My Joke has been moderated

Think yourself lucky -- Rodney Marsh got sacked for telling the same joke on telly this week.

Mmatthew

The unintelligent people who desperately want to look like they are politically correct strike again. Sadly.

I'm off to watch my tape of Jerry Springer the Opera again.

Jonathan

Ironic that this is deemed appropriate:

"Why is a Pork Pie like a pensioners minge ?

You have to bite off the crust and lick out the jelly before you get to the meat !"

Careful Tom. the last time I quoted verbatum from that thread to show my outrage, someone immediately got hold of the wrong end of the stick and accused me (at length) of being responsible for it.

But I completly agree with you. The thread in question should be deleted in total. It shits all over the AUP, is probably a Moderating nightmare, and is a very bad advert for Naim. A potential business loser IMO and a bomb waiting to go off should it be picked up, for example, by the lay press.

Cheers

Harry

It's hard to laugh at a joke that references a horific loss of life, kids being orphaned, already poor communities having their infrastructure completely erased and so on, and so on.

Plus it's a crap joke.

BOR

I think the thread should stay as it's an excellent means for newcomers to find out which posters are idiots, twats, bigots or some combination of all three.

Matthew

Yes Matthew. In that respect it is useful and has served me well. The question is, does Naim support the views expressed in the thread or is it just too big a Moderating job?

Cheers

Harry

I also can't see why one joke out of hundreds has been deleted.

Holocaust jokes anyone?

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Originally posted by Shayman:
Can anyone tell me why my David Beckham/Toon Army joke was removed from the Best Short Joke thread?

As it was quite clearly ribbing Beckham's intelligence and in no way making light of the recent disaster in the far east I don't see why it meritted the 'cull'.

Just wondered.

Jonathan

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To be honest John somebody sent me the very same joke from Aussie last week as a private e-mail, and I didn't quite understand it then, and I still don't now ? Hopefully I can be considered as open-minded and occassionally 'esoteric', in my sense of humour, and on this one I've obviously lost the plot somewhere, though remain confident that the adminstators that be have their good reasons for losing it, innit.

Fritz Von Moine'snottoreasonwhyasyouknow

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It's hard to laugh at a joke that references a horific loss of life, kids being orphaned, already poor communities having their infrastructure completely erased and so on, and so on.

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No, no, no, no, no no.

Shit as the joke is there is a world of difference between joking about someone's complete lack of intelligence about a 'sensitive' issue and making a joke ABOUT that 'sensitive' issue.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can surely see that. Hence my confusion about why the post was deleted. I find the joke referred to by Tom K is by far more controversial.

For example, by the same reasoning laughing at the racist vomiting WI lady on Little Britain is not the same as laughing at Bernard Manning making racist jokes. Similar as they may seem, we are laughing at the ignorance of a racist in one instance yet being encouraged to find racsism acceptable in the other.

Jonathan

Jonathan,

I'm going take a wild guess here but it's my feeling that your joke was deleted on the grounds of bad taste. And if you can't see how that joke might well be upsetting and/or offensive to people reading this forum (not least those who live in Asia where Naim has a strong following) then I presume that the irony of your defence that it cannot be upsetting as it's a joke about Beckham being stupid is rather lost on you.

There are other jokes in poor taste in that and you might well complain that, say, homophobic jokes are allowed to stay but yours was deleted, but that is a different issue.

Matthew

I agree the logic behind your post, Jonathon, and I wasn't suggesting you were being consciously insulting to the people who died in the disaster, but the mechanics of the joke (for me at least),rely on linking an image of "The Toon Army" with an image of the devastation/loss of life, with an image of a low IQ Beckham getting it wrong again.....

My problem is that once I get past the Tsunami imagery, I don't feel like laughing at anything, however good the punchline.

An more interesting discussion would be, do these jokes (Tsunami/Holocaust)become acceptable with the passing of time ? I suspect that yes, after a period of months/years we do become less sensitive to these events, rightly or wrongly.

Also back-up Matthew's view on not deleting the joke thread, 100%.

BOR

I think what tends to happen in this country, whenever there is a major disaster loss of life whether it be the Tsunami or 9/11

A lot of people tend to cope with the images and horror with black humour, it's a straight forward coping mechanism.

Having worked as a Psychiatric Nurse for many years and witnessing a lot of pain and suffering amongst the unfortunate people that were ill.

Black Humour was sometimes the only way to get through it, it may not be the best way but it was effective.

Regards
Clive

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Originally posted by Brian OReilly:
I agree the logic behind your post, Jonathon, and I wasn't suggesting you were being consciously insulting to the people who died in the disaster, but the mechanics of the joke (for me at least),rely on linking an image of "The Toon Army" with an image of the devastation/loss of life, with an image of a low IQ Beckham getting it wrong again.....

My problem is that once I get past the Tsunami imagery, I don't feel like laughing at anything, however good the punchline.

An more interesting discussion would be, do these jokes (Tsunami/Holocaust)become acceptable with the passing of time ? I suspect that yes, after a period of months/years we do become less sensitive to these events, rightly or wrongly.

Also back-up Matthew's view on not deleting the joke thread, 100%.

BOR

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I think that trying to analyse humour is a complete waste of time but:

the joke is about Beckham's mistaking the phrase "Toon Army" for "tsunami". A comment on his perceived intellect and a (poor) pun. You could as easily say he would not play for Switzerland because "A Swiss killed all those Jews".

You either find that funny or not. Equally you find it in poor taste or not. Either way it is your personal reaction. The teller is not responsible for how you choose to feel.

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But I completly agree with you. The thread in question should be deleted in total. It shits all over the AUP, is probably a Moderating nightmare, and is a very bad advert for Naim. A potential business loser IMO and a bomb waiting to go off should it be picked up, for example, by the lay press.

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That's a load of bollocks.

This is a forum and contributors should be seen to own their own posts.

Whilst racist and homophobic jokes shouldn't be accepted, the rest tend to play on irony or are just plain funny.

Certainly, sexist jokes usually work both ways...

In a politically correct world ALL jokes are unacceptable as the whole idea of laughter is just plain wrong.

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Originally posted by Steve Toy:
In a politically correct world ALL jokes are unacceptable as the whole idea of laughter is just plain wrong.

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Hey, Steve,

if you couldn't write "politically correct", what would you put ?

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if you couldn't write "politically correct", what would you put ?

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The problem would then be limited to a certain chain that sells computer hardware and software.

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Originally posted by Steve Toy:
The problem would then be limited to a certain chain that sells computer hardware and software.

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In an Apple world ALL jokes are unacceptable as the whole idea of laughter is just plain wrong ?

I can't see that working.

Steve Toy said "Whilst racist and homophobic jokes shouldn't be accepted"

Well that's odd becuase I noted early on that ther was a homophobic joke and you said it was "PC gone mad".

Mind you, you always say that so I'm not sure if it means anything in any partucular instance.

Matthew

I'm certan that was a cut and paste job.

There was a request to moderate. I looked at the post and didn't think it could be anyone's "best short joke". Sorry if it was your pride and joy.

The Joke thread potters along with a mix of the funny and laboured. Apparently random culls may apply.

Adam old Son ! I tink our Matt really wanted to say that without being seen as a 'Webel' would this particular 'joke' have been censored in pre-Groupee days ?

Fritz Von Besides the NAAFI I've never seen a pork pie in Germany trhios side of 25 years even though they love a bit of cracklin, and just about every connotation thereof, innit.

Cheers, Fritz Von Repeatin himself, brrrrrp:

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Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:

Fritz Von Besides the NAAFI I've never seen a pork pie in Germany this side of 25 years, innit.

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I'd consider it a great personal favour if pork pies were excluded from polite conversation here thankyou. Their absence in my own place of exile is still a sore loss to one who greatly enjoyed the occasional example at home.

Particularly the jelly.....but the glazed, short-crust pastry is not easily forgotten....the texture of the meat in the better class of pie as the sharp knife sinks slowly through the crust is worthy of mention......the resistance to the bite is crucial to......................................

I thought it was quite a funny joke, although I take Adam's point about it hardly being the best.

All "jokes" are at the expense of someone or something, and this one, as so many others, was at David Beckham's.

It had nothing to do with the tsunami and the devastating loss of life that was caused.

I suspect anyone who really found it offensive is very probably being outraged on behalf of others. And such outrage is decidedly misplaced.

I would think the people who really suffered as a result of the tsunami couldn't give a flying toss about David Beckham jokes on internet forums for rich people on the other side of the world and to suggest they might is insulting them far more than any word play joke.

Grow up and get your credit card out instead.

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I suspect anyone who really found it offensive is very probably being outraged on behalf of others. And such outrage is decidedly misplaced.

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A lot of PC extremism is based on nothing more than such outrage by proxy.

PC whisteleblowers are constantly on the lookout for things said or written that may (only theoretically) cause offence to somebody somewhere who may happen to belong to one of the key PC approved (TM) minority groups.