Is the CD format going the way of vinyl record?

Posted by: Chunny Nochubb on 20 January 2005

So asks The Times on page 3 today in response to their article reporting on the rise in downloading. p3 the times

My question is how far is the quality away from CD/vinyl/SACD/DVDA or whatever and should I use some of my expected lottery win budget on a hifi computer instead of soley on a CDS3?
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Mick P
Chunny

There are millions and millions of CD's floating around in the world, so buy your CDS3.

Regards

Mick
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Hawk
Chunny in short im with Mick, buy the CDS3!

I spent quite a bit of time trying to get a good hard drive setup and although you can get a very very good sound using separate DACs etc ultimately i found that i couldnt match the dynamics of the CDS3 or LP12... Im sure it will happen before long but if your numbers come up soon then CDS3 still takes the gold.. IMO...
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by seagull
When CDs were launched, I bought an LP12. I've still got it (albeit upgraded) and my record collection. I only bought a proper CD player a couple of years ago.

A CDS3 is on my wish list for the lottery win...
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Hawk
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A CDS3 is on my wish list for the lottery win...


maybe there should be a forum syndicate!! Eek
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Lomo
I read this, not in hifi mag, but ABC program guide "Limelight", which concentrates on the arts and music generally. An excellant magazine. This comes from an article explaining the difference in formats. Quote:
"About 18 months ago I paid A$600 for a Pioneer DV655A, handles both SACD and CD as well as DVD-video playback. An updated model the DV676A has since replaced this model at A$230. And as for the sound , SACD and DVD-A discs are totally luscious- warm and astonishingly life-like clarity, a world ahead of what is offered via standard CD.... This revolution promises to be as great as the switch from shellac 78 to LPs, or from vinyl to CD. The future is here and it sounds just great"
Now reading that you'd have to get your head read for sticking with CD and spending big bikkies.
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by J.N.
A friend with a high end Naim system, regularly gets his musical kicks from his i-pod plugged into his 52/500/DBL's.

Another friend with a similarly high end Naim system is putting a lot of music onto his personal music player. This will inevitably have the effect of not buying a lot of that music on CD (that he doesn't already have), because generally - the quality is good enough to enjoy it.

Is this the beginning of the end?

Us freaks demand the ultimate uncompressed sound quality of CD, but are there enough of us?

Sure; there have always been portable/low quality music carrying mediums such as cassettes, etc. but the point now is that the sound from an i-pod is pretty bloody good.

Will virtually all new music soon be made for this lowest common denominator?

Will all available music be pumped into a 'juke-box in the sky', from which we pay to download; onto our hard drive home system or i-pod portable device?

We currently have a generation who have become accustomed to (in the main) not paying for their music, because they can accept the level of replay quality that comes with this arrangement.

Money needs to be pumped into the system to keep the creativeness alive and marketed; or will musicians be happy to give it all away in the future?

Interesting times ahead.

John.
Posted on: 21 January 2005 by Nime
They are having a DAB radio week on Danish radio. They are admitting it doesn't sound as good as FM but it has replay buttons and lots more channels. I believe the suggestion was ten years before mere "CD sound quality" was reached.

A member of the Center for Future Research (or something similar) was wheeled in on the pretext of discussing DAB. He suggested we'd all have brain implants for our musical enjoyment in the future. Where we'd all get the "full works" without distortion or compression. Presumably we'd use the left ear as a volume knob and the one on the right for channel selection? Big Grin

Nime
Posted on: 21 January 2005 by JohanR
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Where we'd all get the "full works" without distortion or compression.


My guess is that pop music still will be distorded on purpose and compressed to reach through in the car...

JohanR
Posted on: 22 January 2005 by Lomo
What is happening to analogue broadcasting where digital is being introduced. Will it disappear one day?
Posted on: 23 January 2005 by Mike Hughes
One of those debates that perpetually amuses. Harsh reality is that sound quality is irrelevant to this particular debate because no-one buys anything in any great force unless it commands the whole market or is a ubiquitous format. SACD v DVD-A will never have a winner and thus, like DCC etc. will likely never be more than a niche product which will not have the choice of disks that they need to take over. Similarly with the various DVD recordable formats. No-one cares how good they are as a consumer. Ultimately, you just want to be able to record and know it'll be around a while.

Buy the CDS3. I had similar agonies getting a CDX2 and then XPS2 but I see no sign of CD dying as a format for at least another decade. It won;t matter if a killer comes along to replace it. It will only matter if manufacturers can agree a format. Only at that point will CD die.

In the meantime, all the stuff about which has the best quality etc. is about as relevant as arguing that Betamax was better than VHS.

Mike
Posted on: 23 January 2005 by Chunny Nochubb
My question had too many options for answers and should have read
"how close are downloadable formats to the types of formats such as Cds that are be placed in on or on machines"

J.N. looked at this as did the parallel Ipod thread.


and so I am afraid that the reference to the CDS3 was misleading as my numbers did not come up, (ought I to buy a ticket first?), and by conincidence in order to finishing this posting I have just had to cut short a man called David who telephoned and told me that he was the director of the prize winning line, so I have missed out there too.