Bl--dy Viruses

No, I get 3 or 4 email bearing virus attempts everyday. AVG zaps them immediately, and Zone Alarm stops any web based ones.

Me too, the various flavours of 'Bagle' seem to be the most commonplace at present. It is now becoming a serious problem, as all the traffic generated by these mass-mailing viruses is seriously clogging up the internet generally and slowing it down to not much more than a crawl.

I'm getting extremely pissed off with the witless morons who create this stuff. Long terms of imprisonment should be imposed on any who are caught, It's also time Microsoft took its security responsibilities more seriously and fixed the vulnerabilities in their software before they can be exploited by antisocial elements

David (very grumpy!)

I have been getting a steady stream of virus containing emails for weeks. I have also been getting occasional emails from people accusing me of sending them viruses or spam. No doubt they and I have been getting viruses from the same infected PC.

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Originally posted by David Stewart:
Long terms of imprisonment should be imposed on any who are caught

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Why waste money on the pathetic turds? Throw them in the ingress chute of a coal-fired power station and put some good back into the community. Same for rapists and bloody spammers.

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Make your choice, adventurous Stranger;
Strike the bell and bide the danger
Or wonder, till it drives you mad,
What would have followed if you had.

Nice to have you back to form Domf.

Sorry - I *hate* virus writers. They waste the air we breathe and mess up peoples' lives. Mind you, so do politicians, so I guess I should be more leniant?

Either way, the conspiracy theorists would say that viruses are written by virus companies... Hmmm...

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Make your choice, adventurous Stranger;
Strike the bell and bide the danger
Or wonder, till it drives you mad,
What would have followed if you had.

Domf,
It makes you wonder why such obviously talented people waste their time writing viruses when they could be doing something to help sociaty.I probably wouldn't stop you in your endevor to deal with the politicians. so my considered reply would be :- Why, Agreed, yes, and finaly ,Probably correct!
oldie.
ps just had a few more tonight,BAS--RDS!!!!!!!!

We get loads and loads of them, they arnt even clever.

'Please read the attached file' is about as complicated as it gets.

Makes no difference to me anyway.

why is the word "bloody" often dashed out on this board? It's not as bad as "fucking" is it? or is it?

Judd

Judd, 30+ years ago, "bloody" was considered almost as offensive as "f%*$&%". I still find it offensive because I see blood every time I see or hear the word, and I can't stand the sight of blood. It's the same with "sh*&" - I see and smell a steaming pile of it, fresh from the horse/cow/whatever - disgusting.

Here's the virus-containing message that just arrived:

Hello user of Co.uk e-mail server,

Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing
from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up
your computer software.

Further details can be obtained from attached file.

For security reasons attached file is password protected. The password is "03506".

Best wishes,
The Co.uk team http: //www.co.uk

Judd,
it's part of my up bring'ing I afraid,I'm not to keen with the rest of the expletives either. I'm a great believer that if you hit your thumb with a large hammer the words,
"golly gosh" doesn't help very much, andthen the bloodys etc. can and do tend to turn the air Blue but apart from these occasions theres no real need. The ------ are just a cheats way out.
oldie.

Hmm - I dunno why I swear either; conditioning I suppose...

I had a TON of emails from techtronics today (not used them in ages!) - about 44 of them. All scanned and cleaned by our firewall at work, but interesting that they should all come from the one site multiple times...

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Don't wanna be cremated or buried in a grave
Just dump me in a plastic bag and leave me on the pavement
A tribute to your modern world, your great society
I'm just another victim of your highrise fantasy!

I regularly get email bearing virus attempts . Fortunately AVG stops them immediately , but they are a pain in the arse.

The only way to stop some oik sending out viruses is to impose very long prison sentences. The reality is that the chances of them being caught are slim, however, when one of them is convicted I would suggest a minimum of 20 years.

These viruses are costing industry millions and the culprits should be made to suffer as a deterrent to others.

No mercy should be shown.

Regards

Mick

Hi Mick,
nice to see your still watching over, but you forgot the flogging and hanging bit
oldie.

Mick, virus writers are a damn nuisance and that's a fact, but let's save our prison space for murderers and rapists. If everyone had firewalls and virus checkers in place and up to date,and didn't moronically click on unknown attachments there wouldn't be a problem. Better still Microsoft should design in security, not add it as an afterthought.

I have full protection and have never suffered as a result.

However the cost of protecting the millions of PC's around the world must be enormous. All because some spotty faced oik wants to mess about for the fun of it.

Creating and sending out a virus is akin to criminal damage.

Regards

Mick

I agree Mick, "creating and sending out a virus is akin to criminal damage."

As you say Jez, "If everyone had firewalls and virus checkers in place and up to date, and didn't moronically click on unknown attachments there wouldn't be a problem."

I suggest forum users go to http://www.wilders.org/

This website enables you to download various programs such as :

AVG Antivirus
Spybots - Search and Destroy
Spyware Blaster
Zonealarm Firewall

All are worth having and using.

[This message was edited by Peter C on Mon 22 March 2004 at 13:19.]

Dear Mick said

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These viruses are costing industry millions and the culprits should be made to suffer as a deterrent to others.

No mercy should be shown.

Regards

Mick

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I agree totally, albeit with a couple of caveats.

Firstly, they are WINDOWS viri, not computer viri.

Secondly, if a particular corporation known in various circles as 'Big Red' hadn't indulged in heinous business practices such as to arouse the ire of the 'plebs', the hapless users of Big Reds products wouldn't in turn be the victims of that backlash.

Big Red is not exactly loved y'know.

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Creating and sending out a virus is akin to criminal damage.

Regards

Mick

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Big Red was the object of complaint, in the first order by the US govt. and by various states thereof, all seeking criminal damage via uncompetitive business practices, and general naughtiness.

However, owing to their bottomless pit of money, and the apparent unwillingness of the US courts to swat one of their shining stars, especially as so much of their infrastructure runs on Big Reds products, they basically got away with a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket.

Of course one could always sidestep the Windows virulent viri' problem, and use something sensible for an OS, like Linux. Oh, and did I mention its an operating system that runs on a computer. It's just not windows.

You know you can do it Mick. Lets face it, you're an individual of high taste, and immeasurable discernment. Somehow mentioning Leica, Briks, Naim and windows in the same sentence just doesn't seem right.

Cheerfully yours

The devils advocate

John....

Populist thinking exalts the simplistic and the ordinary

Mick, I wasn't having a dig at you, I understand your anger, and share it. I was just saying that in the grand scheme of skullduggery it ranks as a damn nuisance, not a capital crime.

I knew you wasn't having a dig at me but my point is that viruses are costing the IT world millions in terms of money and time.

Also an infected PC is a serious problem for a novice user, so collectively they are more than a nuisance.

Regards

Mick

John's Naim -- You are of course absolutely right, 14 year-old schoolboys in Manilla are so angered by MS's flagrant violation of anti-trust statutes they are driven to unleash deadly virii on the world.

Mick -- This one'll scare you.

Phatbot primed to steal your credit card details

By electricnews.net

Posted: 21/03/2004 at 22:05 GMT

A Trojan horse-type computer virus called Phatbot can steal credit card numbers and launch denial of service attacks on Web sites.

The new virus made its debut on the Internet on Friday (18 March), clogging bandwidth, stealing personal data and initiating denial of service attacks.

Phatbot is a variant of a Agobot, a big family of IRC bots. It can steal personal information such as email addresses, credit card numbers, PayPay details and software licensing codes. It forwards this information using a peer-to-peer (P2P) network, rather than IRC channels exploited by its predecessors. Earlier versions of the bug go by monikers such as Phat, Backdoor.Agobot.fo and Gaobot, according to F-Secure.

Phatbot can also kill any anti-intrusion devices and give people a false sense of security in order to get inside a network and exploit vulnerabilities, F-Secure says.

Phatbot inserts backdoors which can be used to perform distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks aimed at shutting down Web sites including those of German Internet hosting company Schlund, US telecoms firm XO and Stanford University. The bug also terminates processes belonging to competing malware such as MSBlast.

F-Secure notes that the code running behind Phatbot indicates that this version was not made by the original Agobot backdoor author TheAgo, but by a different writer who got the source code of this backdoor.

"Phatbot is causing quite a bit of stir over here," said Conor Flynn, technical director of US e-security company Rits. "The US Department of Homeland Security sent a number of companies an emergency release about the worm which was then leaked anonymously to The Washington Post," he told ElectricNews.Net. The potential impact of Phatbot on users is much bigger than with previous worms and viruses ,vecause it can harvest passwords, product registration codes and credit card numbers and then send this information back to the authors, he said.

So far, Phatbot infections are limited and some e-security companies are still rating it low-to-medium risk, Flynn says. "However, once a critical mass builds, especially through its use of other backdoors left open, Phatbot is really going to become a problem."

Phatbot can also end standard security processes run by anti-virus programs and firewalls, according to Niall Browne, security architect at Entropy, an Irish Internet security company. "This Agobot variant is not that malicious in that it won't delete files," he said.

"What is interesting are the 600 processes that it can affect once it is inside a network," he said. "It exploits well known ports but once it is inside a network it may not get out again because of the particular ports that it is using and because of that it is fairly easy to contain."

© ElectricNews.Net

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/36414.html

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Bl...dy Spam

Can someone recommend an anti-spam programme which filters these pests prior to downloading them?

I did try Mailwasher, which some on this forum recommended. However, I could not get it to work. The programme I subsequently installed does filter presumed spam into a separate file, but this is after paying the local telco to download hundreds of these per week.

Cheers,

Steven

1. Change your e-mail address.

2. Never, ever, ever, type it into the Internet.

3. For all signups and discussion boards use a fake web based e-mail.

That's it. In the last year I have had a handful of spam messages which are all of the educatedguess@yourdomain.com variety and get auto-deleted.

I actually get more spam on the Unofficial Naim FAQ where I have to delete regular bot posted spam links to penis enlargement sites.

Matthew

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Firstly, they are WINDOWS viri, not computer viri.

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John, virus is not the type of noun that takes the standard masculine -i plural. I guess the plural (which doesn't exist in classical Latin, apparently) would be *virus, too. *viri is a non-existent word.

So it makes sense to anglicise it into viruses.

Herman