Credit Card Fraud
Posted by: Tom F on 11 May 2004
Just had a call from one of my credit card providers to ask about an odd transaction that went through today. It seems that someone has been spending on the internet using my card details.
This card is one which I check online and receive online statements and have used for some online purchases in the past. It seems that there are about 7 transactions on there (ranging from £2 to £1300) which have been put on in the last month or last few days.
The card provider is looking into all of these and has cancelled the card. However, never having been the victim to this sort of thing before, does anyone have any advice about what else I should do? Do I contact other CC providers to check with them? Cancel all cards? Notify the police? Or am I just overreacting...?
Thanks in advance
Tom
This card is one which I check online and receive online statements and have used for some online purchases in the past. It seems that there are about 7 transactions on there (ranging from £2 to £1300) which have been put on in the last month or last few days.
The card provider is looking into all of these and has cancelled the card. However, never having been the victim to this sort of thing before, does anyone have any advice about what else I should do? Do I contact other CC providers to check with them? Cancel all cards? Notify the police? Or am I just overreacting...?
Thanks in advance
Tom
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by TomK
This is very worrying. Please let us know how it works out.
And good luck with it.
And good luck with it.
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by Steve G
One of my colleagues found out earlier than someone was using one of his cards yesterday in various local shops. It looks like it was intercepted between being posted by the bank and arriving with him (similar to the sorting office issues on that recent TV program perhaps).
His wife works for the bank and noticed the transactions today - had that not been the case then it could have been a while before anyone noticed!
His wife works for the bank and noticed the transactions today - had that not been the case then it could have been a while before anyone noticed!
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by NeilM
Tom,
not very nice is it?
I recently had a similar misfortune, the scoundrels spent about £7k all told.
In my case, they only made a copy of just my one card, so there were no further problems.
The credit card company took a long time at resolving the problem so as long as you have other means of spending money you should be OK. With mine, I went through all my recent spending to identify my spending versus fraudulent use. They sent a confirmation letter which I then signed. I didn't hear anything else
hope this helps,
Neil
not very nice is it?
I recently had a similar misfortune, the scoundrels spent about £7k all told.
In my case, they only made a copy of just my one card, so there were no further problems.
The credit card company took a long time at resolving the problem so as long as you have other means of spending money you should be OK. With mine, I went through all my recent spending to identify my spending versus fraudulent use. They sent a confirmation letter which I then signed. I didn't hear anything else
hope this helps,
Neil
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by Tom F
Cheers chaps.
Very helpful all round.
I will go through all financial records tonight and seek to identify anything else.
I probably need to review the CC situation since I have cards which are 'empty' and that I no longer use. Now would be a good time to get rid of them
Alex - Excellent advice. I think shredding is definitely in order. Something to do at home or make use of the office services (I work in a large law firm with strict policies on confidential shredding)?
BTW, who/what is CIFAS?
My concern is that the info was nabbed online (could have been skimmed, but I don't think that's co. policy at M&S....), especially since some or all of the paykments have been made via t'internet. If this is the case, do I need to suspect software on my home PC or something in a recent online transaction (play.com)?
What is it that is said about paranoia? The price paid for eternal vigilance...?
Very helpful all round.
I will go through all financial records tonight and seek to identify anything else.
I probably need to review the CC situation since I have cards which are 'empty' and that I no longer use. Now would be a good time to get rid of them
Alex - Excellent advice. I think shredding is definitely in order. Something to do at home or make use of the office services (I work in a large law firm with strict policies on confidential shredding)?
BTW, who/what is CIFAS?
My concern is that the info was nabbed online (could have been skimmed, but I don't think that's co. policy at M&S....), especially since some or all of the paykments have been made via t'internet. If this is the case, do I need to suspect software on my home PC or something in a recent online transaction (play.com)?
What is it that is said about paranoia? The price paid for eternal vigilance...?
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by JeremyD
Manually operated shredders are available for £5, so it's well worth getting one for home use.
Shredding, I've found, is almost as much fun as popping bubble-wrap bubbles.
Shredding, I've found, is almost as much fun as popping bubble-wrap bubbles.
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by david needham
Tom
Are you sure it was your credit card company that called you? There is a scam going round at the moment where fraudsters call people who they've got basic credit card details of (e.g. from household rubbish/restaurant copying). They pretend to be checking up on fraud and then ask for the security number on the signature strip on the back of the card, to verify you haven't lost it. They are then able to use the card details they already have, without suspicion - until you get yor next statement.
Why don't you double check with your card company, to be sure the call was genuine?
Sorry if I sound paranoid!
David
Are you sure it was your credit card company that called you? There is a scam going round at the moment where fraudsters call people who they've got basic credit card details of (e.g. from household rubbish/restaurant copying). They pretend to be checking up on fraud and then ask for the security number on the signature strip on the back of the card, to verify you haven't lost it. They are then able to use the card details they already have, without suspicion - until you get yor next statement.
Why don't you double check with your card company, to be sure the call was genuine?
Sorry if I sound paranoid!
David
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by Steve Toy
Five year ago (before I had any internet access) a company called www.ibill.com were regularly debiting to my Natwest Visa card between $5 and $30 each month.
I contacted Natwest and they refunded the money no questions asked.
What I would like to know is who the fuck are ibill.com, how did they get access to my credit card details, and what exactly do they do? Their website doesn't really make it terribly clear.
Regards,
Steve.
I contacted Natwest and they refunded the money no questions asked.
What I would like to know is who the fuck are ibill.com, how did they get access to my credit card details, and what exactly do they do? Their website doesn't really make it terribly clear.
Regards,
Steve.
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by oldie
Tom,
If you havent already report it to the police and get a"crime number from them" your CC may reqire one from you.This is the one thing that has always troubled me about using CC's on the internet
oldie.
If you havent already report it to the police and get a"crime number from them" your CC may reqire one from you.This is the one thing that has always troubled me about using CC's on the internet
oldie.
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by Tom F
Jeremy - Will take a trip to Office World or similar tonight to pick up a shredder.
David - That thought did occur to me and I did just that. In fact, when I did, I discovered that there had been more than one dodgy transaction in the last month. Consequently, I had to contact an internet company (3 letters, starts with "A") to ask why they'd been taking money off me. In less than a minute they confirmed the transactions looked dodgy, so these were added to the list for another call to the CC co.
Oldie - will do. Am still surprised at the whole experience, but will contact police to 'square the circle', as it were. (Should that be added to the "Hated expressions" thread?).
Cheers for the support guys.
Tom
David - That thought did occur to me and I did just that. In fact, when I did, I discovered that there had been more than one dodgy transaction in the last month. Consequently, I had to contact an internet company (3 letters, starts with "A") to ask why they'd been taking money off me. In less than a minute they confirmed the transactions looked dodgy, so these were added to the list for another call to the CC co.
Oldie - will do. Am still surprised at the whole experience, but will contact police to 'square the circle', as it were. (Should that be added to the "Hated expressions" thread?).
Cheers for the support guys.
Tom
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by Rasher
I hate getting credit card companies sending me a sheet of cheques that I don't want. Putting these in the bin is asking for trouble so I take it to work and shred it. I even shred my Sainsburys receipts now. Do you know how they got your details Tom?
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by Tom F
Rasher
No idea. I'll look into this once the CC co get in touch during their investigation.
Agree re. the cheques. usually these are torn into tiny pieces and spread between bags of rubbish, but I am coming to the conclusion that shredding is better. Actually, the shredding done at work isn't done at work - it's contracted out AFAICT. We have locked wheely bins (not v secure - just been replaced with metal bins with 'postage' slot) which are emptied every so often. One can only hope the stuff is properly shredded.
Am I getting paranoid or what?
No idea. I'll look into this once the CC co get in touch during their investigation.
Agree re. the cheques. usually these are torn into tiny pieces and spread between bags of rubbish, but I am coming to the conclusion that shredding is better. Actually, the shredding done at work isn't done at work - it's contracted out AFAICT. We have locked wheely bins (not v secure - just been replaced with metal bins with 'postage' slot) which are emptied every so often. One can only hope the stuff is properly shredded.
Am I getting paranoid or what?
Posted on: 11 May 2004 by garyi
I believe that ibill et all charge on behalf of other websites, pay for websites.
The final straw for me came last year when I was stung for the third time. I have been lucky in that they weren't big spends.
The way I deal with it now is not to have credit cards. Simple really.
I worry about things like my ebay and pay pal accounts, so I have stupid complicated passwords.
The final straw for me came last year when I was stung for the third time. I have been lucky in that they weren't big spends.
The way I deal with it now is not to have credit cards. Simple really.
I worry about things like my ebay and pay pal accounts, so I have stupid complicated passwords.
Posted on: 12 May 2004 by Tom F
Thanks Alex. Will have a trot through the site later.
Tom
Tom