Music Collector Database Queries

Posted by: Ron Brinsdon on 06 October 2004

My first databases were done on an old Sinclair "Spectrum" (which ages me) and have changed via the usual Lotus,Excel etc to the product above which I purchased last week after reading this forum and am very pleased with.

For checking rarity values, I have always included full catalogue numbers and on vinyl releases this was easy as there would usually be a distinct label and number. On CD however things are not so clear. The searching facilities in Music Collector are excellent but do not pick up these numbers so they are entered manually via the edit screen and I am not so sure which are the unique identifiers ie:-

King Crimson (CD) "Larks Tongues" shows CDVKC5 AND 7243 8 44070 2 5. The "CDVKC5" reference is obvious but what does the 7243 etc mean? I have been told that this serial is a conbination of country, label and release issue - could someone shed some light please - just as a further complication is the record label Virgin or EG records?.

When I was just entering my purchases into excel as I bought them this was no problem but having started entering the entire collection into the new database it is a frustrating task especially as there is not an export from excel facility.

Your experience will be appreciated

Thanks

Ron
Posted on: 06 October 2004 by Ron Brinsdon
Thanks Tom,

When I get more time I will start googling or search on the MuC forum for the other codes.

Ron
Posted on: 06 October 2004 by BigH47
Ron is this any help?

What's a UPC Bar Code?
"UPC" stands for Universal Product Code. UPC bar codes were originally created to help grocery stores speed up the checkout process and keep better track of inventory, but the system quickly spread to all other retail products because it was so successful.
UPCs originate with a company called the Uniform Code Council (UCC). A manufacturer applies to the UCC for permission to enter the UPC system. The manufacturer pays an annual fee for the privilege. In return, the UCC issues the manufacturer a six-digit manufacturer identification number and provides guidelines on how to use it. You can see the manufacturer identification number in any standard 12-digit UPC code, Sample code 639382000393

You can see that the UPC symbol printed on a package has two parts:
• The machine-readable bar code
• The human-readable 12-digit UPC number
BYG Publishing's manufacturer identification number is the first six digits of the UPC number -- 639382. The next five digits -- 00039 -- are the item number. A person employed by the manufacturer, called the UPC coordinator, is responsible for assigning item numbers to products, making sure the same code is not used on more than one product, retiring codes as products are removed from the product line, etc. In general, every item the manufacturer sells, as well as every size package and every repackaging of the item, needs a different item code. So a 12-ounce can of Coke needs a different item number than a 16-ounce bottle of Coke, as does a 6-pack of 12-ounce cans, a 12-pack, a 24-can case, and so on. It is the job of the UPC coordinator to keep all of these numbers straight!
The last digit of the UPC code is called a check digit. This digit lets the scanner determine if it scanned the number correctly or not. Here is how the check digit is calculated for the other 11 digits, using the code 63938200039 from "The Teenager's Guide to the Real World" example shown above:
1. Add together the value of all of the digits in odd positions (digits 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11).
6 + 9 + 8 + 0 + 0 + 9 = 32
2. Multiply that number by 3.
32 * 3 = 96
3. Add together the value of all of the digits in even positions (digits 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10).
3 + 3 + 2 + 0 + 3 = 11
4. Add this sum to the value in step 2.
96 + 11 = 107
5. Take the number in Step 4. To create the check digit, determine the number that, when added to the number in step 4, is a multiple of 10.
107 + 3 = 110
The check digit is therefore 3.
Each time the scanner scans an item, it performs this calculation. If the check digit it calculates is different from the check digit it reads, the scanner knows that something went wrong and the item needs to be rescanned.

Result of A "Google" on "UPC codes on CDs"

Howard
Posted on: 06 October 2004 by Ron Brinsdon
Thanks Howard,

after a less than memorable day of numbers-related activities, I will take your (googles) word for it that all UPC's will be unique.

For my catalogue purposes I will use the record label number if shown

Ron
Posted on: 06 October 2004 by BigH47
Ron if you look at the catalogue number it forms part of the bar code.
Eg Bon Jovi Crush record number 542 562-2 bar code 7314 5425622 3.

Howard