Another sick ******* reaches a new low,words fail me.
Posted by: Blueknowz on 25 December 2010
Posted on: 28 December 2010 by Stephen Tate
Indeed, anyone caught fishing should be shot on the spot, no questions asked!
Posted on: 28 December 2010 by JamieL_v2
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Originally posted by Derry:
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Originally posted by TomK:
So anything less than genocide isn't worth commenting on?
How about a sense of proportion?
I think that people did do a 'little bit of complaining' when Pol Pot was having his fun, and if you want a 'it doesn't bother me' view extending to that, you could say 'all he did was kill people who lived at the other side of the world, so who cares?'
What is sad is that neither Pol Pot's victims, or animals have a voice that they can raise to try and help themselves. Some of us speak up for oppressed people, and some for animals treated cruelly, and some for both.
Posted on: 28 December 2010 by TomK
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Originally posted by Derry:
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Originally posted by TomK:
So anything less than genocide isn't worth commenting on?
How about a sense of proportion?
I'm quite capable of distinguishing between the activities of Pol Pot and this person thank you. I also understand that animal populations need to be controlled, but I'm disturbed by people who think it's entertaining to do it for fun and stick it on Youtube. Whatever will they get up to next?
There's plenty of evidence to show that people who abuse animals in this manner often go on to do much worse. It's no laughing matter.
Posted on: 29 December 2010 by GreenAlex
I assume it is genuine and even if it was not, he should be punished for making the video as it will encourage other idiots like him to actually try it.
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Originally posted by JamieL_v2:
Another sad story about a kitten killer, jailed for 16 weeks, from the BBC, so retribution is very likely if they find this scum too.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8369499.stm
Retribution? To be honest, 16 weeks is kind of a joke.
Now some will say "it's only animals", but where do we draw the line and why?
Would it be 17 weeks if it were a puppy rather than a kitten? 18 weeks if it were a full grown dog?
Why is animal cruelty always just a joke in the eyes of the law?
Honestly, if I had my way, I would stick his head in a bag and suck out the air and let him pass out over and over again and have him suffer repeatedly the way those poor animals suffered.
I do not feel that I would have the right to kill him, but torture, well, I would be OK with that and feel no remorse about it.
Posted on: 29 December 2010 by Derry
The voice of reason...
Posted on: 30 December 2010 by GreenAlex
The voice of consequence or every action has a reaction
The only thing people like that understand. If reason were involved we would all be spared such fools in the first place
Posted on: 30 December 2010 by David Scott
GreenAlex,
I know you're only talking trash on the internet to make yourself feel big and clever, but if what you were saying were actually true you would be a very sick man
Posted on: 30 December 2010 by GreenAlex
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Originally posted by David Scott?:
but if what you were saying were actually true you would be a very sick man
Quite possibly true
Thing is, it's hard to say what one would do if you knew there was no punishment for you involved. Sometimes interesting to think about.
Imagine what you would like to do to someone who does something "unthinkable" to someone you love. If you could do whatever you wanted to him without fear of retribution, punishment or judgement by others.
I am pretty sure, almost everybody here would have a certain breaking point at which he would draw the line and leave behind what makes him human and start violent vengeance.
Luckily, we are all bound by law and what sets us apart from such people as the one in the first post, is that we follow both legal and moral laws.
Still, in a way I feel those people should be punished by suffering in a similar way to their victims. This sounds cruel and it sounds unreasonable to some, but if we are honest with ourselves, would it not in a way be justice? Twisted and sick justice, but nevertheless seem like the right punishment?
It only really sounds wrong, because we grasp the concept of right and wrong whereas those scum do not and in a way, the only thing they would understand is feeling what their victims felt.
I'm sure many a rape-victim or victim of another horrible crime would agree.
Posted on: 30 December 2010 by Mike Dudley
Especially with those big, appealing eyes and little meeowing noises they make when playing amusingly with balls of string and the like, eh? Would you feel as much anguish about a schoolkid squashing a snail? Why not?
Posted on: 30 December 2010 by GreenAlex
Well, if the kid was old enough to understand what it was doing and was in fact doing it on purpose, then it would deserve a punishment.
Of course squashing the kid without permanent damage would be challenging
Of course we all draw the line somewhere. We all feel different about different things.
And it all comes down to why a person does something and if that person is able to comprehend what he/she is doing.
A 5 year old kid killing an ant or a snail, well, reason for the parent to give the kid a good talking to and explain why it is wrong to kill any creature (you might find it weird, but I am completely opposed to physical punishment for kids!). And maybe a day or two without tv, computer or something if felt necessary. If the kid learns its lesson, OK. If it starts killing more animals, I would be worried and recommend treatment (psychological). If it continues to act out like that after treatment and knowing full well what it is doing, I guess you will have to make sure the not so innocent kid is prevented from doing something like that ever again, i.e. locking him up until he poses no more threat.
Posted on: 30 December 2010 by Mike Dudley
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If it starts killing more animals, I would be worried and recommend treatment (psychological
Are children naturally cruel?
Posted on: 31 December 2010 by GreenAlex
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Originally posted by Mike Dudley:
Are children naturally cruel?
Are teens or grown-ups naturally cruel or cat-suffocators?
No, of course not. I was just trying to say, that each offense has to be judged in context. And your example of a kid is an example where, as a single event, the kid should be explained what it did was wrong.
And that my comments were not meant as a general way of dealing with humans.
I am a peace loving vegetarian and have never physically harmed another human being nor wanted any animal to suffer. But I also think that some people do deserve a bit of pain and suffering for what they did.
Lucky for them, unlike them, we do not torture nor kill.
Posted on: 31 December 2010 by Mike Dudley
I wonder what made the child cruel, then? And, is it then his fault that he is like that?
Posted on: 31 December 2010 by JamieL_v2
Mike
That argument would let everyone off with every crime, until we found their great x? grandparents, and posthumously damned them. There is a point where people answer for their own actions, we all have the ability to better ourselves.
I understand Alex's point of view, we have a cat who is part of the family, if anyone killed or tortured her my point of reason would easily be crossed.
The individual who this thread started about was certainly not a child, and I look forward to seeing their name in the news, this time next to a RSPCA prosecutor. I am quite aware that this is not the greatest crime ever committed, and I would not expect a huge sentence, but I would expect some retribution.
Posted on: 31 December 2010 by Derry
Children aren't cruel, they lack empathy.
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by JamieL_v2
To add to the list of scum, and I really do not care about holding back on words. Luis Moerno (footballer & scum) has has become a hate figure in Columbia, good, I hope someone kicks him as hard as he did to a stunned owl on a football pitch, causing its death a couple of hours later.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/n...uld-a-child-be-next/I think the Telegraph headline is a bit over the top, but I think the sentiments are correct. SCUM.
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by David Scott
The guy certainly shouldn't have kicked the owl and seems to be something of a charmless bastard, but that headline is unbelievable.
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by naim_nymph
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by naim_nymph
Luis Moreno, who caused the death of the owl, is clearly a typical dumb-arse football player with a roll-bar where a brain should be.
Going by the fact you can’t really expect modern football players to be intelligent people, it’s questionable to what an owl was doing in that environment.
The owl is a nocturnal bird, and although it may have been night-time while the match was being played, the floodlights and stadium crowd noise would probably cause it confusion and stress - as it stood so vulnerably on the sidelines.
If the owl was a team mascot they should have taken better care and kept it in a safe and more peaceful place with a handler.
Debs
Posted on: 03 March 2011 by JamieL_v2
Debs, the owl had nested in the stadium and had been adopted as an unofficial mascot by the fans. I rather like the fact that rather than clearing it out of the stadium, that the team and fans allowed it to stay and cared about it.
Sad that they allowed that scum to play there, I suspect he will not play there again, although I would enjoy watching his reception if he tries to.
Going back to the start of this thread, apparently the scum who killed the kittens is a french porn actor:
http://teddyhilton.com/2011-01...ied-as-gay-porn-starFacebook page to catch him:
http://www.facebook.com/home.p...70029323074&ap=1Jamie
Posted on: 03 March 2011 by David Scott
"Going back to the start of this thread"
God no - please!
Posted on: 14 March 2011 by Mike-B
Another cat killer in the news
Prospective LibDem MP Mike Dixon has been jailed for bludgeoning a family cat to death with a walking stick.
Magistrates heard how he lost his temper after the cat scratched one of his grandchildren.
He chased the cat into bedroom and locked the door behind him before beating it with the stick.
The cat who had lived with the family for 5 years died half an hour after the attack with 10 broken bones and a skull fracture.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...k.html#ixzz1GZekwXIVUnbelievably sick sick sick.
Cats scratch - period. Puppies pee on the floor & grow up to chew stuff, cats dig the flower beds & kill birds, if you don't accept that, don't have animals.
Apart from the act of killing the cat, what on earth must his grandchildren think of him now.
Grandfathers should be a person who has the respect & trust of the little ones, a person who they can relate to. Sad !!!!
Posted on: 14 March 2011 by David Scott
I expect it didn't seem like such a good idea once he'd calmed down a bit.
It must be very confusing being a Lib Dem these days - perhaps he thought it was party policy.
