Michael Howard & The Tao of Toy

Posted by: matthewr on 26 August 2004

You know I was genuinely begin to think that maybe with the whole starting random wars, cocking up the anti-terrorism thing and backing danegerous extreme right wing governements in north America, Blair could actually lose the next election for Labour.

Then Howard falls though a timewarp to the 80s and starts talking about imaginary bans for daisy chains and musical chairs and how it's all "political corrrectness gone mad".

I mean how can an obvisouly intelligent man be that stupid?

Matthew
Posted on: 28 August 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Whils't reading a letter from my Mother yesterday I was amused as well as
saddenned to see that some things never change. Living in a part of London/Essex that's always been serious Tory territory (and still is) she told me of a recent event involving the next planned generation of a local Bingo Hall, which before that had been a picture house, and no doubt before that had been a Music Hall of some kind ? Local Asian's had intended to buy it and turn the place into a Mosque, which subsequently brought down local wrath to bear for this reason and that, never publically stating the real reason on PC grounds you understand, bur
inevitably winning their case and halting the Mosque transistion, naturally in
a fully Democratic Way ?
My Mum's point being that the local White community
through their usual ignorance and bigotry had got their way, and the place has
now recently opened as an Elim Pentacostal Church, most of the Conregation of
which it seems are of Afro-Carib extraction, so she had a good laugh there, and
I did too, innit.

Fritz Von Postalvotingforafairerlickleengland Big Grin
Posted on: 28 August 2004 by JeremyD
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin-W:
The complete intellectual bankruptcy of the Tories has been demonstrated over the past couple of weeks by their pitiful attempts to rally public opinion (or at least the Mail/Express-reading section of it) with two campaigns – the one on “political correctness” which Matthew mentioned; and the other, on “human rights legislation” and the “compensation culture” which results from said legislation.

Is it just me, but isn’t the idea of human rights quite a good thing? I mean, the right to life, the right to privacy, to freedom of movement, etc? Isn’t it quite a good thing to have those principles enshrined in law? In fact, the amount of compensation paid out in human rights cases is quite small, and not very much higher than in the days before the Human Rights Act. Similarly, the more extreme cases that get trumpeted in the reactionary Press usually get thrown out.
As long as they master the art of saying things in a calm, authoritative tone, it seems they can get away with such claims with little direct questioning from even the non-reactionary media...

Contrast this with Tony Blair's almost apologetic/pleading tone when trying to explain something to TV interviewers (this applies to 1997 just as much as the "post Iraq" period).

Since the thread seems to be drifting somewhat, perhaps it would be OK to ask this admittedly tangential question about the Human Rights Act:

What if parliament passed a law that a Judge declared incompatible [is that the right term?] with the Human Rights Act. As I understand it, parliament would be obliged to vote on its repeal. Suppose the law was not repealed - what then?

[This message was edited by JeremyD on Sat 28 August 2004 at 13:00.]
Posted on: 28 August 2004 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by JeremyD:
What if parliament passed a law that a Judge declared incompatible [is that the right term?] with the Human Rights Act. As I understand it, parliament would be obliged to vote on its repeal. Suppose the law was not repealed - what then?


Then I suppose on another day another judge may rule it IS in line with the Human Rights Act, and so on and so forth. After all isn't that why we have courts of law, so judges can decide such matters?

Regards,

JonR
Posted on: 28 August 2004 by Alex S.
Steven, I think you're a little out of your depth here. What do you think of ECS amps?
Posted on: 28 August 2004 by velofellow
Kevin,when you replied to me you were Radio 4;now, you are a Service to the World.Is this a promotion?Cheers Tony
Posted on: 28 August 2004 by Bhoyo
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Toy:
The American voters need to learn this concept fast so as to get their priorities right where choosing a president is concerned.



I'll tell them you said so. I'm sure they'll be duly grateful, lacking as they are in sophisticated political coomentary.

Davie
Posted on: 28 August 2004 by Steve Toy
quote:
I'm sure they'll be duly grateful, lacking as they are in sophisticated political coomentary.



Well I suppose it was just under half the US population who were sophisticated enough to vote for that particular goon.



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 29 August 2004 by Kevin-W
quote:
Originally posted by velofellow:
Kevin,when you replied to me you were Radio 4;now, you are a Service to the World.Is this a promotion?Cheers Tony


Yes, I have been promoted. I have come here to serve you all, and to allow you the benefit of whatever scraps of wisdom I deign to throw your way. Always happy to be of service...

Kevin Wink

Kevin (808 State - Deepville)
Posted on: 29 August 2004 by BigH47
Kevin
Too modest. Roll Eyes

Howard (404 state page not found) Big Grin
Posted on: 29 August 2004 by Berlin Fritz
I think Tony Blair will soon be regretting ever having known Mr Cambell, let alone allowing him so much extraordinary power.

Fritz Von Fuckwithauntiebeebatyourperil Cool
Posted on: 30 August 2004 by Berlin Fritz
I've just come to the strange conclusion that the UK Conservative opposition leader Michael Howard
and an earlier Florida Erection both have something in common, in that neither of them can be
considered as being "True Counts" innit. As it's pouring with rain outside, teeming, pissin doon, sheetin,
what have you, and I've only just finished my second cup of tea, I'm quite pleased with myself
for such inspired imagination (though no doubt somebody will tell me it's not aboriginal, even though
I know it is, so you read iot here first, innit.

Fritz Von Huntingtigersdopwninindia Big Grin