Remasters

Sheer madness, in my view!

I try that album every ten years or so, and have never 'got' it.

Lol. I remember I was about 12, 1st year in secondary school (talking 36 yrs ago!), borrowed it off my big cousin, taped it and couldn't stop playing it. It was my first prog rock album, suppose if you can get into that you can get into just about anything!

Wierd I suppose, I try imagining my daughters doing a similar thing, they just don't have the patience these days. Been playing 2112 at home a few times recently and they've started tapping their feet so there may be some hope.

Sabbath bloody Sabbath rhino vinyl is £6.99 inc free post at hmv at the mo.

Grab while you can.

Stu

Thanks Stu, ordered.

Denis

Renzo, I have (and delight in) Yes albums from The Yes Album to Relayer, plus the live Yessongs. All are, to a greater or lesser extent, superb. Tales From Soporific Oceans is a pile of poo, by comparison.

But you've prompted me to dig it out again soon, and endure its longueurs: I was a young man when I started this!!

OMG!!!! Tales was delivered yesterday, the remastered version really is excellent ( my only other copy is a 20yr old vinyl thats seen its fair share of abuse, so not much to go on!). Played it all the way through, I honestly can't believe how great and timeless it is. Was reading some comments on Amazon about the album and someone suggested dimming the lights and letting yourself go and it reminded me that when I was a kid I used to lie in the bath for hours listening to this, and needing to top up with hot water because it used to go cold on me!!! We just don't have time to do these things properly anymore.

'Influence' by Art of Noise is remastered exceedingly well, and the sleeve notes contain some very interesting bits on how it was achieved. Also contains my favourite of theirs 'Moments in love' in different mixes.

Paranomia is brilliant!

Another well worth investigating is A Secret Wish by Propaganda for those that remember them.

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Indeed I do remember Propaganda. The 25th anniversary release (with DVD) was pants by my ears but there is a Japanese remaster bundled with another CD in a cardboard sleeve which is spine tingling good. It contained "The Analogue Sessions" arrangements. Better still is the most recent 2 CD release which contains the original arrangements from 1984 (or there about) plus the Analogue Sessions arrangements plus remixed and extended versos - not those already released Outside World and Wistful Thinking. Excellent sound quality IMO. 

This one album has been very well served down the years, the only low point (subjectively) being the rather scratchy and uncouth 25th anniversary CD. But the bundled DVD (videos) is a minor gem if you want to collect as many relics as possible.

Agreed. And if anything this is the weakest effort in the Rhino collection.

You can still get Fragile and The Yes Album on MFSL Gold CD. I can recommend both highly. I would say the MFSL 16/44 version of Fragile sounds better than the 24/96 download. Further to that the MFSL release of The Yes Album is the first to surpass my original vinyl, which showed all the CD releases a clean pair of heels for more than 25 years.

OK I am, also, a big fan of Tales.  While it does bog down a little (I recall a spot where there are a lot of cymbal crashes and other percussion 'stuff' that I'd be happy to fast forward through), I do still find it compelling. 

Amazon has the Rhino reissues at relatively good prices for us Americans -- a little cheaper than via the Rhino website.

The further you go up the replay quality chain Bart, the more passages like this (Ritual in this case) resolve and make a kind of sense, as the rhythms and textures emerge. I like Yes for lots of reasons. One (in no particular order) being the contrast between these passages of insanity and the melodic passages that book end them. I suppose this is why I like Reayer so much. It's so schizophrenic. In fact, I'm going off to play it now.....

Guys, I've just tried ripping the Rhino Yes albums (Tales/Going for the 1/ Closer to the Edge) that I bought this week (using MediaMonkey and dbPoweramp, on 2 different computers) for ipod and in car use but they won't rip!

Any of you had similar problems?

I've only used the HDX to rip mine, which went fine. I wonder if there are non music files for "enhanced user experience" lurking? 

You need to remove the copyright protection.

Sorry but you will have to find out how to do that.

Stu

Yes with a Hollies compilation - you can't play it on anything that it suspects is a computer, it just ejects - even my Amiga couldn't read it - no chance with a Mac or PC. 

However, my Yamaha HD-CR 1300 made a nice copy of it to its hard disk which I then burned to CD-R using the AMQ option and it ripped on Mac using iTunes. The road was long with many a winding turn that lead me to who knows where, but I stayed strong, strong enough to carry on .... this is the only Hollies CD that exhibits this daft behaviour .... sounds better on vinyl anyway. 

I have one cd that wont even play in  Naim cd players/cd5x/cd555 its so copyright fooked up.

It will play in anyother cheap cdp though.Mental.

Stu.

Hmm, I've read this so many times on here, but I have to say my experiences have been the opposite. I have what I assume is an original CD of Royal Scam (it has DIDX-370 and MCAD-37044 on the spine) and it sounds flat as a pancake, there's no life in it whatsoever. I think the most recent remasters (the ones with liner notes by Becker and Fagen) are easily the best I've heard, they sound gorgeous - warm, dynamic, and incredibly detailed. Lots of people also seem to rate the Citizen box highly but to me that sounds far too bright.

Finally managed to rip the Yes albums bought recently. Used an old Acer portable running Windows XP and with EAC ( no dodgy software needed) so it seems like it most likely is some sort of drive problem.

Mightly relieved because I'd purposefully bought Singles, New Order  just to get Ceremony and it wouldn't rip but now I can have it on my iPhone

Without knowing which remaster you are talking about, can't comment there have been at least three remasters that I can think of.  Certainly the Citizen Box set were similar to individual remasters issued late 90's and are bright with a bit of compression - sounding slightly louder too.  But one man's 'dynamic' is another's 'EQ tweaked.  You pays your money, I found them fatiguing.

The original I have (same as you mention) has dynamic range and appears to be a much flatter transfer and simialr to the vinyl.  It is very crankable without getting bright or nasty - have you tried playing it with the wick up?  The remaster I had was 'louder' (dynamic?) and got quite nasty if you turned it up.