it was released!

 

Then bought a digital remaster some years ago....terrible it is and I by far prefer the original. So I will see how this compares.

 

Richard

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by FangfossFlyer:

Same here Stu.

 

And I remember buying the original on the day it was released!

 

Then bought a digital remaster some years ago....terrible it is and I by far prefer the original. So I will see how this compares.

 

Richard

Richard,

I remember the day it came out so well.

I was on crutches for four months.

Had to get a friend from work to pick it up for me in his lunch hour.

Had that copy on order only for a month though and it was under a fiver.

I was stuck in a office working with auditors for weeks as we were being bought out by EMI at the time.

Stu.

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by Thorsten_L

Amazon.de sent it out on February 23th...

 

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by MusicLover:

Amazon.de sent it out on February 23th...

 

T,

Take a real time picture of the album cover and one on your deck and post it.

I will put money on you not doing this.

Nothing has shipped from any amazon until today.

hmv started shipping on Friday just to get the money in but nothing went out until today/tomorrow also.

Stu.


Posted on: 26 February 2012 by count.d

Mine's been on order from Amazon too. They sent it out yesterday when there's no post..good. I hope it's worth the wait and better than the 2011 WYWH, which was garbage.

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by count.d:

Mine's been on order from Amazon too. They sent it out yesterday when there's no post..good. I hope it's worth the wait and better than the 2011 WYWH, which was garbage.

If you didnt like the WYWH?  

It seems bloody odd that you would bother with the Wall?As its much of the same??

Did you try the 2011 DSOTM ?

Have you tried WYWH on the Z plug?

Stu.

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by count.d

The 2011 DSOTM is good. 2011 WYWH is dull, the Z-Plug wouldn't even help it. The Mastersound is the one to get.

 

I buy all pressings I'm interested in and never listen to anyone else's review. If I lose money on a poor pressing, so be it. 

Posted on: 27 February 2012 by count.d

Mine just arrived. Small piece of loose vinyl has scratched one of the lp's. Damn.

 

Sounds sweet and detailed, but I'll have to compare with other pressings.

Posted on: 27 February 2012 by Thorsten_L

Stu,

 

are you kidding?

 

Why would Iie?

 

Sure I can send a picture.

 

Jesus...

 

Since I am still in my school. this should be enough:

 

Amazon:

 

Lieferung voraussichtlich: 24. Februar 2012

Versandt (sent out)

 
Informationen zur Lieferung: (Information on the delivery)
Status:Zugestellt. delivered
i. A.:Pamela Spathelf
Transportdienst:DHL
Paketnummer:017705665580 
Aktueller Status:GONDELSHEIM 
Zugestellt. - 24. Februar 2012 12:41:03
 
"Zugestellt" means "DELIVERED".
 
 
DHL:
 

 
Sendungsnummer 017705665580
 
 
 Produkt / ServiceDHL PAKET
 Status vom Fr, 24.02.12 12:41 Uhr
Die Sendung wurde erfolgreich zugestellt
 
 
 
 
Posted on: 27 February 2012 by Thorsten_L

And what would it prove to put in a picture?

 

It arrived last Friday.

 

I don´t have time machine and man, you can believe it or not.

 

Why would I care?

 

You always "question" my "stuff"...should I also make a picture of the UK-1st-pressing and the Japanese 1st??

 

Take a chill-pill and save your money, dude.

Posted on: 27 February 2012 by Thorsten_L

For Stu:

 

KINDERGARDEN_MODE ON:

 

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See the date: 23.02.2012

 

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The records with the unique poster

 

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The new record, the UK-1st, the Japanese 1st

 

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On the deck I

 

https://picasaweb.google.com/l...9BJk?feat=directlink

 

On the deck II

 

KINDERGARDEN_MODE OFF

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 27 February 2012 by Steve J

I've decided to hold off buying it for now. I have a minty 1st pressing. The quality of the pressing is not that good though with some intermittent surface noise, typical of late '70s pressings on quite thin vinyl. The actual music quality is very good though. 

 

I loved this album when I first bought it on the day it was released but went off it following the film. I can't stand Bob Geldof and it put me off the whole album. That's why it's in such good condition.

 

Generally I have been a little disappointed with the SQ of DSOM and WYWH remasters. I think it's a feature of digital manipulation rather than a deterioration of the master tapes. Good analogue remastering produces better results: just listen to the US RTI pressings of the Doors albums.

 

Steve

Posted on: 27 February 2012 by Thorsten_L
Originally Posted by Steve J:

 

Generally I have been a little disappointed with the SQ of DSOM and WYWH remasters. I think it's a feature of digital manipulation rather than a deterioration of the master tapes. Good analogue remastering produces better results: just listen to the US RTI pressings of the Doors albums.

 

Steve

+1

Posted on: 27 February 2012 by Thorsten_L

So dear Stu,

 

whenever you make me "prove" anything or challenge my posts, you just disappear.

 

That is just uncool.

 

Better to be quiet in the first place, IMHO.