ND5XS & Nait5i

Posted by: gazla on 14 April 2012

Considering options for moving to a streaming set up ... Budget dictates that it's probably only a source upgrade at the moment; the likes of the SU is out of question at the moment. Obviously a demo is necessary but I was just wondering if anyone else has or is running the ND5XS on a Nait5i ... I would hope for a big step up from my current CD5i ... 

 

Also is anyone feeding other sources (Sky TV, Blu-ray player) ... does the DAC do good things?

 

I intend to set up a Vortexbox server on a Nettop box.

Posted on: 14 April 2012 by IanG
I demoed my ND5XS with a Nait 5i-2 to see if it was better that my CD5i-2 and the answer was a resounding yes. Things got even better (clairty, bass weight, separation etc) when I changed the Nait for a XS series pre/power amp so that is what I opted for. If budget dictates changing source first then the answer is yes, the Nait will hold its own and the ND5XS will better the CD5i-2.
Posted on: 15 April 2012 by gazla
Cheers Ian. I can see the temptation to do the amp as well is going to be difficult to resist ... Have you tried its DAC with any other sources?
Posted on: 15 April 2012 by IanG

No, I'm afraid not.

Posted on: 17 April 2012 by Thorsten_L

I gave away my CD5i-2 for some money and the ND5XS.

 

You will LOVE the upgrade.

 

In MY system, MY room and with MY speakers, the upgrade was MASSIVE.

 

Running-in now the ND5XS and I have to say it is (nearly) as fine as the nDAC I owned.

 

Perfect audio-heaven with ethernet oder USB-stick.

 

Posted on: 17 April 2012 by Felty99

I'm running an ND5XS into Nait XS and it really is a nice combination. Comparing the ND5 acting as a DAC to my previous Rega DAC, the Naim makes the music flow more naturally to my ears and is tighter in the low frequencies. The Rega now seems a little slow by comparison.

 

I use the digital inputs being fed by a SkyHD box, CA 840C CD player & Denon 3800 Blu-ray player; all three sound impressive through the ND5.

Posted on: 18 April 2012 by gazla

Sounds like I need to that demo asap! I've ordered a Nettop box so will hopefully have a Vortexbox server set up in progress over the next few days.

 

I'm keen to use just the ND5 as the hub for both music and AV duties so glad to here that the DAC does good things.

 

Just need to ignore the temptation to listen to ND5 with the Nait XS ... 

Posted on: 18 April 2012 by spacehopper
Hi Gazla I run the ND5 into a Nait 5i-2 and couldn't be more impressed. It's the most enjoyable music playback I've owned having moved up through several dacs inc Rega DAC. Of course it's a very subjective thing, tastes vary, but I was very keen to partner the Nait XS with my ND5 to enable automation and have the matching fascia etc. I bought a pre loved unit but ended up returning to the dealer and slotting my 5i-2 back in. To my ears the addictive foot tapping sound was back again, and I was relieved! So if I can offer a suggestion as a newbie to the forum and Naim come to that, grab the ND5 and have a lot of fun and don't worry about amps for now. Enjoy your demo and let us know what you think!!! Best regards
Posted on: 18 April 2012 by olliememate

Hi Gazla, I am also a newbie to Naim and have moved from other DACs including CA Dac Magic and Beresford... Today I am running the ND5 into the 5i-2. The step up from something like Dac Magic is huge. I am very happy with my system, it has got all the dynamics and foot tapping I could possibly ask for. Just ignore the Nait XS for the time being and be happy with the ND5 and 5i my advice. If you ever feel like upgrading later you have many options  Have fun and enjoy the music.

Posted on: 18 April 2012 by Thorsten_L

So, after an expensive listening session, I can clearly say that the ND5XS is miles ahead of the CD5i-2 and better than my old CD5XS too.

 

I then switched to the same tracks on vinyl...

 

Vinyl is still source No. 1..., but the ND5Xs is a beautiful machine...

Posted on: 18 April 2012 by Ade
Hi, I've just recently upgraded my 7 year old cd5 with hicap to a nd5xs and the sound is another level up again - best buy I've ever made and I've decluttered my living room from all those CDs.... And no more annoying puck problems
Posted on: 18 April 2012 by gazla

Looking [sounding] like it'll be easy choice  

 

Vortexbox (VB)  up and running ... and ripping (although nothing to play the rips on at the moment). Although wondering if it was the right install having found advice suggesting the use of dbPoweramp and other Windows based tools for ripping and tagging on the VB for forum ...

 

Having never had vinyl, I have no idea how it might be so good ... maybe one day.   

 

Cheers

Posted on: 18 April 2012 by Thorsten_L
Originally Posted by gazla:

 

Having never had vinyl, I have no idea how it might be so good ... maybe one day.   

 

Cheers

Because of the warm, deep and lively sound of a good TT.

 

Posted on: 19 April 2012 by Thorsten_L

Honestly, when I bought the ND5XS, I had the chance to hear the NDX AND the ND5XS, both without a PSU.

 

I couldn´t hear a difference in sound that justified the nearly 2000€ price-difference.

 

The NDX had the "better" soundstage" and maybe a little bit more bottom end, but the ND5XS was in my ears "more musical" and more "food-tapping" and more "sitting-there-with-a-smile".

 

Posted on: 19 April 2012 by gazla

This is good to know ...

 

I've been pondering a number of Naim based options to move to a streaming based solution, that also can also for the a single music/av hub (I'm more than happy having moved to 2.0 from 5.1 for AV, and would rather invest in single higher quality solution). Bearing in mind there is a budget the ND5XS is really the main candidate (I'd prefer more digital inputs as on the SU, but there are ways round this).

 

I just need to keep reminding myself that the Nait5i will be good enough ... When I initially bought the my Naim kit, I only visited my local dealer with the expectation (and budget!) to purchase a new CD player from either the Rega or Cyrus ... I ended up with a CD5i AND the Nait5i! 

Posted on: 06 May 2012 by gazla

I did the demo and have placed an order ... 

 

Of course, it took only minutes for temptation to get the the better of me when booking up the session and ended up listening kit above my initial budget. 

 

I listened to 3 options:

 

ND5 XS + Nait5i

SuperUniti

ND5 XS + Nait XS

 

All with my own Vortexbox music server and speakers (Totem Dreamcatchers). The latter to try and get closer to the sound I might achieve at home. 

 

Most of the time was spent on the first two options, the Nait XS was more a 'food for thought' and to balance out what I heard with the other two.

 

To be honest, although out my original budget, I had been expecting to be blown away by the SuperUniti but in short I wasn't. For me the ND5 with the Nait5i sounded 'better' - bigger sound stage, more detail. The SuperUniti was perhaps more controlled - refined(?) - but just didn't do it for me. The Nait XS covered the good points of the others ... So in the future this will warrant a further listen.

 

I should be picking up the ND5 XS in a week or two. 

 

What the session did emphasis to me was that the Totem's are indeed great little speakers (where does that bass come from?!) but with faster more 'complex' music, certainly with the Nait5i, they get a little muddled ... so it maybe here I invest next, before the amp.

 

Posted on: 06 May 2012 by Thorsten_L

Congratulations!!!

 

Great choice.

 

The ND5XS is awesome.

Posted on: 06 May 2012 by totemphile

Make sure you give your DCs a fair run on that Nait XS before parting with them! You might find the XS is all you were looking for...