Active Credos ? upgrade advice needed.

Pierre,

Get yourself a Supercap.

Then eventually upgrade the 72 to a 52.

Then get your 250(s).

Alternatively, go analogue.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
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Andrew

Thank you for your response

I just checked your profile

Why do you think I should go analogue?

Regards P.

Pierre,

I haven't written it in my biography, but I have a Linn Basik + K9. Analogue still represents better value for money on a sound for pound basis.

Also, got to add my new NAC 72 to my bio.

Andrew

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Pierre,

I reckon it's either an 82 or a SuperCap.

72/SuperCap should be a lot better than 72/HiCap, but I suspect 82/HiCap is better. The only comparable experience I have is of a 72 powered through input 2 of a 52/52PS which was better, but not mind-blowing. Bear in mind the 52PS is not as good, and the 52 was also loading the PS.

I suspect the only way to justify a 72/Super is as a one-stop pathway to a 52. If you are buying second hand I reckon the path is 82>Super>52 as you won't lose much selling the 82.

I will throw one other (very serious) suggestion into the ring - try a 112.

cheers, Martin

Hi Pierre,

Some months ago I ugraded my CDX/72/Hi/140/Credo system by adding an IXO and another 140. The music became tighter and the Credos now sound a bit more projective. Slam increased only very little to my ears. The change was nothing like upgrading from a CD3.5 to the CDX, for instance. In retrospect, I think should have gotten a better pre- or power amp instead.

So in your case a preamp upgrade would probably be the wiser choice. Active is pretty cool, but I don’t think it’s as cost effective as other upgrades – something for later, maybe, like when you win the lottery.

Thomas

Pierre, My vote is for the 82.
of course, I can't tell you why ; )

Rico - musichead

[This message was edited by Rico on MONDAY 06 November 2000 at 11:14.]

Pierre, it really depends on what your final aspirations are, is it a fully loaded system or a happy medium.

For me swapping from a 102 to 82 was'nt enough, but the active IXO just worked a treat and was by far one of the best upgrades to date…

For you, the IXO/180 is the cheapest option, the Snaxo version nearly double, and the 82/hicap even more than that…

Take a good long demo, I think you'll like the IXO Active option, but figure out where you want to STOP, otherwise you'll end up losing out in p/ex's

Otherwise you seem to like your system – SO LEAVE IT – fight the disease, buy loads of CDs instead…

Active vs. Passive: In an active system a Snaxo or IXO electronic crossover divides the audio spectrum into two or three separate frequency bands, depending on the loudspeaker type employed.
The crossover is connected between the pre-amplifier and power amplifiers. Each power amplifier is then connected directly to the appropriate loudspeaker drive unit, and only handles one frequency band. This allows better control of the drive unit resulting in more accurate music reproduction. As there is no passive crossover no amplifier power is wasted and information loss is minimised.
The great potential possessed by an active system demands not only source components of the very highest quality but also for them to be perfectly matched and installed.
The Snaxo 3-6 is our three-way, 18dB/octave fixed frequency crossover, and the Snaxo 2-4 is its two-way equivalent. Crossover frequencies are defined by a series of active filters, designed with particular attention to transient handling, which must be matched to the loudspeaker system with which the crossover is to be used.
The IXO is designed primarily for use with our Intro and Credo loudspeakers, providing a highly cost-effective route into active system operation.

naheed...

Pierre, it really depends on what your final aspirations are, is it a fully loaded system or a happy medium.

For me swapping from a 102 to 82 was'nt enough, but the active IXO just worked a treat and was by far one of the best upgrades to date…

For you, the IXO/180 is the cheapest option, the Snaxo version nearly double, and the 82/hicap even more than that…

Take a good long demo, I think you'll like the IXO Active option, but figure out where you want to STOP, otherwise you'll end up losing out in p/ex's

Otherwise you seem to like your system – SO LEAVE IT – fight the disease, buy loads of CDs instead…

Active vs. Passive (from naim website):
In an active system a Snaxo or IXO electronic crossover divides the audio spectrum into two or three separate frequency bands, depending on the loudspeaker type employed.

The crossover is connected between the pre-amplifier and power amplifiers. Each power amplifier is then connected directly to the appropriate loudspeaker drive unit, and only handles one frequency band. This allows better control of the drive unit resulting in more accurate music reproduction. As there is no passive crossover no amplifier power is wasted and information loss is minimised.

The great potential possessed by an active system demands not only source components of the very highest quality but also for them to be perfectly matched and installed.

The Snaxo 3-6 is our three-way, 18dB/octave fixed frequency crossover, and the Snaxo 2-4 is its two-way equivalent. Crossover frequencies are defined by a series of active filters, designed with particular attention to transient handling, which must be matched to the loudspeaker system with which the crossover is to be used.

The IXO is designed primarily for use with our Intro and Credo loudspeakers, providing a highly cost-effective route into active system operation.

naheed...

To Andrew Randle - Can you suggest which analogue turntable might give me more enjoyment and sound so much better than my CDS2 - Cost equivalent please (inclusive of replacing appx 500 CDs and finding pristine copies of my favourite vinyl- appx 1000).

To Martin Payne - I hadn't thought of supercapping the 72 and I will endeavour to try a home demo. Thanks for suggesting the route.

To Thomas Kunzler - Thanks very much for your informative post Thomas. I will bear your comments in mind before deciding.

To Rico - Hahaha- nice one and touche. I'll trade you my Beginners Guide to Naim Plug Soldering for your help on this one- Russ Andrews wasn't interested in my business plan - Ah well.

To Naheed - Thanks for the info and your reasoning
and congrats on managing to copy the Naim Product Info Page into the Forum - Cool

Thanks again all

Regards.P.