New Naim NDX

Is this the one Naim were keeping quiet about?

Unless Paul has something else up his sleeves for Rayleigh Open Day on the 16th.

John

Milano on the 16th Sept

So ... is the Dac in this comaparable to the one in the NDAC? It says that it is "based on" the NDAC and that it may be upgraded with the NDAC:

"In addition, it can be upgraded with the addition of an XPS or PS555 external power supply and/or a Naim DAC."

I think that there still is a slot in the Naim hierarchy for a pure streamer that would plug into the NDAC. I know the box count would be 2 but it would allow me (and others) to upgrade at a more affordable rate.

Best wishes,
Peter

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Originally posted by Polarbear:
Is this the one Naim were keeping quiet about?

Yes it's the one us dealers were embargoed on talking about until 10am tomorrow!

KR

Peter

Finally a stripped down HDX! Naims information strategy is very strange and I guess a lot of Linn DS buyers here would have waited, if Naim announced the NDX earlier...

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A new high end streamer is launched.

So £3K is high end now???

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ali 026:
3K isn't small change either....

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Originally posted by John R.:
Finally a stripped down HDX! Naims information strategy is very strange and I guess a lot of Linn DS buyers here would have waited, if Naim announced the NDX earlier...

Probably not

Which November?

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Originally posted by abbydog:

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A new high end streamer is launched.

So £3K is high end now???

Plus NDAC, plus 555psu and three more layers of Fraim!

It is meant to go with the Classic series. So there is still hope for a 500 series Naim Dac, NStream, NDX 555 or ...

I (and many others) still could find use for a Classic Series NStream.

Best wishes,
Peter

Is it with or without power-amp section?

Such as a pre amp?? With streaming possibilities?

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Originally posted by Polarbear:

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Originally posted by abbydog:

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A new high end streamer is launched.

So £3K is high end now???

Plus NDAC, plus 555psu and three more layers of Fraim!

according to Malcolm Steward, the reference system is now NDX + 555PS + DAC + 555PS. Which, with a 552 and 500 makes 8 boxes. Suddenly, the CD555 starts to look attractive again

Why would you have a 555 psu on the head unit?

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Originally posted by John R.:
Finally a stripped down HDX! Naims information strategy is very strange and I guess a lot of Linn DS buyers here would have waited, if Naim announced the NDX earlier...

Hi,

Not a stripped down HDX in any way - the HDX is a ripping engine with local storage (if you take the 1Tb option), UPnP Server and is capable of scanning network shares and doing local playback of music that it finds on those shares so is quite a different unit ... the only *ACTUAL* common functionality of the two is that they make music.

Phil

Or you could say that an NDX is an HDX with WiFi added and ripping engine removed. Is it really so different?

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Originally posted by Polarbear:
Why would you have a 555 psu on the head unit?

no idea. Profligacy?

So, I can throw out the Linn DS, replace with the NDX and press play?

It would look better in the Fraim

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Originally posted by Frank Abela:
Or you could say that an NDX is an HDX with WiFi added and ripping engine removed. Is it really so different?

The HDX and NDX are very different...

The HDX can play from local storage whereas the NDX has no local storage,

The HDX can rip whereas the NDX cannot,

The HDX has no radio whereas the NDX has both DAB/FM and Internet Radio

The NDX has S/PDIF inputs for other devices whereas the HDX doesn't,

The HDX operates as a UPnP server whereas the NDX is a UPnP client...

(etc.)

The two devices complement each other as opposed to having overlapping functionality.

Phil

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according to Malcolm Steward, the reference system is now NDX + 555PS + DAC + 555PS. Which, with a 552 and 500 makes 8 boxes. Suddenly, the CD555 starts to look attractive again

Wouldn't the two power outputs on the 555PS be capable of powering both NDX and nDAC?

Gav.

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Originally posted by AllenB:
I don't know if anyone else finds Naim's strategy a little perplexing. The What hi-fi description seems to describe DAC section that is the same as the stand-alone unit, yet the unit also appears to be upgraded by the same!

What would be the point of that if you already own the nDAC? Three grand to get streaming facilities? I could understand it if the DAC's are identical, then one could trade in the nDAC for the NDX.

Statement from Naim please - are the DAC sections identical?

The DAC sections *CANNOT* be identical as they have different functionality and (very) different board layouts ... however they do share components and technology (of course) so they can be said - quite correctly - to be similar and the DAC in the NDX is based upon the work done for the nDAC.

As is our way though we try to ensure that our products can be upgraded should the user wish to do so - so the NDX can be upgraded with an external PSU or with an external DAC should the end user wish to do so.

Phil

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Originally posted by gav111n:

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according to Malcolm Steward, the reference system is now NDX + 555PS + DAC + 555PS. Which, with a 552 and 500 makes 8 boxes. Suddenly, the CD555 starts to look attractive again

Wouldn't the two power outputs on the 555PS be capable of powering both NDX and nDAC?

Gav.

No - the two outputs on the 555PS are *NOT* identical, they are designed to power two different sets of circuitry within the 555PS and therefore have different pinouts and do not carry the same sets of voltages.

Phil

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Originally posted by Phil Harris:

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Originally posted by Frank Abela:
Or you could say that an NDX is an HDX with WiFi added and ripping engine removed. Is it really so different?

The HDX and NDX are very different...

The HDX can play from local storage whereas the NDX has no local storage,

The HDX can rip whereas the NDX cannot,

Phil

Is the NDX at a disadvantage to the HDX because it does not benefit from the Naim bit perfect ripping?

Or is there a software bundle included?

Never happy...

Some people are never happy.

Apart from one report on the sound quality from Malcolm Steward, no one has heard what the NDX sounds like.

Maybe before passing judgement on value/sound quality vs Linn (or any other device) you should all wait till it's actually available and compare for yourself...

Just a few weeks ago everyone (in the Dist Audio forum) was saying how Naim should release exactly this - a higher end (than Uniti) pure streamer with analogue out and digital inputs. Now suddenly the design is wrong!

Maybe you should look at the PS555 and nDAC as *options* and upgrades rather than essential to the use of the device!

Eloise

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Originally posted by Nero:

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Originally posted by Polarbear:

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Originally posted by abbydog:

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A new high end streamer is launched.

So £3K is high end now???

Plus NDAC, plus 555psu and three more layers of Fraim!

according to Malcolm Steward, the reference system is now NDX + 555PS + DAC + 555PS. Which, with a 552 and 500 makes 8 boxes. Suddenly, the CD555 starts to look attractive again

To be fair, you don't have to buy the power supplies, So that's only a two box source solution, as a CD555. You could argue that the ultimate CD555 is a three box solution anyway