How to move WAV lossless from local HDD to NAS

Hello Hani, welcome to the forum.

1) Login to your nas and create a target folder where you want to place the music. Make sure you share it and your windows user has access rights.
2) Open windows explorer and use tools->map network drive to mount the drive on your windows machine.
3) The nas drive will now show up as an extra volume (eg Z on the windows box.
4) Use windows explorer to drag the files from your local drive to the network drive.

I am not sure if you can use media player to move the files.

Hi Gusi, and thank you for your nice warm welcome.

I have done the following steps:

1. The NAS has 3 shared folders, i selected one of them which is named "info" and i credtaed a subfolder called "music"

2. I shared this folder and mapped it as "L" drive

3. I used copy paste (folders) from the original hard disk of my laptop to the new shared folder on NAS. I have around 300 folders (i.e. 300 albums), just for trial i tried with only 10 folders.

4. The folders appear there.

However, if i open my windows media player, and i selected the NAS drive, the music does not appear in albums, they all appear under one albus called "unknown", and all the songs are under this one album!!! Therefore, i now have thousand of songs under this one album.

Any ideas how this can be rectified?

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Originally posted by Hani:
Hi Gusi, and thank you for your nice warm welcome.

I have done the following steps:

1. The NAS has 3 shared folders, i selected one of them which is named "info" and i credtaed a subfolder called "music"

2. I shared this folder and mapped it as "L" drive

3. I used copy paste (folders) from the original hard disk of my laptop to the new shared folder on NAS. I have around 300 folders (i.e. 300 albums), just for trial i tried with only 10 folders.

4. The folders appear there.

However, if i open my windows media player, and i selected the NAS drive, the music does not appear in albums, they all appear under one albus called "unknown", and all the songs are under this one album!!! Therefore, i now have thousand of songs under this one album.

Any ideas how this can be rectified?

Hello Hani

I don't use Windows Media PLayer myself, but my guess is that WMP uses information it finds in tags embedded in the music file to retrieve information about artist and album etc, and not from the folder-name where it is stored, or WMP cannot read tags from wav-files (?).

Wav-files can contain tags, but there are still many programs that cannot handle tags in WAV-files. Because tagging wasn't very often done with wav-files (though nowadays more and more people and programs are doing so).

Getting tags added to the wav-files is no easy task if it hasn't been done while ripping the CD.

IMO the easiest way to proceed (still some work to do though) would be to convert the wav-files to flac or ape (some lossless codec that WMP can read if you want to continue to use WMP) and then use a free program like MP3tag (don't let the name fool you, it can add tags to many types of audio file) to add tags based on folder structure.

In MP3tag (which unfortunately cannot tag wav-files) you can tell it to add tags based on folder structure, e.g. if you stored the audio files like "Robert Cray\Strong Persuader\<trackname 1>.wav" you can tell MP3tag to add tags using "%artist%\%album%\%title%". This way you can fairly quickly add tags into an audio file.

If you want to continue to use wav-files (which some of us do because of sound quality) it would be best to rip your CDs with dBPoweramp CDRipper which can add tags to WAV-files during the ripping proces which it retrieves from the internet (it uses AMG just like Naims rippers).

Good luck with the work

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aleg

Hello Aleg,

Thanks a lot for the good ideas, i have already downloaded dbPoweramp and MP3tag, i will try converting all my wav lossless to flac and add tags, i'll see if this solves my predicament

In terms of sounds quality, will I lose any sound quality if I change from wav lossless to flac? My NAIM dealer here in Dubai informed me that the sound quality is the same on both formats. Whats your opinion? I am using a Uniti for now, but planning to upgrade to either NAP 200 or 250.

Since you do not use Windows Media Player, which app do you use? I am having problems also running music from my laptop from Windows Media Player to Uniti, i sometimes have connection errors and sometimes long delays before playing a song (up to a minute), could this be because of WMP12? Any other software you know which works flawlessly?

Cheers.

quote:

Originally posted by Hani:
Hello Aleg,

Thanks a lot for the good ideas, i have already downloaded dbPoweramp and MP3tag, i will try converting all my wav lossless to flac and add tags, i'll see if this solves my predicament

In terms of sounds quality, will I lose any sound quality if I change from wav lossless to flac? My NAIM dealer here in Dubai informed me that the sound quality is the same on both formats. Whats your opinion? I am using a Uniti for now, but planning to upgrade to either NAP 200 or 250.

Since you do not use Windows Media Player, which app do you use? I am having problems also running music from my laptop from Windows Media Player to Uniti, i sometimes have connection errors and sometimes long delays before playing a song (up to a minute), could this be because of WMP12? Any other software you know which works flawlessly?

Cheers.

Hani

Try with one album first and see if it solves your issues.

Both codecs are lossless so no information is lost and in theory both formats should be equal in sound quality.
Some people however do hear a difference (and many don't hear any difference). The 'explanation' given is that the extra processing for decoding the FLAC might cause 'some noticable influence' down the line.
My advice is just try it for yourself and listen for any differences. You can convert either format into the other without any loss of information, so no worries there.

At the moment I use JRiver Mediacentre (which is not free), but Foobar 2000 is also very good and is free.

But just try it with small amounts of work and see if any of these changes resolves your issues.

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aleg

Hani

Does the uniti see this music?

If not, you need to switch on the server option on the Linkstation.

1 Run the nasnavigator.
2 Right click on the drive, and select 'open web settings'
3 Login to the drive, usually ADMIN and PASSWORD
4 Go to EXTENSIONS
5 Enable MEDIASERVER


You used the 'info' share, this is usually set to read only on the buffalo, it is easier to use the 'SHARE' share (?)

As for FLAC/WAV software, try MediaMonkey to catalogue and edit info, and DBPoweramp to actually rip the music

Thanks guys for all the good ideas, i have managed now to view all my music as WAV LOSSLESS (stored on my NAS) on the Uniti and on my Windows Media Player. If i select the songs from my Uniti, it plays without any problems now, however i have problems to play the music directly from my Windows Media Player. It takes a long time to load on the Uniti, and most of the time it will give an error, any ideas why? Any solution to this problem?

Who knows perhaps if you stated what the error was that would be a start.

Why are you using windows media player to access the uniti?

The linkstation has its own upnp software and streams directly to the uniti

It is probably a confict between UPnP servers. Use only one server and you should be ok.

Garyi, the error message is connection error, when i start windows media player, the first songs plays but it takes almost one minute to start, however if i have to select another song, then the media player gives a connection error message and no communication with Uniti.

Sloop John B, I did not find any media player with my Link Station, do i have to download it from the Buffalo website? Where can i find it?

Manu, I have only one UPnp server which is the Link Station, is there any way of finding out if there is a conflict?

Hani,

Have your NAS powered, your computer off.

Press pc on uniti remote and it should see linkstation LS-CH..... or somesuch. THe linkstatin is a UPNP server and media player (among other things) is one also.
You don't need media player to do any of this.

Media player is only needed if you want to stream from your pc to the UniQute which I presume you don't as you have a NAS.

Sloop, that works just fine, however you know how small and inconvenient the extremely tiny small display is on the uniti, and this is precisely why i would like to use my laptop, select a song from my laptop (currently in my case windows media player), and play it directly on the uniti. Dont get me wrong, it does work, but i have the following problems:

1. It does not work 100% of the time, it is like it is haunted, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.
2. It takes over a minute to play, while it is instant if i select it on the uniti.

Perhaps there is another software which can do this job? I tried various software such as Twonky and MediaMonkey, but they do not play to the Uniti.