iOS 5.1
Posted by: Klout10 on 16 March 2012
Anybody upgraded their iPad to this newest software release? I'm always a bit hesitating when it comes to these kind of upgrades. Everything works fine at the moment...
Regards,
Michel
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by Dungassin
Well, I let my iPhone 3GS do the "upgrade" yesteday. So far working OK, and unlike the upgrade to 5.0, it didn't bugger up any of my applications. The 5.0 upgrade managed to lose all the apps on my iPhone, and I finished up having to untick and then retick them in iTunes. No big deal, but I use an app called Keeper to have a secure copy of passwords etc, and I still haven't got round to re-entering all the data which the above manoeuvre lost. 
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by Clive B
I upgraded from iOS 5.0 to iOS 5.1 seemlessly and problem-free on my iPhone 4S last weekend.
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by Klout10
Thank you for your replies guys, how long did the upgrade take??
Regards,
Michel
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by Mike Hughes
Over wi-fi, 38 minutes in total. Painless but don't like the new camera button giving you access to all apps!!!
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by Klout10
Upgrading went flawless!
Regards,
Michel
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by TomK
I did the same on my new 4S Mike. Nice not to have to go anywhere near iTunes. Not sure what you mean about the new camera button though. All I get access to is the camera.
Originally Posted by Mike Hughes:
Over wi-fi, 38 minutes in total. Painless but don't like the new camera button giving you access to all apps!!!
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by Mike Hughes
Lock your phone. Swipe upwards on the camera button to open that up. Close it down. Congratulations, you now have full access to your locked phone without actually unlocking it.
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by TomK
When I do that I'm back at the Enter Passcode screen which is what I'd expect.
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by Mike Hughes
Oh. Interesting. Clearly a punishment for those of us wise enough to not have pas codes.
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by TomK
Can't think what else you'd expect if you don't have a passcode set up. In that case it's only a normal power on with a shortcut to the camera.
And I'm not sure why you think it's wise not to have a passcode. For me it's a normal thing to have some security in place but for the average punter it means that the phone is difficult if not impossible to use if it gets nicked.
Sorry if I'm a bit sanctimonious here but computer security is a large part of my job and it can be difficult to leave it in the office. 
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by RaceTripper
Originally Posted by Mike Hughes:
Lock your phone. Swipe upwards on the camera button to open that up. Close it down. Congratulations, you now have full access to your locked phone without actually unlocking it.
When you lock your phone, there is a time period where you can unlock it again before the passcode is required. That is what you are experiencing. Let your lock time out to require a passcode, and you will not get access.
One of the Mac sites reported what you are claiming, and when proved wrong lost credibility. Last I saw they were apologizing profusely to reclaim it. Long story short, there is not a flaw with the camera app providing access to a locked phone (assuming one bothers to set a passcode to begin with)
Posted on: 16 March 2012 by TomK
That's only if you don't set "Require Passcode" = "Immediately".
It's an understandable misunderstanding from a punter, not from a Mac site. That's very embarrassing for them.
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by Mike Hughes
Tom,
Security a part of my job too but sometimes we lose sight of the obvious.
So, yes there is a flaw if you have no pass code but also not having a pass code is critical.
You lose your phone. How do you get it back? If you have a pass code then the answer is that you probably don't. You can use the Find My IPhone app to locate it. You can send messages; tones, and even wipe the phone. All of that is useless if a well meaning person can't get hold of you because the phone they found is locked. How much communication would it take before you realised the need to send a phone number for that person to contact you via the app?
Generally when ppl get the tones or the messages they freak and either dump the thing or leave it with the police. Latter have no clue as to how to access it and rarely make the effort to find a registered owner so you can kiss goodbye iPhone.
Now, alternative scenario and a real story.
Someone I know loses their phone whilst drink. Person also drunk finds it. Thinks initially it is their own but eventually realises it is not.
The loser sends messages and tones but cannot get a response. Wasn't to know at the time this was cos finder gave phone to partner who was working late in a bar.
Next day. Finder unlocks the phone and goes to Contacts. Finds someone who looks like a relative and rings them. Relative lives in Cheltenham. Cheltenham ring North Wales and Wales ring Manchester. Phone returned minus case and with one scratch on the screen a week and a half later. No data lost. No misuse.
None of that possible if you use a pads code. I had one on my phone for 3 years before I realised the utter stupidity of doing so.
Security is not about the tech. It's about the sense and an understanding of human processes. If you like its best illustrated by the fact that a company introduces a complex but secure password system with comprehensive accompanying policies. Punters devise 1 password that meets the complexity test and devise 1 they can use on lots of systems. Home and work. Work system breached because a less than secure site they use at home is breached. Happens all the time.
My iPhone sits at my bedside. It only has 3 other locations. 1 is my coat pocket when my coat is on and the picket is zipped. The other is charging on my work desk in a room I share with 3 people.
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by Mike Hughes
Appreciate not every option I have for safety of phone is available to others but at the end of the day you've bought a £700 Unix computer. The fact it fits in your pocket is no excuse for just leaving it around. However, of you know you're going to do that then at least enable Find My iPhone and leave the pass code off. I've yet to hear of a case where someone decided not to steal one because it was locked.
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by Patu
I'm not happy with the latest iOS. It made my iPhone 4S battery drain faster than 5.0 or 5.0.1. The updates aren't worth the worse battery life. I hope Apple fixes the battery problems for good in the next update.
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by Mike Hughes
I can't see why it would do that in terms of what it's introduced. Interesting.
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by Patu
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by EJS
5.1 did miracles for the battery life of my 4s. It used to run down 50% or more during a single night with all apps closed - now it behaves as it should and I easily get 2+ days (light) use out of one charge, with all services 'on'. 5.1 also allows you to switch off 3G.
EJ
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by TomK
Mike,
The primary reason I have a passcode is that I have confidential information on my iPhone and I want to protect it. Feel free not to protect yours. That's obviously your choice. For me it would be utter stupidity not to do so. In the unlikely event the phone is lost or stolen I know I'm not going to be faced with a load of premium rate call charges but that's certainly not the reason for having the passcode. And I can easily call my number until somebody answers it. And I'm still not clear exactly what you object to regarding the new camera button.
EJS,
Yes the return of the 3GS switch is welcome but it resets back to "On" when it's powered off, which is a minor annoyance for me as I do that every night.
Posted on: 18 March 2012 by lutyens
slightly off topic but, in order to update i have to sync or back up all the data on my ipad or it will be lost it threatens!
When i first set the ipad up none of this process was asked for! I now have photos on the ipad which i need to back up etc. Can someone point me to a helpful idiots guide on how to do all this? The prompt process was not clear to me ....which may simply highlight the idiot bit.
many thanks
