JV on the old forum

there is an archive, but i gather its with naims previous web hosts (who were mine as well...) and for some reason, the archive has not be moved over to new hosts.

martin payne appears to have access to quite a lot of jv's old posts -- perhaps, if we ask him kindly, this could get linked up somehow.

as you can see from all sorts of arguments on cables, etc, -- he (with others @ naim) made what appears to be unconventional design decisions in pursuit of good music reproduction at home. i dont know enough to say whether there are 'better' ways or not -- i dont even know what 'earth' is... flat or round...

enjoy

ken

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ken

I'll give a shout when they're up.

Cheers

Keith.

It surprises me that someone at Naim hasn't archived JV's posts for posterity and made them available even as a FAQ or perhaps just a downloadable file. They should be made available to all because they provide a fantastic insight into Naim, its philosophy and how best to optimise things - all from the maestro himself.

My wife and I have been blown away by the 250 tonight on a variety of music from Anam-Van Morrison-John Lee Hooker and much else.

It is astonishing to think that an amplifier designed in 1974 can still have this effect in 2002.

The work of a genius.

Jonathan

In case you didn't already know, this page has some archived JV tidbits.

Thank you very much indeed - some really interesting stuff in there. I'm impressed you had the presence of mind to archive those. Now Paul - how about you host that file on the Naim website as a tribute to Julian?

Needless to say we are both blown away by the 250 - I thought we'd added a subwoofer - I've completely revised my lingering concern that 'SBL's don't do bass properly' - especially when the wooden doors between the lounge and dining room started rattling/creaking in sympathy with electric bass guitar! The top end is more controlled and low level resolution improved too.

A very delighted Jonathan!

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ken

First of all, congratulations on the purchase of the 250. It really is, as you say, a great amp. If it is good now, just think what it was like when it came out all those years ago.

I have always thought that this would be the one item that most people would choose if asked what component symbolised Naim.

I do not know whether or not you subscribe to Hifi plus, however, JV was interviewed along with an article on the history and current application of the 250. The article appeared in issue 4 and as far as I know, it can still be purchased via the mail. In all fairness, it was a very good article and I think you would enjoy reading it.

Regards

Mick

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mike sae, and tzk ... bravo!!!

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Erik

Many thanks for the reference to Hi-Fi+. I have been a subscriber since issue 1 and it's a good read. I re-read that article last night whilst listening to music and then Eilish read it in bed - maybe I should suggest that in the thread about getting your wife interested in Hi-fi!

Quarter to three - can't wait to get out of here (work) and back to the music! It will be interesting to see how the amp's character changes over the next few days.

There are many who might have argued for an 82 in my case but I think sometimes you have to tailor your purchase to personal circumstances. My SBL's back onto a non-solid wall, stand on concrete and consequently were not getting as much bass reinforcement as they would standing on floorboards and backing onto a brick wall.

The 250 is a richer sounding amp than a 180 and so is the perfect solution. If I had bass boom problems it would have been entirely the wrong move I suspect.

Jonathan

The Unofficial Naim FAQ no longer links to those threads after the plug was pulled on the old forum. However, if anyone does have old archived threads I would be happy to add them to the site.

Matthew

If anyone is interested I can pop it somewhere.

Andy.

Seeing how I've already appropriated your bi-wiring pic, could you send me the interview file? I'd like to give it a nice home on my site.

thanks,

mike

It's an odd feeling, knowing how it's going to end. Just that single reference to being ill in the July of 1999.

I sort of met him once at a factory open day, at a time when being nearly 40 seemed an eternity away. I think JV was about 15 years older than me, a short eternity.

Paul

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I read the dump of JV posts... now I'd like to read some of the material around those posts.

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This leads me to a few questions:

• Is there any mechanism by which the contents of the old forum can be made available? It would help a great deal to put his posts in their proper context.
  
• Who at Naim took over his stewardship of the company?
  
• Has Naim considered assigning someone to this task (other than the moderators and Dave D who make occasional postings) of more directly addressing technical and philosophical questions that arise?
  

Erik

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Is there any mechanism by which the contents of the old forum can be made available? It would help a great deal to put his posts in their proper context.

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AFAIK, the company that ran the old forum software doesn't exist anymore; their old archives have probably been deleted out of existence.

On the old forum, there were repeated warnings for people to save what they wanted before the move to this one.

Luckily, tzk and others had the foresight to save JVs posts. All I saved was a URL to Allied electronics

big e-mail OTW.

Thanks for the tip re: JLH - glad my listening list inspired you!

Re; JV I think Erik raises a good point. Like him the thing that stuck me when re-reading JV's posts was the frequency of his interactions on the forum - always there to explain things to people, why Naim believed 'x' was better than 'y', plus frequent debates about cars, bicycles, eating out, travel etc. The value of this cannot be underestimated in terms of building customer loyalty, educating Naim users and understanding the market.

I agree there is merit in more frequent forum participation from Naim if at all possible.

Jonathan

We will look to posting any archived text we have when we do our full site review this summer. We do not have the full contents of the old forum.

"Who at Naim took over his stewardship of the company?"

I did with fellow joint ceo mike moore.

"Has Naim considered assigning someone to this task (other than the moderators and Dave D who make occasional postings) of more directly addressing technical and philosophical questions that arise?"

No sorry, JV had losts more time than anyone here has at present. He was not directly (daily) participating in projects, more over seeing direction issues. This allowed him more time to follow his boat/bike business and take care of you guys.

We were lucky to have JV here not only as MD of Naim. He was a UK Audio Industry pioneer along with IvorT Linn, Bob Stuart Meridian, Peter Walker Quad, John Dawson Arcam, Farad Azima Mission, Raymond Cooke Kef, Sorry if I missed anyone. Got to go!

All technical questions will be answered by emailing the factory direct
We are incredibly busy and the time we spend here is normally our own.

[This message was edited by Paul Stephenson on THURSDAY 28 February 2002 at 08:08.]

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Seeing how I've already appropriated your bi-wiring pic, could you send me the interview file? I'd like to give it a nice home on my site.
thanks, mike

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I didn't feel a thing!

I suggest, if you haven't done so already, that you steal the pics and place them on your site, in case my IC24 website disappears (I don't use that site often).

Anyway JV history seekers, point your browsers to either: -

JV interview (PDF format)

or

JV interview (RTF format)

Depending on your format of choice.

It's typically blunt-speaking JV - this snippet about CD treatments (green pens etc.) made me chuckle: -

JV: Hi-fi for us is not a technological toy, it's something to listen to music with.

PS: Right, now, but you're not inferring from this that these treatments, these user CD treatments, are ineffective with other players.

JV: Absolutely not.

PS: Have you explored that at all, or is that you don't care?

JV: I have heard them used on other people's players and of the players that we've had in the factory and so on, they have made an appreciable difference. But to my ears they change it from one sort of not very nice to another sort of not very nice.

PS: Ahuh.

JV: Some of them you could say it was positive, but then I didn't care for the end result in any event.

Enjoy,

Andy.

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ken

Is this a problem?

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COPYRIGHT NOTICE:
This document is provided solely for the information of the person who downloads it. It is covered by international copyright laws and must not be stored, used, altered, published, otherwise reproduced, or licensed for reproduction in its entirety, in part or in any form through or by means of any media

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I suppose Naim wouldn't be to impressed if I posted this on my site in glorious html, for posterity/archival reasons?

I must quote this:

JV: There are very, very few people and I can't think any audiophile or high-end companies that manufacture a power amplifier which comes in two separate boxes, one the power supply and one the amplifier. It's just not a sensible way of doing it, of putting that sort of uncertainty of a separate cable in between the power supply and the amplifier part of it.

Well, the world seems to change...

Never met the man, but I have a signed portrait (and one of IT for good measures)!

JohanR