Before the upgrade, I had been happily streaming, wirelessly, ripped CDs from a NAS. Over a three-month period, the Qute worked flawlessly, with two or three trivial incidents of a "skip" when the buffer emptied.
After the upgrade, the Qute behaves differently in a number of ways, all bad except for sonic quality. It has trouble staying connected to the network. I tried putting an airport express a few feet away. The Qute still drops the network: it does not just pause and resume. Rather, I must navigate back to my music. Sometimes when this happens, the iPad/Phone app also cannot find the Qute and has to be reconnected. This is massively frustrating.
My dealer tried "reinstalling the firmware" but this has not helped at all.
Equally puzzling is this: the behavior of the Qute can change quite a bit after it has been powered off for an interval.
I built a server on my Mac. Since this did not affect the behavior of the Qute, I conclude there is no fault in the NAS running on a separate physical device. The proximity of the Airport Express would seem to rule out signal strength.
There were other, less significant behavior changes. E.g., sometimes when I navigate to a WAV file, the Qute will say that it is not a recognized file type. If I try again, it plays. This never used to happen.
In any case, there are no other signs that my network is the problem. Rather, all was wonderful until I got my Qute "upgraded."
Any thoughts about how to approach and resolve this would be welcome. I am not a network engineer, just a fellow who loves music in my home.
Posted on: 03 April 2012 by PG
I have had some similar experiences and have put it down to network issues. Certainly over the weekend it was bad, but last night was much better.
I am going to try moving the various wifi elements around to see if this makes a differences.
Sorry cannot think of much more at this time.
Posted on: 04 April 2012 by SteveG
The board was upgraded as well. Precisely which board I could not tell you. The n-Stream app identifies the device as Qute-496D.
I have an obvious workaround. I bought an Apple Airport Express, then connected the Qute to the Express with a cable. The problem is gone, and the cause is isolated to the Qute, as well.
Although wireless is perhaps a weak reed on which to rest, because most wireless networks are subject to interference and intermittent belches, I am disappointed in a piece of Naim gear. I never imagined I would have to say that. Worse, the original Qute's wireless performance had me smiling.
Posted on: 04 April 2012 by SteveG
In my original set up, I too experienced pauses with 24/192. But most of my music is ripped CDs, and I was not troubled by this: I have hard drives and could use the USB. Nor was I troubled by the rare pause streaming a CD, since the Qute "recovered" by itself.
It is the "no network" that drove me nuts. The music stopped and I had to and reconnect manually to the network, reinitialize UPnP, and so on.
I too moved routers, tweaked, and fretted for hours. The "solution" is to by-pass the QUTE wireless system, and wire the QUTE directly from a "slave" router to the ethernet jack on the QUTE.
For the record: I tried setting the QUTE to connect to the primary router with a fixed IP. This made no difference.
I think that there is a fault in the chipset that handles the RF, and Naim should be considering whether to recall this generation of boards.
Posted on: 17 November 2012 by Anthony H
Hi,
Just browsing the forum for feedback on the '192' upgrade. Took mine to my local dealer who were able to do the mod on site, however they hit similar trouble in that the UQ would not connect to a network. (Not sure whether this was wired, wireless or both). Bottom line they sent it back to Naim last week. Prior to this, the connectivity was perfect in both modes, so the above posts make me a little nervous. However surely you have taken up the issue with Naim given the dramatic change in performance following upgrade?
Posted on: 19 November 2012 by SteveG
Anthony,
No, I did not take this up with Naim.
In my April 4 post I described what I did. It worked, it took very little of my time, and I did not have to go through lots of diagnostic palaver (Sure it's not your router?) with Naim or my dealer. Yes, I do feel Naim let me down; on the other hand, I listen to music to be able to set aside life's aggravations! My UQ brings me lovely sounds, and I have not looked back.
Posted on: 22 November 2012 by pj5
After changing my router 3 times (BT HomeHub, Netgear, Apple Airport Extreme) I did try and take it up with Naim but they wouldn't consider it a problem (despite me having router logs) unless it was verified by my Dealer (which is a 400 mile round trip from where the unit is - and that Salisbury is only 30 mins away!), and bearing in mind that the drop outs happen infrequently I decided to directly to wire ethernet to the unit. It being ok on ethernet.
Despite no documentation to the fact, I also believe that the upgrades have contained changes to the way wireless is being handled. This is because after each upgrade I re-enabled wireless for a week to see if it still dropped out and the behaviour has changed after each upgrade (and the router logs showed a different pattern each time), with 3.17 it seems much more stable, however I did get a whole system lockup that needed a re-power before I switched back to ethernet. And Yes I most definately feel let down by Naim.
It will be interesting to find out what the problem was when you get yours back.
Posted on: 11 December 2012 by Anthony H
Hello, PJ5,
Well got my UQ back on Tuesday, but the actual dealer person was not present so I've had no feedback passed back from Naim. I will try and find out what the issue was. I can report, though, that it plays 192khz FLACs now, it has a very small 192 sticker on the rear panel and the firmware was updated to 3.17. I've tested connectivity, both wired and wireless, and have left it on wireless for now and absolutely no issues.
One other point is that my Dealer - Moorgate Acoustics, Sheffield, undertook the original board upgrade and charged accordingly (£300). This is obviously less than the 'back to base' cost (£370 ish?). Unless I get a bill (!) they have not charged me any shipping costs. So I've got the 192 upgrade and the firmware upgrade with evrything looking good. So hats off to Moorgate!
Will be trying some Neat Iotas in January that everyones raving about...in terms of size and alleged performance they could well be ideal.
Posted on: 11 December 2012 by Moobs79
Hi there
I had the same issue of wireless drop off and excessive buffering whether on iradio or upnp. I was unbelievably annoyed for about 2 months but solved it with a TP-link power line adaptor. It cost about £25 on play.com.
I also suffered from the n-stream suddenly not finding the Qute. Still haven't solved that one completely. At the moment I just close the app and turn flight mode on and off and it reconnects straight away.
Hope that helps.