Another sick ******* reaches a new low,words fail me.

Words fail me too. I adore animals, especially cats. Frankly if I met him, well I would do something quite illegal.

I do hope they find him, and I think his actions, especially by posting it on the internet, will leave him open to the kind of retribution that such exposure often gets. Serve him right if it does.

What on Earth is wrong with some people?
Is he really a Human Being?

In ancient Egypt murdering a cat was a crime that could bring about the death penalty.
A very good law that should be brought back again!

Debs

Some one should borrow Rickys cricket bat, it's doing nothing at the moment.

What a low life..!!

With his face up on the Internet like that, it's only a matter of time.

I suspect nothing too much will happen to him, well from a legal view point anyway.

A young teen, probably a first time offender, soft laws that will possibly see him get off with a slap on the wrist.

Would not surprise me if he has been involved in other sadistic acts of cruelty involving animals.

It's possible he is only a few steps away from taking human life. If not soon then perhaps later on in life.

When caught he should be made to and the law probably will make him undertake some type of

Psychological / Psychiatric treatment.

This type of behaviour is bizzare.

Lights on... but nobody is home.

People who demonstrate this kind of inability to understand empathy and care for animals are showing the signs that can lead to violence against humans. Such was the case with a number of serial killers.

I am sure that not all who harm animals like this develop homicidal tendencies against humans, but since it is where such people start, if they find him, I suspect he will receive more than just a slap on the wrist.

People also tend to react strongly against such actions, especially when they are made so public as this scum has.

The RSPCA, or PETA will take whatever action they can.

I wonder if YouTube have privacy agreements that stops them giving the law enforcement authorities the IP address which the video was uploaded from?

As soon as read the first reply I didn't even look at the story. I've no desire to depress myself even more by actually finding out what this scum has actually done. I too would not know how to restrain myself if I found someone tormenting any animal, let alone a cat. Cats mean a lot to me and anything done to the perpetrator wouldn't be enough for me.

My day is now soiled.

steve

OK so the act was no way commendable - but the incredible thing is the "Princess Di" reaction to it on the forum.

Get a few facts straight
cats breed in vast quantities, far out running the demand for people keen to look after a cat.

The most common way of dealing with surplus kittens is to put them in a sack and then drown them. Suffocating them as described is little or no different. Similar to what happens to male chicks in egg farms.

The best thing you can do for a kitten if you cannot look after it yourself is to get it neutered and then pass it on to a responsible home - other wise get it put down.

Am a cat hater - no - I serve two cats that have spent their lives training me so that I can make their pampered lives very comfortable.

I would have a lot more sympathy for cat owners if they put a big bell around the necks of their pets. I find it sickening every time I see one with a wild garden bird that they've caught for fun.

Birds do not hear the bell and also the bell is not in the bird;s behavior pattern as a warning sound.

Oh dear. I'm no cat lover but I always view these things with a certain cynical eye.

Let's assume the video is not faked (a very BIG assumption on past form) then I find myself posing the question as to

a) why would any sane human being wishing to retain credibility be reading The Scum?

b) if you're not a Scum reader then why search the net for stuff like thar? Why use The Scum version when you find it?

c) it is a shame thar people on here could not go so worked up about some of the things this and previous governments are visiting upon us and others right now. Funnily enough mass unemployment; poor housing; poverty; family breakdown; a privatised education system. None of those things could possibly lead to the kind of behaviour allegedly in that video, could they?

Mike

d)

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Originally posted by Derek Wright:
Birds do not hear the bell and also the bell is not in the bird;s behavior pattern as a warning sound.

OK train them to blow a vuvuzuela then. Or something.

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Originally posted by Derek Wright:
Birds do not hear the bell and also the bell is not in the bird;s behavior pattern as a warning sound.

OK train them to blow a vuvuzuela then. Or something.

Napster ... Cats are intelligent creatures. You suggest 'Or something' as an alternative to blowing blowing the vuvuzela.

I'm with you Steve (Paper Plane). No punishment would be sufficient for someone who is capable of such horrendous cruelty to any living creature.

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Originally posted by Doctor Jazz:

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Originally posted by nap-ster:

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Originally posted by Derek Wright:
Birds do not hear the bell and also the bell is not in the bird;s behavior pattern as a warning sound.

OK train them to blow a vuvuzuela then. Or something.

Napster ... Cats are intelligent creatures. You suggest 'Or something' as an alternative to blowing blowing the vuvuzela.

May I make a suggestion that might encompass 'or something'? They train the cat to stick the vuvzela right up your arse, thus preventing you from sitting at your computer to make such an insensitive response.

Firstly, I'm totally against animal cruelty and fully agree: All animals are intelligent.

However, when a cat brings home a "little present" or when you're kids are out playing on the lawn and it's covered in cat droppings, you aren't allowed to complain. If a dog did it then that's considered wrong though.
I'm very much a fan of wildlife and am a member of the RSPB. However, surely all pet owners have a responsibility?

Interesting article here

As a cat lover I'm very saddened by this story.However as a young chap many years ago,we lived in the country ,before moving to the city when I was 12.In the country it was was common practice ( possibly even normal) to throw a bag (weighed down with a brick) of unwanted kittens into the river.Even cat lovers did this or usually found someone to do it for them, if they could'nt find homes for the kittens.Thankfully for the most part those days are gone for most people.

I grew up on a farm, and can back-up what "full ahead" says. It was entirely normal [and unquestioned] in rural areas, if with hindsight hardly nice, to drown kittens.

Fortunately most of us become more civilised and kind as we age.

Cruelty to animals is always to be condemned.

ATB from George

As much as Ziggy has tried to destroy the local bird population, I suspect all she does is remove the weak and stupid individuals from the food chain. Just as fox hunting never succeeded in removing foxes as a species from the countryside, our cats will have nowhere near as great effect as unsympathetic gardens.

Tony

My first thought when I read a story like this is that the video is probably a fake.

The fact that this story was published in The Sun is no guarantee of its truth. I doubt they have checked their facts & this is exactly the kind of bullshit they like to publish to wind up self righteous idiots who are looking for any opportunity to get angry about something they can do nothing about. Frankly life's too short.

Of course, even faking a video like this is a pretty sick deed, but it's not that far removed the kind of stupid stunt teenagers who listen to too much emo might pull, and hardly reason for a public lynching.

IF the video (wherever the hell it is!) is genuine, then of course it was a sick deed, and I hope the perpretator is found and dealt with by the law,

On a lighter (?) note this video *is* genuine:

Yes in the past excess kittens were disposed of often by drowning, but I think a lot of you are missing the point of this.

The article, no matter where it came from, even rubbish like The Sun, is about a piece of scum who was almost certainly not getting rid of surplus kittens, but probably got them from a pet shop so that he could exercise his perversion of killing creatures for self glorification, and then publicising it on the internet.

These kittens could well have become part of a family where they were loved and gave a great deal of joy, instead they ended their lives unpleasantly to no end other than fulfilling the fantasies of this piece of human detritus.

I have fostered cats in the past, and there is a demand for them, especially kittens. Sadly there are often many pets, particularly dogs who are destroyed by those like the RSPCA as they are bought by people who do realise the demands of having a pet in the house can involve. Those animals deserve a better end than this, and the RSPCA do their best to do so.

The world is not perfect, and you have to accept that, but if someone crosses the line of acceptability like this then they deserve punishment, and not just a blasé 'shit happens' attitude.

The story has been posted on news sites other than The Sun.

Another sad story about a kitten killer, jailed for 16 weeks, from the BBC, so retribution is very likely if they find this scum too.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8369499.stm

I confess I have no great love for cats. My next door neighbour is one of those people who thinks his cat has the perfect right to shit wherever it feels like shitting, including my drive, lawn, or wherever my kids played. "That's cats. You can't control them." he used to say. It was surprising how controllable it suddenly became when I told him I'd bought an air gun and it would get a pellet up its arse next time I saw it in my garden.

However this is no way to treat an animal. Some people get kicks from this and I find that very disturbing. What or who's going to be the next target?

I watched in horror as two large adult cats fought over a tiny kitten - they were fighting to see which one got to eat it - they were actually playing tug of war with the kitten. There was nothing we could do as the cats were on a neighbours roof. Eventually the kitten fell from the roof into our lot and we were able to rescue it - it had multiple bit marks. According to our neighbour one of the cats had entered their house and stolen the kitten while the other cat merely waited outside. The amazing thing was one of the cats was not a ferral cat it was a domestic pet!

I did some googling this morning and can confirm that, sadly, there is a video out there which, contrary to my suspicions, appears genuine.

If true all he did was kill a oouple of kittens - Pol Pot he ain't.

So anything less than genocide isn't worth commenting on?

Well, it's a web forum Tom. People can always find something to comment on but, as has been observed already, it comes from the Sun, who are rather too fond of highlighting sick individuals as a distraction to what is actually going on politically and economically. There's also one post suggesting it's true but no evidence as to why and so on.

It is but one step away from blaming the dark skinned bloke next door for all your ills rather than having some wider context and whilst, if it is true, then it is absolutely to be condemned, I personally think there is a wider context to these things and find it especially worrying in these times that we keep falling for the same old tricks. Cat in a bin versus extraordinary rendition. Suffocated cats versus kettling. All are to be confronted but we lose the energy on the latter if we're just equally angry on everything.

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Cat in a bin versus extraordinary rendition. Suffocated cats versus kettling.

Amen to that.

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So anything less than genocide isn't worth commenting on?

How about a sense of proportion?