Uniti clock and Daylight Saving Time

Posted by: bartve on 27 March 2012

Nice to have a clock now on my Uniti but it doesn't adjust to Daylight Saving Time (DST). The clock moved an hour forward over here in the Netherlands this weekend.

Could be the timeservers from which the Uniti gets its time information or the Uniti itself.

I tried to adjust the time, but it could only be realised by moving to another timezone (virtually, not physically ;-). Any other solutions?

Posted on: 27 March 2012 by Pev

Same thing here in England with the Superuniti - I'm not impressed with the time servers - my laptop and my Squeezebox updated the time automatically

Posted on: 27 March 2012 by jobseeker

You have to add +1.00 hour to the time in the set up menu for the Superuniti. That's the only way of doing it that I know.

Posted on: 27 March 2012 by pj5

Same thing for the UnitiQute - it's not the time servers that are the problem, it's that there is no daylight saving option on the Uniti.

 

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by jobseeker

I have a couple of things where I have to go into a menu and tick 'daylight saving time' when the clocks change. I guess the Superuniti has the equivalent of that by doing the + 1.00 in the menu. It isn't any more trouble than the other method really.

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by okli
Originally Posted by jobseeker:

I have a couple of things where I have to go into a menu and tick 'daylight saving time' when the clocks change. I guess the Superuniti has the equivalent of that by doing the + 1.00 in the menu. It isn't any more trouble than the other method really.

These are two completely different things - by changing the time zone another peace of software, which relies on the correct time zone settings will stop working correctly. In opposite, changing the daylight saving time does not reflect the other clock settings, apart of the displayed time. Moreover, I'm expecting this to be handled automatically vs. manually, as it is common nowadays even with cheap equipment.

 

I thought this was part of the 3.13 fw upgrade, which I haven't applied yet - are all of you experiencing this problem at the latest fw?

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by pj5

DST has not been implemented in 3.13 on the Qute

 

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by jobseeker

My SU is on 3.13. so no, it isn't implemented on that. I still don't see what the fuss is about though - it's a 30 second operation twice a year. You're simply adding or subtracting an hour (from GMT or BST respectively in the case of the UK) to the clock display.

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by AndyPat

+1 to Jobseeker.

I have a microwave, an oven, a central heating system control, a car, oh and a watch that don't do daylight saving time automatically. Nor for that matter does the phone nor my mobile phone and they both claim they do. And I really can't get worked up about those items either. And don't get me started on computers that do daylight saving but somehow don't actually keep accurate time. 

 

Jobseeker are your thumbs a bit sore? 30 seconds?...........

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by jobseeker

It's because I don't have my glasses when I should

 

You're spot-on about phones and computers too.

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by SRMT

Funny, but I don't use my UQ to tell the time, until I spotted this thread I was unaware that it was an hour behind! Call me old-fashioned, I use my kit as a music player!

Still, 30 secs at most and its sorted.

Now, if only I could get the weather forecast on my microwave....

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by jobseeker
Originally Posted by AndyPat:

+1 to Jobseeker.

I have a microwave, an oven, a central heating system control, a car, oh and a watch that don't do daylight saving time automatically. Nor for that matter does the phone nor my mobile phone and they both claim they do. And I really can't get worked up about those items either. And don't get me started on computers that do daylight saving but somehow don't actually keep accurate time. 

 

Jobseeker are your thumbs a bit sore? 30 seconds?...........

Actually, the central heating timer does automatic DST, but loses about a minute a day !

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by Noogle
Originally Posted by SRMT:

Now, if only I could get the weather forecast on my microwave....


I've heard of a toaster that does weather forecasts by burning the appropriate meteorological symbol onto the bread...

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by Redmires

Chill out.....

 

It will sort itself out in seven months time.

 

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by pcstockton
Originally Posted by okli:

I'm expecting this to be handled automatically vs. manually, as it is common nowadays even with cheap equipment.

How the hell is Naim supposed to know who observes DST and who doesn't on a global scale?  Come on.  Be real.

Posted on: 28 March 2012 by Guido Fawkes
On my Mac, it just works. The clock just corrected itself as if by magic - I suppose Apple users just get used to such things. We expect Naim to follow suit - NTP is wonderful
Posted on: 28 March 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Mind you would not be easier if the world just adopted Greenwich Mean Time .. then we'd all use the same time and the UQ would be right.
Posted on: 28 March 2012 by pcstockton
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:
On my Mac, it just works. The clock just corrected itself as if by magic - I suppose Apple users just get used to such things. We expect Naim to follow suit - NTP is wonderful

Right... same goes for my 3 PCs, 2 iPhones, 2 iPads, cable box, etc....

 

It isn't magic.  It is called "being connected to the internet"

 

Posted on: 29 March 2012 by roo
It's not quite as easy as being connected to the internet. I remember Apple getting it wrong on the iPhone a few iOS releases ago so they aren't perfect. Some areas change the date on which the clocks change and also opt in and out of daylight saving adjustments (e.g. Western Australia had a trial between dec 2006 and 2009) so it is not that straightforward. Thankfully my NDX doesn't show the date or time. I'm more bothered about being on unlucky software release 3.13.
Posted on: 08 April 2012 by Herve

There are nice people on the internet maintaining a time zone database (tz) which is freely available online and together with universal time obtained from a suitable NTP server can be used to translate said universal time into the appropriate local time, depending on the chosen time zone... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol for reference... This is the way most computers do not need twice yearly resets. A bit tougher for non-connected devices like microwave ovens (where does one get database updates, as the local choices evolve regularly, as mentioned previously). Although micro waves will probably be connected at some point soon (if not already, since some fridges are)!

 

Just seems a tad rubbish to me to implemented NTP without the appropriate time zone bit as well...