Forum Rugby Club - 2010-11 Season

Not to worry as we will peak at the world cup and the All Blacks will be over the hill as per usual
Although for me Delon Armitage should be shown the door by Johno for his stupidity after only a few moments on the pitch which gave Carter three points and should have cost him a sin bin or worse

I thought England played pretty well in the second half considering they had not played together for several months and the ABs were well drilled.

They definitely gave them a hard game.

I wonder if the AB that head butted Moody whilst he was on the ground has been cited yet

Or Hartley for forearm smashing McCaw?

Yeh, but that was fair game

Just seen the LV games on ITV4. Obviously one only sees glimpses, but those Tigers colts need to learn a bit about defence...

Well done Exeter Chiefs, another good result for the newbies

The Luncheon Voucher Cup?!!!

Just a thing from a friend on Flickr, didn't think it would come up because of type of coding, and it didn't.

Ah, it had changed when I went back in so I thought I was seeing things and changed my response.

It's still the Luncheon Voucher Cup though!

Aussies next and another tough one which will really test how England have developed. They will need to keep the ball away from those backs because they are ruthless in their execution and can slice open the tightest defence.

Don`t worry about the Aussies we`ll soften them up


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Forgot to say that it was obvious on Friday evening that Cockers is not concerned with the LV cup

Exactly, Luncheon Voucher Cup

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Originally posted by deadlifter:
Don`t worry about the Aussies we`ll soften them up


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Maybe, but as they showed last week they don't need much of the ball to rip apart a defence.

The Springboks must of thought that they would rip us apart too. An old saying, Let him who seeks the Tiger be sure he wants to find it

Yes, careful saying stuff like that, international teams will literally crush any player taking a cheap shot (see what happened to Hartley when he took a cheap shot at McCaw ), and our Robbie has certainly shaped the Wallabies into a decent team. They will be dangerous in the loose ball area as well - well known for "cheating" in the ruck.

The England test was a beauty, and in the words of your back coach, "defence will win the game".
A good hard hard game, a few dust ups, a few crap calls by officials - yep a good test.

It was a Southern Hemishpere trifecta as well last weekend, and now the call is to bring on the Grand Slam!!!

A slightly different view from the New Zealand Herald:


"If there is a sporting power above in charge of dispensing justice, let's hope it ensures the affluent basket case that is English rugby never wins the World Cup again.

They don't deserve any glory.

Seven years on from their triumph in Australia - when they set their plodding game in concrete by winning without style - England are as bad as ever."


The author, Chris Rattue goes on to lambast the All Blacks as well, calling it a "shabby performance". It is interesting to observe the different perspectives and England get a real pasting for the quality of their rugby, even the team that won the world cup. In this article the only team playing decent rugby anywhere in the world is the Australian Rugby League team.

I guess when you're at the north pole everywhere else is south!

Also interesting is the amount of complaining on the Kiwi forums about the Dylan Hartley incident and his try, and the English shouts for a penalty try for the Hape near miss.

One tirade even has the temerity to cite the whingeing poms chestnut amidst all of the above!

Blimey! Whingeing Poms?!!

A more balanced report from Peter Bills in the NZ Herald:


" The very different levels of precision and attention to detail of the New Zealand and England rugby teams were laid bare at Twickenham on Saturday. New Zealand might have had to negotiate some tricky moments, and a 10-point victory hardly suggests a rout. But a great chasm separated the sides in terms of expectation, clinical finishing and poise, power and decision-making at critical moments. Overall, I thought this was a fairly ordinary New Zealand performance. They spilled ball, made several elementary errors and had Jerome Kaino sin-binned at a crucial time for persistent offending. Kaino's indiscretions ought to concern the All Blacks. For a start, they don't need to keep infringing - they're too good a side to have to stoop to these levels. And if they don't eliminate it from their game, it could come back to haunt them at a critical moment. Like a World Cup quarter or semifinal . Even at perhaps no more than 60 per cent of their potential, New Zealand scored two first-half tries with some aplomb. England then created two scoring opportunities before half time, but blew both. Poor vision, ordinary passing and bad poise and judgment at the vital moment undermined their efforts. England manager Martin Johnson later bemoaned this facet of his team's play, saying they were rusty and had squandered scoring chances. True, but England sides have been doing this ever since their 2003 World Cup winning team fell apart. This lack of creativity and subtlety is a fundamental weakness of the English game, and one of the reasons is that players are unaccustomed to the high levels of demand and personal expectation New Zealand rugby players handle every time they play the game. This is one of the core differences between the two nations. Thus, there was an air of predictability about the whole game at Twickenham. Even well below their best, New Zealand were never going to lose this game because England's players are not used to operating at such sustained speed, under such consistent pressure as teams like New Zealand apply. For New Zealand to have won by 10 points while playing considerably short of their best and with a man missing for almost the entire last 10 minutes, showed the difference in standards between these countries."


I think this is probably about right.

How many times have the All Blacks won the world cup and how long ago was it

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Originally posted by deadlifter:
How many times have the All Blacks won the world cup and how long ago was it

Not interested. I'm only interested in England winning it again and I think to do that they need the mentality described above by Bills. England need to raise expectations.

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Originally posted by deadlifter:
How many times have the All Blacks won the world cup and how long ago was it

The same number of times as England

Australia and South Africa on the other hand have won it twice

Like it or not, I would say that there is a pretty good chance that the Webb Ellis trophy will be staying in the Southern Hemisphere until at least 2015.

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Originally posted by Chillkram:
A more balanced report from Peter Bills in the NZ Herald:



I think it is probably about right.

Agreed and painfully visible this weekend. A great day out as usual, but the elementary handling and lack of creativity close to the line has become habitual.

Joe

The point of asking you how many times that the All Blacks had won the world cup was to show that they are not the best team at the end of the day, that belongs to the Springboks and the Wallabys.
And when all said and done we have three hundred days and more in which a lot can happen e.g. injury`s, bans and ending of careers for whatever reason, so lets just enjoy what is occurring now and not worry about statistics, biased paper reviews and what other pillocks say because it only matters on the day when that whistle blows and for all the build up for the All Blacks you know what they say, and i should know being a Tiger, PRIDE COMES BEFORE A FALL

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LEICESTER TIGERS LINE-UP FOR WALLABIES TEST
8 November 2010, 12:00 pmBy Gary Sherrard
Geordan Murphy will captain Leicester Tigers in their hugely anticipated clash with Australia at Welford Road on Tuesday night (7.30pm).
Following last season's historic victory over South Africa, Tigers host the Qantas Wallabies, the two-time world champions, in the second game of their European tour.
And director of rugby Richard Cockerill has named ten internationals in his squad, including club captain Murphy.

England internationals George Chuter, Julian White and Jordan Crane are included in the pack while Anthony Allen is at centre and Dan Hipkiss is named among the replacements. All Blacks Scott Hamilton and Craig Newby are also selected and Tonga international Steve Mafi takes his place on the bench.

Peter Bucknall will make his first start for Tigers. The replacements include Argentinean prop Gaston de Robertis, a short-term signing in the absence Boris Stankovich who suffered a fractured eye socket in the win over Bath last month. The 30-year-old de Robertis, capped three times by the Pumas, has previous experience in Europe with spells at Amatori Catania and Benetton Treviso in Italy, and at Biarritz in France, as well as playing in South Africa with Western Province.

Cockerill said: "Both sides will go out to play and make it an entertaining and really enjoyable night for everybody.

"We've got a lot to live up to after last year's win over South Africa. It's a great occasion and it sums up where we are in the world of rugby that we can get this fixture. We will try to have a crack at them and have a really good night."

This is only the second time in their 130-year history that Tigers have taken on Australia and it promises to be a great occasion. Kick-off is at 7.30pm and tickets are on general sale now, priced from £23.

Tigers will turn back the clock by wearing lettered shirts for the match. Tigers were famous for their lettered shirts - including the ABC front row - up to the final years of the 20th Century when all clubs were requested to use numbers in the early years of professionalism.

The lettered shirts are to be sold after the match with the proceeds going to worthy causes.

Cockerill said: "For everybody who wears the jersey, it is not their jersey, they just get to wear it for a short period of time. It is nice to see the letters on the shirts again and we all hope that everybody wearing it does it justice."



Leicester Tigers (v Australia, Welford Road, Tuesday 7.30pm)
0 Geordan Murphy (c)
N Scott Hamilton
M Matt Smith
L Anthony Allen
K Manu Tuilagi
J Billy Twelvetrees
I James Grindal
A Peter Bucknall
B George Chuter
C Julian White
D Ed Slater
E George Skivington
F Thomas Waldrom
H Craig Newby
G Jordan Crane

Replacements
P Rob Hawkins
Q Gaston De-Robertis
R Steve Mafi
S Ben Pienaar
T Jason Spice
U George Ford
V Dan Hipkiss

I can't go anyway, but I'd only be overwhelmed with emotion and suffer from leaking eyes when I saw Tigers' proper letters on their jerseys.