loft extension...

Posted by: ken c on 26 May 2004

we are thinking seriously about doing up our loft for extra room. however, the builder who came said that we would probably lose a substantial portion of one of the bedrooms in order to accomodate the stairs to the extension -- which of course is negating the benefit of extending in the first place.

sorry is this has been covered before, but do any of you guys have tricks up your sleeve for access to the loft extension without losing a lot of room on the 1st floor?? any references?

thanks for your help in advance...

enjoy

ken
Posted on: 31 May 2004 by ken c
quote:
Originally posted by trickytree:
Ken,

Another small thing to consider is that if you use a ladder to gain access to the loft you can not describe the room as a bedroom if you ever come to sell the property. To be classed as a bedroom it must have a permanment staircase.

Paul.


paul, many thanks. your are the second person to mention this -- we considered using a loft ladder (a better and sturdier one, just so that we dont lose any room on existing 1st floor) but we have more or less given up on this idea. time call a friendly architect, and oen or two friendly builders. 1st builder who came said we would lose half of the existing 2nd bedroom. pah!!

enjoy

ken
Posted on: 01 June 2004 by dave brubeck
Ken C,

Lots of good advice here. As an architect, I would obviously suugest that you employ an architect from the word go.

The Architect should be impartial between yourself (the Client) and the Contractor, and will serve to protect you from any 'cowboys'.

Whilst it is not cheap to employ an architect, it will most probably save you money in the long term.

Please note that many other people in the Building trade will love to slag off architects, as it is part of our job to 'hassle' others to ensure that you the Client gets a good job done including getting value for money.

Any questions send me a PT.
Posted on: 01 June 2004 by dave brubeck
And to Mr Cliff Patterson:

"However generally speaking architects know bugger all about planning regulations, fire regulations and civil engineering"

I would have to state my complete disagreement with the above.

1. In most projects like yours, it is our job to liaise with the planning department to ascertain what can and cannot be built and advise the client accordingly, and seek the necessary approvals.

2. Fire regulations are part of the general Building regulations and you will find a copy of these in every architect's office. There wouldn't be much point in submitting a design to the local authorities for approval if it was not in general accordance with current regulations. Just a slight waste of time.

3. Civil Engineering? All RIBA qualified architects have a basic knowledge of structural engineering, however we usually employ a qualified civil engineer to do the sums and calculate joist sizes etc. Local councils will usually require a chartered engineer to certify the integrity of the structural design.

Sure, you don't HAVE to use an architect. But this is what we spent 7 years training to do.

Then of course, if you need an operation you don't HAVE to use a surgeon.
Posted on: 01 June 2004 by dave brubeck
Cliff,

Planning consultancy, yes, by all means for large projects, but i certainly wouldn't employ them at the 'top of the pyramid'. Better off with a hard as f**k ass-kicking GOOD project manager.

I'll let you off though because:

1. It appears you had the sense to get out of the construction game and pursue a more lucrative career.

2. You have a better hifi than myself and at the end of the day that's what it all boils down to.

Dave vonbrubeckimanarchitectandevenihatethem
Posted on: 01 June 2004 by dave brubeck
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