NDX and Logitech Harmony

I had the same issues with mine. IIRC I found a uniti in the database and used that as the starting point for setting the remote for NDX activities. 

Its a bit of a faff but you can get around most control issues with a bit of thought and some nifty programming, although some of the ways that Logitech handle the macro builds can be rather un-intuitive 

James

I got it working OK.  Just had a quick check.  If you enter "ND" as the name of the device it seems to recognise it, but god knows WHAT it is recognising.  All the Linn streamers seem to be on the database (just checked because I was curious)

Dungassin,

You can set up specific actions when you leave and enter activities.

For example, you can have it mute the sub when you leave "TV/DVD" and come back on when you re-enter.  Easy as pie.

If properly set-up you should NEVER need to go into "Devices"

-Patrick

Thanks.  I didn't know that, though I suppose I should have realised that I could set up a macro to do it.  I'll give some thought to altering it later on today. 

Or use "Additional Buttons" and put Mute on every screen (the main touchscreen within an activity).

I use this a bunch with my "Naim" Activity.  On my main screen I have "TV", and "PC".  I use these buttons to toggle the display between TV and my PC Screen while listening to music.  If I want to watch some baseball but keep the music rolling for example.

-Patrick

That's what I'd already done before starting this thread.

Incidentally, I've been thinking about the suggestion you originally made of setting up the submute action as part of a macro, and I'm not sure how it would work, as the sub mute button is a toggle, therefore I would expect that if I added it to an activity to switch on/off  then it would just toggle to the other setting.  For example, if I were using the "Game" activity which needs sub unmuted then switched to another activity such as "Bluray" which also has the sub unmuted, then any macro would just switch it to muted in that case.  Think I'll just leave it the way I have it already set - after all, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 

It can handle toggles easily.  Especially mute with typically (always) has only one button on the remote.

It is exactly how I mute and unmute my 102 pre when coming into and leaving my Naim activity.

Agree - it's easily done and definitely worth doing. I do the same thing to mute/unmute my AV amp automatically when entering or leaving the activities where my AV sources are routed directly through my SN for audio, but I still need to use the AV amp to switch the video to my screen.

If you run through the set-up on the activity then it appears at the end, it's the screen called something like 'actions when you enter or leave this activity'

Just let me get this straight in my own mind :

I need to setup the NDX activity so that it mutes the nSub on starting and unmutes it on leaving?

So, what happens if I use the NDX activity, manually unmute the sub for some track which REALLY needs the extra oomph, then exit?  Surely the state on exit will be such the sub will already be set to off when I go into the next activity?

All very confusing ... especially when small fingers (grandchildren) come in and play with remotes when I'm not looking.

Just had an epiphany.  I've changed the nSub input setting to P1, which is the one used for DVD/BluRay (was previously set to P2, the line input via the HiCap) on the NDX activity so that it won't work!  I've left all the activities with one of the additional buttons set to act as "mute sub" for those occasions when it has been altered during use.  Oh ... and I also added to NDX activity buttons for nSub display, and nSub inputs P1 and P2, just so I can switch on the nSub with the 282/HiCap for the rare occasions when I actually want it.

Yep - that's the weakness with this remote.  There is no feedback so it always assumes that the state of an input etc doesn't change during an activity which can lead to the wrong setting if it's on a toggle type command. I always try and set the remote to use actual commands rather than toggle states if possible.

Yup.  That's why I've done why I've gone for the option of simply setting the nSub to a mode that's inactive during the NDX activity.

Yes, the remote is not smart enough to know that you did something manually.  Easy solution though...  Dont do it.  Use the remote to "manually" mute or unmute and it will know the state of muting.

If your kid does manually unmute at the nSub, that is what the "Help" button is for.  It will change it back for you.  Easy.

It doesn't matter if it is a toggle or not and it is not a weakness of the remote.  NO remotes have any clue that you walked over and manually changed the input on your preamp to Phono.  How could it?

Dont manually do anything.  Use that snazzy "additional buttons" you set up to easily do things that might be buried in Device settings.  Use that to unmute your sub.  Then when you leave that activity it wont do anything, unless you go to another activity that also doesn't use the sub.

good luck,

patrick

Thanks for the replies.  I have, as I said, set up the Harmony so that the NDX activity sets the nSub to an input that is inactive when used with the NDX/282 etc, and have added nSub input buttons to that activity, as well as nSub mute buttons to all my other activities.  Now will do everything that I want.

Still don't know what the Harmony website is presenting as Naim ND, though - and have no intention of loading it up to find out, having already gone to the trouble of doing it manually!  I assume that Naim haven't used the same IR instruction set for the NDX and ND5XS?

Why?  It is probably the same remote.

Just got mental visions of NDX and ND5XS in a demo room, and the remote not knowing which one to work, or even someone in a house with both in different rooms and unfortunately placed reflective surfaces.  Sorry, just too many years (pre-retirement) spent figuring out how to trying to avoid potentially lethal problems at work.  

To be honest, the only time I have ever used my NDX remote was to pause playback (prior to programming the Harmony), and in initial setup of the NDX.  Everything is else has been done from the iPad or iPhone