Royal (?) wedding (?)

Chas wants to keep it low key....

...so he invites 700 guests!

I am not so sure...

It would not surprise me if one of the Royals, and I am sure you will be able to guess who, will involve the use of a helicopter for this event.

[quote]This incompetence has got to be the final nail.[/q uote]

No way!! The British Royal familiy is a fun fair for the rest of the world!
We thank the UK and their generous British taxpayers for their contribution to a more entertaining world.

The Royal family must stay.

There you are - the counter argument to stop dead those arguing that the Royal Family should be abolished!

Now all we need to do is ensure that every other country contributes to the upkeep of the Royal Family.

Let those who wish this circus to carry on in all of it's Manifestations pay for it,Its time that this outdated hierarchal institution was scrapped. We are now expected to welcome with open arms in the not to distant future as possibly head of both Church and State an adulter and all the baggage that goes with this title. As a family,both historically and at the present, they are a parasitical,over privliged,arrogant, racist and completly out of touch with reality group, that has caused more damage to this Country abroad by their comments than we can afford.If they wish to get married,fine, but not at our expense, and please no comments about how Charlie and his mum are paying for it them selves,I don't remember anything about them doing any extra overtime at Marks. or Asda.
oldie.

Rasher and Oldie,

There was a time when you would have found yourself in the Tower of London for such comments. They would have been viewed as treason and yourselves traitors to the Crown. Be happy that the Royals have no such power nowadays - or do they still?

Brad

You've got to admit that it's funny though. I nearly wet myself when I heard yesterday that her maj isn't going. I can't believe that it has got so cocked up. It's so cocked up, I almost feel sympathy. Almost..

Now that the Queen has said that she won't be attending the event (is it to be in a registry office?) its become a bit farcical.

Still, Charles and Camilla can't wipe the grin off their faces in every publicity shot or footage I've seen of them since the announcement so I'm happy for them. I'm glad I'm not part of the world they seem to live in though.

Deane

I think its quite simple, if he wants a civil wedding to a commoner then he should become one himself. I personally think he should be made to choose between the throne or his mistress. He shouldn't be allowed to have it all.

I don't believe the general public want Camilla to be their Queen and the ignorance and arrogance of Charles has put the monarchy in a very difficult position.

I personally think our Queen should not attend the wedding, a civil wedding in a registery office, even if it is her son.

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Originally posted by oldie:
.... and please no comments about how Charlie and his mum are paying for it them selves,I don't remember anything about them doing any extra overtime at Marks. or Asda.
oldie.

That's the problem. To them it's THEIR money - they just let the rest of us borrow it in small quantities from time to time. The fact that it's actually OUR money doesn't even enter into it. How can you make an inbred retard understand such a complex argument?

Cheers

Harry

Harry,

You can't make him understand he is so distanced from his people. He hasn't got a clue about real life and how this country operates.

Doesn't this farcicle charade prove that?

Yeah, but no, but yeah, but no, but.....isn't it nice that a couple of old chinless simple twits can be in love and against all the odds want to get married like this. Despite who they are, I'm pleased for them. They're probably better off without the Queen anyway.

Don't get me wrong I am very happy for them as individuals. Everyone should have the right to love someone.

I don't believe he should be allowed to become king if he marries her, whats good enough for Edward....!

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Originally posted by HTK:

That's the problem. To them it's THEIR money - they just let the rest of us borrow it in small quantities from time to time. The fact that it's actually OUR money doesn't even enter into it. How can you make an inbred retard understand such a complex argument?

Cheers

Harry

Probably by using the same methods to make them understand, as their fore fathers[ except in the case of our lot who originated from Germany and Greece]used to obtain the wealth they have accumulated.

Brad,
Don't ever kid your self that this lot and those in whose interst it is to keep the status quo don't have the power to do as they wish, just witness what the Home Sectary is doing at the moment, against all civil libertys, and human rights issues, also coming from your neck of the woods you will have witnessed this kind of unjust and illegal power at first hand.
oldie.

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Originally posted by NB:
You can't make him understand he is so distanced from his people. He hasn't got a clue about real life and how this country operates.

Of course he understood pretty well when he was criticizing the architecture of the high rise 'modern' housing that our elected governments were building while they demolished the old-fashioned terraced houses and the communities and lifestyles that went with them.

There are valid arguments both for and against having a royal family. However, strip this thread of the envy that it's dripping with and you won't find many of them here.

Regards
Steve M

and I will bet he hasn't heard Seventh Veil loudspeakers, the man just hasn't lived!

Rasher & NB,
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against two people who wish to, getting married, it's a institution I have enjoyed for 40 years. I just don't want to pay for it and all the hangers on that come with enlarging a already, in my opinion,out dated, parasitical,hierarchal institution. The only saving grace is , is that fortunately, they are now [I hope] to old to breed
oldie.

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The only saving grace is , is that fortunately, they are now [I hope] to old to breed

Thats not even worth thinking about. To think their child could inherit its mothers or fathers looks Yuk!

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just don't want to pay for it and all the hangers on that come with enlarging a already, in my opinion,out dated, parasitical,hierarchal institution

I agree We have already paid for one wedding for him, why should we pay for another?

Steve,
It's not envy I have a problem with, I'm quite happy with my life.It's justice I would like to see.The amount of money this Country wastes on that family and it's hangers on each year, not to mention the wealth that has historically been stolen from its people would provide enough Hospitals,Schools, homes for the homeless,Pensions for those that have had to work all of there lives that the people of the 4th richest Country in the world should have .Not the poverty that the Aged, The homeless and the waiting lists that the sick have to endure.As I stated earler in this thread,if you want to keep a monarchy, thats fine by me. We live, allegedly in a Democracy and I for one do not remember getting a vote on this issue,I have no objections to those that wish to keep the monarchy, paying for it, it's just,that, I do not wish to.
oldie.

To be honest, I'm not particularly bothered one way or the other about the royal family, although I like to play devil's advocate and hate anything that smells even slightly of envy. Anyway, as I said before, surely all private property is theft and the royal family are no worse in this respect than the Duke of Westminster and many, many, many others.

We're not about to get a socialist revolution in the UK and I'm not sorry for that.

I've just been reading about an Iranian man who's been sentenced today to 14 years imprisonment for 'spying and aiding foreign counter-revolutionaries'. His actual crime was to criticize the arrest of some Iranian bloggers.

I'm sure that posting on a forum like this would be considered blogging and, if anti-royal posts here were punishable by 14 years in an Iranian prison, I suspect that this would be a pretty short thread.

Not that I'm advocating that as a solution, although ...

Seriously, don't you think that many Iranians would welcome back their own royal family if they could?

Yes, yes, I know there are other perfectly fine democratic systems in the world other than monarchy but they're not that perfect and the British system isn't that bad either.

Regards
Steve M

PS: Don't we pay considerable taxes to cover the cost of building new hospitals, etc.? Remind me, how many new hospitals have been built in London since the welfare state was introduced?

PPS: Nigel, shhh, not here.

ps,
Steve,
I think you will find that it was the Local Councils [ a non elected body] and not the elected Goverment that pulled down the, in most cases, squallid, back to back, out side toilets, no bath rooms, over crowded, two up two down housing and provided what was thought at that time, the best possible alternative. The irony is of course, that whilst in some working class areas the high rise blocks were vandalised and due to this mindless act ,eventually pulled down,
when eventualy those areas became gentrified the same remaining high rise blocks became extremely desirable and commanded very high prices. No, he knows as much about Architecture as he does about the way the rest of the world lives, to quote an old adage, The Royals think that the world smells of new paint.
oldie.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 7V:
I've just been reading about an Iranian man who's been sentenced today to 14 years imprisonment for 'spying and aiding foreign counter-revolutionaries'. His actual crime was to criticize the arrest of some Iranian bloggers.

I'm sure that posting on a forum like this would be considered blogging and, if anti-royal posts here were punishable by 14 years in an Iranian prison, I suspect that this would be a pretty short thread.

Not that I'm advocating that as a solution, although ...

Some of us are old enough to have had a taste of that kind of big Brother mentality, in the 70's during the Right to Work Marches we had phones tapped,Photographs taken, were Black listed, fell on to police truncheons, boots and fists,trampled and stood on by their horses. Remember the scenes at Wopping and the Pit Heads.No it's not 14 years but it's the same kind of mentality that those that want to keep the Status Quo, harbour.
Why should the Iranians want to replace one[religious] dictator with another, especially when it is the family they have already rid themselves of
Don't you remember Private Eye's "The Shit of Iran" spoof, a friend of the West, certainly, but not the population of Iran.
A considerable number of new Hospitals have been built in London in the last few decades , but not for the general population of London of course, it's the same strata of our society that we have the example of in this thread, that benifit from these Hospitals, they wouldn't know what a waiting list was.
oldie.

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Originally posted by oldie:
A considerable number of new Hospitals have been built in London in the last few decades , but not for the general population of London of course, it's the same strata of our society that we have the example of in this thread, that benifit from these Hospitals, they wouldn't know what a waiting list was.

Oh come on now. Miliions and millions of £££ have gone through the NHS and millions and millions of £££ have been wasted. No new NHS hospitals in London since before the war, many others closed? What a system.

Regards
Steve M