For each (or any) instrument, what is it you look to your system to reproduce?
Posted by: mikeeschman on 25 October 2010
For example, on violin, I want to hear the bow and the sound box, and how the phrase comes out of that. If any beats are present, I want to hear them, as they must be intentional.
Drums should have a physical impact on your hearing, and not be blurred or smeared in any way.
As for cymbals, there is no such thing as too many overtones.
Drums should have a physical impact on your hearing, and not be blurred or smeared in any way.
As for cymbals, there is no such thing as too many overtones.
Posted on: 25 October 2010 by George Fredrik
The Music? Well that is all for me ...
ATB from George
ATB from George
Posted on: 25 October 2010 by mikeeschman
Of course the music comes first.
But my wife and I love the sound of instruments, and she is a tuner. As such, she pays great attention to the voicing of instruments, as do I.
It's part of the pleasure in music.
Some systems do better at mimicking the sound of instruments than do others.
When you go shopping for gear, it's one of the things that is to be sorted out, and ever after to be enjoyed.
With music three things want attention : the music, the instruments and the people, composer and performer alike. In live venues, the hall also plays a musical role, but stereo is something altogether different.
So I guess this thread is more hifi than music, but in a musical vein.
But my wife and I love the sound of instruments, and she is a tuner. As such, she pays great attention to the voicing of instruments, as do I.
It's part of the pleasure in music.
Some systems do better at mimicking the sound of instruments than do others.
When you go shopping for gear, it's one of the things that is to be sorted out, and ever after to be enjoyed.
With music three things want attention : the music, the instruments and the people, composer and performer alike. In live venues, the hall also plays a musical role, but stereo is something altogether different.
So I guess this thread is more hifi than music, but in a musical vein.
Posted on: 25 October 2010 by Mike Hughes
The calm before the storm I fear!!!
Posted on: 25 October 2010 by George Fredrik
Dear Mike [E],
Actually you have already picked up on the fact that I personally don't give a fig about the sound provided that the tuning is fine, the phrasing expressive, and the rhythms clear. Hence my happiest listening tends to be to the monochromatic [the visual allusion is intended use of the word] sounds of the harpsichord, and the string quartet!
I know that I am certainly different to most in this, but for me “colourism” in music is nothing other than sugar on the pie! If the pie is good, then sugar is for me superfluous!
And you have picked this up already, but my view is written in the spirit of an answer to you post rather than an epistle for other to read and follow!!
Best wishes from George
Actually you have already picked up on the fact that I personally don't give a fig about the sound provided that the tuning is fine, the phrasing expressive, and the rhythms clear. Hence my happiest listening tends to be to the monochromatic [the visual allusion is intended use of the word] sounds of the harpsichord, and the string quartet!
I know that I am certainly different to most in this, but for me “colourism” in music is nothing other than sugar on the pie! If the pie is good, then sugar is for me superfluous!
And you have picked this up already, but my view is written in the spirit of an answer to you post rather than an epistle for other to read and follow!!
Best wishes from George
Posted on: 25 October 2010 by Mike Smiff
For the pie to be great and not just good it needs not to taste of added sugar, for Me this is a "colourism".
Posted on: 25 October 2010 by Bruce Woodhouse
Mike
I'm with George
Not everybody has such an analytical approach to music and listening as you. A large majority of the time I'm not consciously aware of what instruments I'm listening to, let alone if they are tuned properly. I find breaking down music into its individual elements impossible and, more importantly, irrelevant to my pleasure. Music for me is about mood, emotion, atmosphere, suprises and challenges. It has nothing to do with individual instrumentation.
As an example I'll suggest Johnny Cash 'Hurt', in which a man sings far too close to the mike with a voice that has partly gone to seed and yet still manages to break your heart. I guess what I want from my system is the ability to reproduce that rawness when needed, in other words transparency.
I understand that others come at this from different angles, if I could play any musical instrument I might have a more technical apreciation of that particular element in a piece but as it is the only thing I can play is the remote control!
Bruce
I'm with George
Not everybody has such an analytical approach to music and listening as you. A large majority of the time I'm not consciously aware of what instruments I'm listening to, let alone if they are tuned properly. I find breaking down music into its individual elements impossible and, more importantly, irrelevant to my pleasure. Music for me is about mood, emotion, atmosphere, suprises and challenges. It has nothing to do with individual instrumentation.
As an example I'll suggest Johnny Cash 'Hurt', in which a man sings far too close to the mike with a voice that has partly gone to seed and yet still manages to break your heart. I guess what I want from my system is the ability to reproduce that rawness when needed, in other words transparency.
I understand that others come at this from different angles, if I could play any musical instrument I might have a more technical apreciation of that particular element in a piece but as it is the only thing I can play is the remote control!
Bruce
Posted on: 26 October 2010 by GraemeH
Wind
Posted on: 26 October 2010 by Peter Dinh
Voice! but not exactly what you are asking.
Posted on: 26 October 2010 by BigH47
All of them!
Posted on: 26 October 2010 by mikeeschman
quote:Originally posted by Frank F:quote:and she is a tuner
What stations does she pick up?
FF
My wife tunes and voices pianos.