If you have read some of my previous postings you are aware that I
have a Mana two tier stand. When I purchased the stand the supplier
was out of the 3M pads that are suppose to go under the feet of the
CD player. My system is a CDX/XPS, 82Super, 135's, SBLs.
I just recently received the 3M pads for the player. I was expecting the
sound to improve from what I was hearing. The 3M pads totally changed
the character of the CDX from what I became normalized to without the
3M pads.
Without the 3M pads the sound has an extended high end with
a tight, tuneful and a harmonic tone to each instrument. I believed
this to be the Mana sound. With the pads the sound of each
instrument sound fuller but the harmonic tone and extended
high end is missing giving it a more compressed sound. The
pads however give the base more of a bouncing rythmic
presence.
I know people such as Vuk have been making rave reviews
about Mana but I would like to know who is using
the 3M pads under their player. I suspect the pads are truer to the
character of the CDX and without them there is some distortion
being created in the signal exagerating the high end. Otherwise
the pads are creating some distortion making the base maybe
more boomier and compressing the high end.
Posted on: 24 October 2000 by Top Cat
Hmmm... you're probably right!
I was quite amazed at how, well, tiny the 3M feet actually are - I expected something a bit more substantial. Damian at Mana popped a set into the box when I originally ordered my reference shelf for the LP12 but I didn't get round to trying them out until I moved up to Phase 3 under the Linn last week...
TC '..'
Posted on: 24 October 2000 by Joe Petrik
Arthur,
quote:
I wonder if the red or pink ones sound any different.
Probably makes a difference on your Billy Bragg LPs -- at least the early ones.
quote:
I'll leave that as a project for Vuk.
He'll be busier than a centipede at a toe-counting contest, what with 3M's Design-a-bump program.
Joe
Posted on: 24 October 2000 by Arthur Bye
Joe:
It says they give out free samples. I imagine 4 free samples would be just about right.
Lets see...... concave?...... convex?...... decisions, decisions, decisons......
Arthur Bye
Posted on: 25 October 2000 by Martin Payne
Joe,
your comment re 30,000 minimum order implies the 5329, 5376 or 5745 products.
It's not the 5329 or 5376 because they're clear. 5745 is too big.
The ones Mana sent me are 8mm diameter & 3mm high. This could only be 5076 on this list. However, since custom shapes & adhesives are possible it is possible these aren't any off-the-shelf product.
For information, B&Q in the UK sell a lot of styles of 3M stick-on bumps, although I haven't looked to see if they stock this exact model.
cheers, Martin
Posted on: 25 October 2000 by bob atherton
Thank you Rico!
It took me quite a few attempts to get the right foot for the Greenline.
Clear was best to my ears. Then of course there is the question of shape, I think you might
agree that a semi spherical shape makes more sense than a flat footprint.
The biggest difference I found was in the compliance of the foot.
Bob
( Feeling rather smug! )
Posted on: 25 October 2000 by Joe Petrik
Martin,
quote:
your comment re 30,000 minimum order implies the 5329, 5376 or 5745 products. It's not the 5329 or 5376 because they're clear. 5745 is too big.
The ones Mana sent me are 8mm diameter & 3mm high. This could only be 5076 on this list.
I haven't made a useful contribution to the forum since the fall of '97, so I resort to exaggeration and lame-ass jokes for posts.
But I think you're right: The 5076 is the only one that seems to fit the bill.
Joe
Posted on: 25 October 2000 by Martin Payne
quote:
It says here that the clear feet offers the best sonic dissapation.
Ah, but is dissipation what's needed?
I'm sure John Watson will tell you exactly why the feet work if you ask him nicely.
cheers, Martin
Posted on: 25 October 2000 by dave simpson
The correct part number is SJ5012, color is black. Sorry to let you guys suffer this long;)
FWIW, 3000 are at FEA and 3000 (on the way) to Pinner. How you finagle them is up to you !
I expect you to buy some Mana if you weasel these folks for free feet.
enjoy,
undercover dave
