Beer drinker FEPs (equivalent)

Posted by: Steve Toy on 19 February 2005

Flat Earth Beer Drinker Test.

Further to Joe Petrik's FEP test of about four years ago I propose the Flat Beer Drinkers test.

See how many Flat Beer Drinker Points (FBDPs) you notch up in the following test:

Drinking in the pub

Do you drink beer just to get drunk?

Yes -100

No +1

Do you ever choose your pub in part for the convivial atmosphere but also for the range and quality of beers served in there?

Yes +10

Do you ever go to places that serve only fizzy or creamy gnats piss just to get a late drink?

Yes -10

No +5 (There are (or should be) plenty of pubs that sell decent beer and do after-time lock-ins.)

Is it possible to hold a conversation in there? No -5

Do fights regularly take place in there or just outside at chucking out time? Yes -10

Do you drink beer purely for the taste?

Yes -100 for being a tosser.

No +1

When you go to the bar what do you generally ask for?

You may answer more than one of the following:

A pint of...

Lager -5

Bitter -3

(If there are only one of each available and you are a guest at a wedding reception or some other social gathering 0)

(Not specifying your brand of beer is a mortal sin in a flat beer world and slightly worse if you order lager.)

Stella -4

Carling -10

Fosters -8

Carlsberg -4

Budweiser(USA) -10

Kronenbourg 1664 0

Grolsch +1

Carlsberg Export -3

Staropramen +5

Pilsner Urquell +10

Velkopopovicky Kozel +10

Budvar/Budweiser(CZ) +10

Guinness 0

If you thought Guinness served in the UK was still brewed here -5

If you knew that all Guinness is now brewed in Dublin and you think it tastes better as a result -10

Any German beer not listed in the five below +12

Beck's 0

Holsten -1

Warsteiner +1

Kaltenberg -4

Bittburger +3

A German brand of wheat beer +50 (they are bloody hard to find on tap in the UK)

Hoegaarden +4

Leffe +4

Any imported draught Belgian beer not brewed by the Evil Empire +50

(If you thought draught Stella was imported from Belgium -50 for being a plonker, and ditto any of the following from their respective countries of origin in name only: Grolsch, Kronenbourg, Fosters, Budweiser (USA), Carlsberg.

Any real ale +30

Any guest ale or ale you haven't tried before +40

(Add another 20 points if you ask for a small free sample to taste first)

Any imported draught beer you haven't tried before +30

Do you ever have a dash of lime/black cordial or lemonade poured into your beer?

Yes -500 for being a wuss who would be better off drinking alcopops

If you think all imported beers are lagers -20

If you prefer a sparkler to deliver you a nice creamy head -15

(if the above is because you tend to sip your beer and drink it rather slowly and you know that the lasting creamy head will keep your beer fresh until the finish -5)

If you have ever had the balls to ask for the sparkler to be removed before your pint is poured without making yourself look an idiot +40

If you think creamflow bitters taste just as good or better than their cask equivalents when in good condition -50

If you can't tell the difference -60

If you order bottled beer, it is because...

you think the pipes aren't cleaned often enough +5

the cellar is poorly managed/dirty/at incorrect temperature/real ales often served before they are ready or past their best, or just taste shit for whatever reason caused by the licensee and/or his staff +10

they've got in stock some of your favourite imported beers from Belgium, Germany, Czech Republic or France that aren't available on draught +10

you don't ask for a glass and drink the beer straight out of the bottle -10

you drink the beer straight out of the bottle because you want other punters to see what you are drinking -25, and if you do so to impress women -50

you drink Stella, Carling, Fosters etc at £2 or more for a 33cl bottle when these are available on draught at £2.50 a pint or less (add 30p if in London, another big city or the Home Counties) , and you know (or aren't concerned) that they are neither watered down nor are the pipes dirty -100 for being an idiot.

If you always insist (politely) for a fresh, i.e: clean glass for each pint +5

(If the bartender is refusing to give you a fresh glass because it is after Last Orders/Time and you are lucky still to be served +5)

If you order the beer (that isn't more than 5.5% abv) to be served in a half pint glass -10

If a stem glass is ordered by you for a "lady" -20

Any beer successfully ordered after permitted Time that isn't Carling, Stella, Fosters, creamflow bitter etc +10

(Double the points for each full hour after permitted licensing hours for each pint consumed)

Beer At Home (yours or someone else's)

Do you buy canned or bottled beer?

Just bottles +10

Are those bottles cheap stubbies? Yes -10

Just cans -5

A bit of both +5

5 litre kegs of imported German beer +10

5 litre kegs of Boddingtons or Stella -10

Are the bottles versions of real ales or imported beers? Yes +10

(Stella isn't imported unless your mate is a lorry driver and he brings them in for you, in which case -5)

Do you have a collection of proprietary beer glasses and they are (mostly) in active use?

Yes +10, add 1 bonus point for every glass above 5 glasses

Add two points for each glass that you've imported yourself.

Deduct 10 points for each stolen one.

Do you always pour your beer into a glass?

Yes +5, add 5 bonus points if it is usually the proprietary glass, although deduct 5 points if it is a pish-lager brewed in the UK under licence glass.

No -10

Have you ever bought any of the following by the case?

Carling -20

Stella -15

Carlsberg -20

Carlsberg Export -15

Fosters -10

Kronenbourg 1664 (UK) 0

Kronenbourg 1664 (French domestic version) +5

Ales or imported beers +20

Guinness 0

Do you go on booze cruises and buy a selection of continental beers?

yes +50

For as many cases of stubbies as will fit in the car -50

the van -200

Do you buy beer from Majestic, Oddbins or some other outlet catering for the discerning beer drinker?

Yes +20

Kwiksave -10

Do you recycle your empties? (I don't mean piss in them.)

Yes +10
Posted on: 19 February 2005 by Deane F
Steve

No comment on the beer questions but nice work on the profile change. Looks like you have a post count of 45,902,000.

Which makes me look lazy.

Deane
Posted on: 19 February 2005 by Steve Toy
Is that my beer point count in combination with my post count? Confused

Other than my whereabouts, my profile remains pretty much unchanged since I joined this place four years ago - if you disregard the evolution of my hi-fi.
Posted on: 19 February 2005 by Deane F
I don't remember the "Just far enough from Brum" at the bottom of your posts in the old-new-forum (this being the new-new forum and the original being the old forum). However, my memory has been known to fail me.
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I haven't drunk anything from a can now for over two years, since they introduced the bloody deposit system over here.


Fritz Von Bottles taste better anyway, innit Big Grin
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Roy T
The Oxford Bottled Beer Database may help people to taste a few of those hard to find, exotic and esoteric brews that are worth a million FEPs each Razz
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by sideshowbob
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Toy:
Do you drink beer purely for the taste?

Yes -100 for being a tosser.

No +1


Presumably, unless you're some kind of beer evangelist bore, probably bearded, almost certainly heavily beer-gutted, liking the taste is the only reason for drinking beer. It's not as if it's a necessity for life, after all (unlike, say, a nice malt).

-- Ian
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Steve Toy
The old bearded beer drinking stereotyping chestnut.
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by sideshowbob
Indulge me, why does drinking beer because you like the taste make you "a tosser"?

-- Ian
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Nime
I'm frankly disappointed Steve. You didn't offer a points system for those "playing away".

The local supermarkets are recent vendors of a nice range of rather tasty British brews in largish glass bottles! All at around 5-6% and £3-4. Smile

And don't call me "a tosser"! It's bad enough Mick having a go at me after chucking-out time.
And I only mentioned his beer-gut once in passing! Winker

Nime
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Deane F
quote:
Originally posted by sideshowbob:
Indulge me, why does drinking beer because you like the taste make you "a tosser"?

-- Ian


I read that question to mean that one ought to be honest about the mind-altering-chemical aspect of beer drinking. Personally, I find the whole idea of drinking diluted solvents like ethyl alcohol slightly strange.

Deane
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by sideshowbob
Feel free to can read the question that way if you like, but it isn't what I meant.

Drinking alcohol is no stranger than many other things that human beings do, and considerably less strange than some other popular pastimes I can think of.

-- Ian
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Deane F
Ian

I see what you mean. I should probably have used a "wink" emoticon thingy but I try to let my writing express irony or humour. Reading my post over again I can see that any irony is deeply buried.

Deane
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Nime
A bit like iron-ore? Winker

Regards
Nime
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Lomo
Deane, who is this irony person you are always referring to?
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Deane F
In the words of the immortal Baldrick, irony is the same as goldy and silvery.
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Deane F
Quite a different beast from Steve Braunius' Local Iwi - who is a Wellington resident.
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Steve Toy
quote:
Indulge me, why does drinking beer because you like the taste make you "a tosser"?


It doesn't.

Does anyone drink beer purely for the taste?

quote:
I read that question to mean that one ought to be honest about the mind-altering-chemical aspect of beer drinking.


You read correctly.

Collecting beer FEPs is about having taste for beer with flavour. That is not to say that anyone drinks it purely for the taste.
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Deanne has an aversion to alcohol, I & apparently Steve do not ?


Fritz Von Beer is Wonderful³ Razz
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Steve Toy
Fritz,

I don't think he does.

This irony of his is somewhat layered...

quote:
Fritz Von Beer is Wonderful³


I'll drink to that!

Drinking imported Heineken in a proprietary Heineken glass.
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Cheers Sir, just knocking off my last Bud for the evening.
Posted on: 20 February 2005 by Steve Toy
Is that CZ or USA?
Posted on: 21 February 2005 by sideshowbob
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Toy:
Collecting beer FEPs is about having taste for beer with flavour. That is not to say that anyone drinks it purely for the taste.


If you aren't drinking it for the taste, why does its flavour matter?

What other reasons are there for drinking beer? "To get drunk" isn't a reason to drink beer, after all, rather than one of the many other alcoholic drinks available. So, why drink beer instead of something else, if it isn't for the taste?

Steve, admit it, by your own method you are, apparently, a tosser. As is any other beer drinker. A strange conclusion, but there you go.

-- Ian
Posted on: 21 February 2005 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Toy:
Is that CZ or USA?


I'm afraid I'll have to totally ignore that question me old china, and pretend that you never asked it !


Cheers, Fritz Von White Shield Razz
Posted on: 21 February 2005 by Steve Toy
Ian,

Everyone else but you accepts that beer drinking is about enjoying both the taste and the effect on your brain.

Someone who drinks only for the taste (and perhaps spits it out?) is clearly a tosser.

Conversely anyone who drinks just for the effect isn't going to appreciate beer that tastes nice.

Ian, I think you're trolling.

Fritz,

Methinks you just lost ten points instead of gaining ten points...
Posted on: 21 February 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Stop talkin, and sup lad, innit.


Fritz Von Time wasters Supreme Big Grin Just ignore, only you know whatz you like (hopefully)