Smoking update
Posted by: Fisbey on 10 May 2004
Four weeks today, phew, have felt crappy (for a few days) with a heavy cold and have been given some meds by the doctor to clear the crap from my chest.
Four weeks not bad though....
Four weeks not bad though....
Posted on: 10 May 2004 by Rasher
Not bad?! Bloody brilliant more like!
I imagine that weekends are the worst, and that's another one down.
I imagine that weekends are the worst, and that's another one down.
Posted on: 10 May 2004 by Rasher
Three & a half months!! 
What went wrong??
What went wrong??Posted on: 10 May 2004 by Fisbey
Long story.....
Posted on: 17 July 2004 by BigH47
11 months here. I have never felt worse, still saving loads of money. Spending some like nick on marmite crisps(what a wonderful invention.)I have ONLY put on about a stone, was big before though.
Holiday next week that will be a toughie.
Anyway guys (and girls?) keep on keeping on.
Regards
Howard
Holiday next week that will be a toughie.
Anyway guys (and girls?) keep on keeping on.
Regards
Howard
Posted on: 17 July 2004 by Steveandkate
Be Strong !
I smoked for many years (15?) and up to 60 a day.
Bronchitis every year, an inhaler and yellow fingers, then managed, eventually to give up - about 12 years ago. About 3-4 weeks after, I got a bad cough, and seemed to shed a coating of crap from my lungs, but since then, no inhaler, not a single attack of bronchitis and no yellow fingers.
I found it helped to stay away from smokers and pubs etc for the first few weeks, but all the effort is worth it, and even if you do not give up this time, look on it as a practise for next time - but try to beat it this time.
Keep fingers busy and nibbles at hand - any weight gained will soon go, and if the money saved can be saved for a purpose, then think - how many fags equals a new record or cd, or even, for the heavy smokers, a new black box ?
Good luck !
Steve
I smoked for many years (15?) and up to 60 a day.
Bronchitis every year, an inhaler and yellow fingers, then managed, eventually to give up - about 12 years ago. About 3-4 weeks after, I got a bad cough, and seemed to shed a coating of crap from my lungs, but since then, no inhaler, not a single attack of bronchitis and no yellow fingers.
I found it helped to stay away from smokers and pubs etc for the first few weeks, but all the effort is worth it, and even if you do not give up this time, look on it as a practise for next time - but try to beat it this time.
Keep fingers busy and nibbles at hand - any weight gained will soon go, and if the money saved can be saved for a purpose, then think - how many fags equals a new record or cd, or even, for the heavy smokers, a new black box ?
Good luck !
Steve
Posted on: 17 July 2004 by Geoff P
I gave up smoking 2 1/2 years ago after consuming on average 20 a day for 30 years! I can now climb several flights of stairs in one go, really taste my food and have a rather nice set of Naim kit, all of which would probably not have happened otherwise.
OK so if you are an ex-smoker you have to pat yourself on the back, and of course become most vociferous about the effects of smoking but that's another reward your entitled to.
I have just returned from a trip to the good old UK and have to say it is probably one of the worst places left in the world in which to try and give up smoking. Everywhere I went I got smoke blown in my face. Turning street corners, walking into a pub etc. I travelled around a bit and stayed in hotels and asked for non-smoking rooms. 50% of them had been smoked in UUGH!
I have just unpacked my clothes and can smell residual smoke on them, something I don't have a problem with so much over here, in the netherlands. The interesting thing is that the freedom to smoke over here is just as available as in the UK in pubs and restaraunts it is just not as prevalent anymore. people seem to be more health aware.
So good luck to you UK folks trying to give it up, you are in one of the most difficult places to avoid temptation.
regards
GEOFF
Listening every day planning to "not fade away"
OK so if you are an ex-smoker you have to pat yourself on the back, and of course become most vociferous about the effects of smoking but that's another reward your entitled to.
I have just returned from a trip to the good old UK and have to say it is probably one of the worst places left in the world in which to try and give up smoking. Everywhere I went I got smoke blown in my face. Turning street corners, walking into a pub etc. I travelled around a bit and stayed in hotels and asked for non-smoking rooms. 50% of them had been smoked in UUGH!
I have just unpacked my clothes and can smell residual smoke on them, something I don't have a problem with so much over here, in the netherlands. The interesting thing is that the freedom to smoke over here is just as available as in the UK in pubs and restaraunts it is just not as prevalent anymore. people seem to be more health aware.
So good luck to you UK folks trying to give it up, you are in one of the most difficult places to avoid temptation.
regards
GEOFF
Listening every day planning to "not fade away"
Posted on: 17 July 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Ooops, sorry I thought you said tokin, wrong thread !
Posted on: 17 July 2004 by Justin
I'm curious; After you have been on the wagon for a while, does the urge to smoke eventually go away? I have spoken to an ex-smoker who says that she now can't stand the smell of it, and is frankly disgusted with them - has no urge whatsoever to take it back up.
BUT. . .It seems I have heard from others that despite what other people say, the desire NEVER goes away. Case in point, an aunt of my wife's quit smoking 30 years ago and last year was diagnosed with breast cancer and was told she had about 6 months left. She started up again as if she had never stopped and told me that not a day went by in her last 30 years where she did not desire it.
What gives?
judd
BUT. . .It seems I have heard from others that despite what other people say, the desire NEVER goes away. Case in point, an aunt of my wife's quit smoking 30 years ago and last year was diagnosed with breast cancer and was told she had about 6 months left. She started up again as if she had never stopped and told me that not a day went by in her last 30 years where she did not desire it.
What gives?
judd
Posted on: 17 July 2004 by Bob McC
Into my second month without a cig after 38 years as a smoker. I could murder one every day after about 10pm but have resisted. One side effect seems to be I'm starving all the time, and I'm just coming out of ratty psychopath stage. I'm sure I'm going to balloon but one thing at a time.
Keep going fellas!
Bob
Keep going fellas!
Bob
Posted on: 17 July 2004 by Steve Toy
I gave up the relatively heavy smoking habit 10 years ago (10 to 20 per day.)
The only problem ever since for me is when I have had a couple of drinks. Thus if I don't drink alcohol for a few days I had no desire whatsoever to smoke a cigarette, but after two or three pints I'm gasping, and go on to smoking about 5 or 6 before the night is out.
Thus I buy cigarettes in packs of 200 from the Continent and each such sleeve lasts me about a month.
Regards,
Steve.
The only problem ever since for me is when I have had a couple of drinks. Thus if I don't drink alcohol for a few days I had no desire whatsoever to smoke a cigarette, but after two or three pints I'm gasping, and go on to smoking about 5 or 6 before the night is out.
Thus I buy cigarettes in packs of 200 from the Continent and each such sleeve lasts me about a month.
Regards,
Steve.
Posted on: 18 July 2004 by Cheese
Almost six months here. Have never felt better, the really bad (and definitely frightening) cough that used to wake me (us) up every night has all gone, headaches too, and, best of all, I a now able to grasp the actual taste of the things I'm cooking. Oh and the whole process was so easy that I can't really tell why I waited that long.
Good luck anyway !
Cheese
quote:Personally I wouldn't mind a fag once or twice a month at social occasions, and I believe it will remain that way for a few years - but that's not more difficult than to say no to the extra glass of wine that might endanger your driving license.
BUT. . .It seems I have heard from others that despite what other people say, the desire NEVER goes away
Good luck anyway !
Cheese
Posted on: 18 July 2004 by matthewr
"It seems I have heard from others that despite what other people say, the desire NEVER goes away"
ISTM this is relatd to the overwhlemingly psychological nature of nicotine addiction (the physical addiction is essentially trivial) and that ex-smokers are often left with a sort of residual element of addiction that is under control but can cause seemingly bizarre relapses years later. There is an argument that the way most people give up through brute force of will and with a sense of "giving up" something and self-denial often contributes to such feelings (Indeed this argument i s at the heart of psychological approaches to quitting like Allan Carr's method).
I gave up for a couple of years in my early 20s and had these latent feelings of wanting to smoke again and duly relapsed quite out of the blue one night in a bar in Lisbon. Many years later (on 9/11 2001 no less) I gave up again and have absolutely no lingering desire to smoke whatsoever. I don't miss them one bit, am continually thankful, almost elated, to think that I have stopped and am utterly convinced that I will never smoke again (erm, touchwood).
The difference this time, I think, is that I really decided to give up one night in bed when I was forcing myself to suck down a final cigarrette before going to sleep despite a throat sore from power smoking my way through a day's supply. I suddenly found myself thinking "What am I doing?" and feeling so utterly worthless and so profoundly dejected about the whole thing that I basically decided to stop smoking there and then. There was then a couple of weeks working out how best to do it (I got hold of the "Stop Smoking" pills Ryban) but really I actually gave up while lying in bed staring at a heaped up ashtray full of some 50 cigarrette butts.
To sort of profoundly decide to give up in this way is of course not something you can just decide to do and I was probably exceptionally fortunate in this regard. Which is why most smokers just beat their addiction into a tiny corner of their head where it lives on as an occasional wistful reminiscence about how they used to love inhaling noxious fumes that were dramatically increasing the chances of an early and unpleasant death even though if they are honest smokers will confess that they never actually enjoyed smoking at all and were only pretending they did to avoid looking utterly pathetic.
Matthew
ISTM this is relatd to the overwhlemingly psychological nature of nicotine addiction (the physical addiction is essentially trivial) and that ex-smokers are often left with a sort of residual element of addiction that is under control but can cause seemingly bizarre relapses years later. There is an argument that the way most people give up through brute force of will and with a sense of "giving up" something and self-denial often contributes to such feelings (Indeed this argument i s at the heart of psychological approaches to quitting like Allan Carr's method).
I gave up for a couple of years in my early 20s and had these latent feelings of wanting to smoke again and duly relapsed quite out of the blue one night in a bar in Lisbon. Many years later (on 9/11 2001 no less) I gave up again and have absolutely no lingering desire to smoke whatsoever. I don't miss them one bit, am continually thankful, almost elated, to think that I have stopped and am utterly convinced that I will never smoke again (erm, touchwood).
The difference this time, I think, is that I really decided to give up one night in bed when I was forcing myself to suck down a final cigarrette before going to sleep despite a throat sore from power smoking my way through a day's supply. I suddenly found myself thinking "What am I doing?" and feeling so utterly worthless and so profoundly dejected about the whole thing that I basically decided to stop smoking there and then. There was then a couple of weeks working out how best to do it (I got hold of the "Stop Smoking" pills Ryban) but really I actually gave up while lying in bed staring at a heaped up ashtray full of some 50 cigarrette butts.
To sort of profoundly decide to give up in this way is of course not something you can just decide to do and I was probably exceptionally fortunate in this regard. Which is why most smokers just beat their addiction into a tiny corner of their head where it lives on as an occasional wistful reminiscence about how they used to love inhaling noxious fumes that were dramatically increasing the chances of an early and unpleasant death even though if they are honest smokers will confess that they never actually enjoyed smoking at all and were only pretending they did to avoid looking utterly pathetic.
Matthew
Posted on: 18 July 2004 by Alex S.
Jesus H Christ, Nick - You've truly given up? Brilliant! And Paul, you've given up too? Fantastic!
Alex
PS I've gone a week without after smoking for a year and a half after giving up for 6 years after smoking for over 20. After starting again I noticed, after a year, that I could feel cigarettes killing me. It wasn't a great feeling. Must try not to put on weight this time!
Alex
PS I've gone a week without after smoking for a year and a half after giving up for 6 years after smoking for over 20. After starting again I noticed, after a year, that I could feel cigarettes killing me. It wasn't a great feeling. Must try not to put on weight this time!
Posted on: 18 July 2004 by Geoff P
I sort of agree with Matthew.
I have smoked most of 30 years. I gave up for a year about 15 years in. Changed job and ended up with a chain smoking boss who insisted on daily meetings in his office. I was inhaling so much passively that I thought "shit I might as well smoke" and started again. When I look back I was just waiting for an excuse because I had forced myself to give it up in the first place.
This time around it has been 2 and 1/2 years and I have very few occasions when I get a fleeting desire to smoke which is easy to put aside.
This time aorund I gave up using the Allan Carr method. It proposes that you just step outside yourself and see how utterly stupid it is to light up a paper tube full of leaves and how crazy it is to inhale the smoke from this in the complete and certain knowledge that it is absolutely lousy for your health, then think about the wasted money aswell.
You are supposed to plan the first occasion you do this, smoke your last cigarrette, and "go for it". Everytime the desire comes along do this "step outside yourself" thing and laugh inside along with a congratulatory metphorical pat on the back for not being one of these stupid poeple that smoke.
It worked for me and it seemed so much easier to fight the desire for a quick puff.
regards
GEOFF
Listening every day planning to "not fade away"
I have smoked most of 30 years. I gave up for a year about 15 years in. Changed job and ended up with a chain smoking boss who insisted on daily meetings in his office. I was inhaling so much passively that I thought "shit I might as well smoke" and started again. When I look back I was just waiting for an excuse because I had forced myself to give it up in the first place.
This time around it has been 2 and 1/2 years and I have very few occasions when I get a fleeting desire to smoke which is easy to put aside.
This time aorund I gave up using the Allan Carr method. It proposes that you just step outside yourself and see how utterly stupid it is to light up a paper tube full of leaves and how crazy it is to inhale the smoke from this in the complete and certain knowledge that it is absolutely lousy for your health, then think about the wasted money aswell.
You are supposed to plan the first occasion you do this, smoke your last cigarrette, and "go for it". Everytime the desire comes along do this "step outside yourself" thing and laugh inside along with a congratulatory metphorical pat on the back for not being one of these stupid poeple that smoke.
It worked for me and it seemed so much easier to fight the desire for a quick puff.
regards
GEOFF
Listening every day planning to "not fade away"
Posted on: 18 July 2004 by Bob McC
The return of one's taste buds is a double edged sword isn't it? I now can taste how foul cow's milk is!
Bob
Bob
Posted on: 19 July 2004 by throbnorth
Well done so far, Nick! Deciding just do do it on your own shows an admirable strength of character which I sadly don't possess.
My torment begins this Wednesday evening - I've signed on for a GMFA stop smoking group in Central London which runs for the next seven weeks - at 2 1/2 hrs a time! After the first couple of meetings, frankly I am wondering what there is to talk about. If it's even remotely interesting, I'll tell you.
Frankly, I'm scared shitless [and the constipation isn't supposed to start until week two] - a REALLY REALLY heavy smoker since 18, I currently spend more a month on fags than I do on my mortgage, which is a bit gobsmacking, really.
A lot of the conventional reasons for giving up don't move me. I actually like the smell of stale smoke - reminds me of my sainted mother, hanging around in bars [me, not her] and generally pleasant things - infinitely preferable to power perfume or cologne, and I can also look at any amount of pictures of diseased lungs and hearts, repete with squidgy fat being squeezed out of them with complete equanimity, although I do find the current TV campaign with the Brummie guy talking about his cancer and the sequel with [presumably] his daughter being told how brave she is incredibly moving in a way no other UK ads so far have been .
What is motivating me is cost [the calculator on the NHS site recons I've spent £112,000 so far if fags were priced at current levels], the fact that I plan my life around smoking, and the lack of control over same that this exerts. Then there's the brown film that collects over all my CD's, walls, books and white shirts in the wardrobe [which I often wash several times between wearings].
Stupidly perhaps, quite high on my list of reasons to give up is that my cat [the one who does astonishing things with socks] likes to end his day nestled in the crook of my arm, purring loudly, as we lie in bed - me reading some old toss [on a Perry Mason jag at the moment - 14 in the last month, and counting] & listening to Late Junction, him attempting to repay some of the kindness & cash I lavish on him with a bit of atypical unselfish bonding. As soon as I light up, he buggers off - and this really grieves me. Sentimental I know, and probably unhygenic.
I plan to give up using Zyban, based on the successful experiences of a couple of friends. I know there can be outrageous side effects, but I'm prepared to attempt to deal with any of these that may come along temporarily [although I do draw the line at fits] on the basis that the side effects of smoking might be slightly worse. If any of you have tales of 'rashes, thoughts of self harm, insomnia, dry skin, disconnection with reality, violence towards property or possessions, paranoia, inability to swallow, numbness, lack of sensation in the limbs/face and feelings of demonic possesion', please keep them to yourself for a bit, and we can chuckle later.
throb
My torment begins this Wednesday evening - I've signed on for a GMFA stop smoking group in Central London which runs for the next seven weeks - at 2 1/2 hrs a time! After the first couple of meetings, frankly I am wondering what there is to talk about. If it's even remotely interesting, I'll tell you.
Frankly, I'm scared shitless [and the constipation isn't supposed to start until week two] - a REALLY REALLY heavy smoker since 18, I currently spend more a month on fags than I do on my mortgage, which is a bit gobsmacking, really.
A lot of the conventional reasons for giving up don't move me. I actually like the smell of stale smoke - reminds me of my sainted mother, hanging around in bars [me, not her] and generally pleasant things - infinitely preferable to power perfume or cologne, and I can also look at any amount of pictures of diseased lungs and hearts, repete with squidgy fat being squeezed out of them with complete equanimity, although I do find the current TV campaign with the Brummie guy talking about his cancer and the sequel with [presumably] his daughter being told how brave she is incredibly moving in a way no other UK ads so far have been .
What is motivating me is cost [the calculator on the NHS site recons I've spent £112,000 so far if fags were priced at current levels], the fact that I plan my life around smoking, and the lack of control over same that this exerts. Then there's the brown film that collects over all my CD's, walls, books and white shirts in the wardrobe [which I often wash several times between wearings].
Stupidly perhaps, quite high on my list of reasons to give up is that my cat [the one who does astonishing things with socks] likes to end his day nestled in the crook of my arm, purring loudly, as we lie in bed - me reading some old toss [on a Perry Mason jag at the moment - 14 in the last month, and counting] & listening to Late Junction, him attempting to repay some of the kindness & cash I lavish on him with a bit of atypical unselfish bonding. As soon as I light up, he buggers off - and this really grieves me. Sentimental I know, and probably unhygenic.
I plan to give up using Zyban, based on the successful experiences of a couple of friends. I know there can be outrageous side effects, but I'm prepared to attempt to deal with any of these that may come along temporarily [although I do draw the line at fits] on the basis that the side effects of smoking might be slightly worse. If any of you have tales of 'rashes, thoughts of self harm, insomnia, dry skin, disconnection with reality, violence towards property or possessions, paranoia, inability to swallow, numbness, lack of sensation in the limbs/face and feelings of demonic possesion', please keep them to yourself for a bit, and we can chuckle later.
throb
Posted on: 19 July 2004 by P
Ever tried Heroin?
Seriously good way of kicking a nasty habit but you may just develop another. Might be slightly more expensive.
Joking aside. Why quit smoking and die of anxiety? Or Boredom?
What's worse?
The oldest woman in the world died recently at the grand old age of 117ish. She was French. She smoked 40 Gaulois a day all her life and drank at least a bottle of wine a day.
So?
Don't believe the hype.
Smoking and boozing is fucking GOOD for you!
P - That's my excuse anyway.
Seriously good way of kicking a nasty habit but you may just develop another. Might be slightly more expensive.
Joking aside. Why quit smoking and die of anxiety? Or Boredom?
What's worse?
The oldest woman in the world died recently at the grand old age of 117ish. She was French. She smoked 40 Gaulois a day all her life and drank at least a bottle of wine a day.
So?
Don't believe the hype.
Smoking and boozing is fucking GOOD for you!
P - That's my excuse anyway.
Posted on: 19 July 2004 by matthewr
"I plan to give up using Zyban, based on the successful experiences of a couple of friends"
Zyban + Motivation = Success (at least for me)
"I know there can be outrageous side effects"
Don't invite your family round in the first month in case you mruder them.
Matthew
Zyban + Motivation = Success (at least for me)
"I know there can be outrageous side effects"
Don't invite your family round in the first month in case you mruder them.
Matthew
Posted on: 19 July 2004 by Bob McC
What's zyban folks?
Bob
Bob
Posted on: 19 July 2004 by matthewr
It's a drug from the same group of drugs (SSRIs) as Prozac. During it's clinical trials as a treatment for depression it was noticed that it reduced the urge to smoke in smokers.
It was subsequently licensed as a sopt smoking drug and had great success. Then -- like other SSRIs -- there were lots of stories about nasty side effects including violent mood swings and suicides.
I actually thought it had been withdrawn from by the NHS.
Matthew
It was subsequently licensed as a sopt smoking drug and had great success. Then -- like other SSRIs -- there were lots of stories about nasty side effects including violent mood swings and suicides.
I actually thought it had been withdrawn from by the NHS.
Matthew
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by Alex S.
Nick, keep going. Don't give up. I mean do give up.
P, if I just dropped dead one day from smoking I'd probably agree. The trouble is I could actually feel the smoking killing me one day at a time. That's not good.
P, if I just dropped dead one day from smoking I'd probably agree. The trouble is I could actually feel the smoking killing me one day at a time. That's not good.
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by P
Alex. If you have a real reason to quit then I'm all for it. If I was a family man with responsibilities then I guess I'd quit in an instant. As it is - I'm not, and at nearly 46 I guess never will be, so I'll just continue to smoke and drink and live a life of debauchery.
Y'know if the Government Health warnings on cigarette packets were changed to read something like - "If You Smoke and Drink you might live to be 122" or "Smoking Makes you Thin and Sexy" instead of "Smoking Makes you Impotent and Socially Depraved" then I might consider giving up.
As it is I kinda like the thrill of the chase :-)
P
Y'know if the Government Health warnings on cigarette packets were changed to read something like - "If You Smoke and Drink you might live to be 122" or "Smoking Makes you Thin and Sexy" instead of "Smoking Makes you Impotent and Socially Depraved" then I might consider giving up.
As it is I kinda like the thrill of the chase :-)
P
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by BLT
I gave up smoking several times before I finally lost the urge to smoke. I could always stop quite easily, but as soon as I had a pint in my hand the urge to smoke became overwhelming - especially if I was with other smokers who would offer me ciggies. Epiphany came after a 6 month period of non-smoking, a friend who had stopped at the same time as me started smoking again. He was paying a visit and offered me a smoke. I started smoking at my usual rate but after 8 fags in a couple of hours I felt absolutely awful. My face was green and I had to step outside for a breath of fresh air. Since then I have felt no urge whatsoever to smoke, even when I am drinking. It was almost as if a switch was thrown inside my head from smoker to non-smoker.
I just wish that I could now find the same switch that relates to eating too much....
I just wish that I could now find the same switch that relates to eating too much....
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by rodwsmith
Nick, Bob, Throb, all.
It is very easy to stop smoking once you change the thought process from "giving up" something to "getting rid" of something. Which I guess is vaguely the Allen Carr method.
The following really helped me:
1) invest 15 minutes watching the "Final Act" film from the link in the top right of this http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/finalact/
2) view the Australian anti-smoking ads: http://www.quitnow.info.au/index1.html
Whoever did these ads is the first person to get shock value really to work. Reading the psychology behind them also helps. Whenever I get a craving (increasingly less often) I think of the image of the healthy lung having a year's worth of tar poured on it. I feel quite confident I shall never want to smoke again.
Good luck.
Rod
It is very easy to stop smoking once you change the thought process from "giving up" something to "getting rid" of something. Which I guess is vaguely the Allen Carr method.
The following really helped me:
1) invest 15 minutes watching the "Final Act" film from the link in the top right of this http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/finalact/
2) view the Australian anti-smoking ads: http://www.quitnow.info.au/index1.html
Whoever did these ads is the first person to get shock value really to work. Reading the psychology behind them also helps. Whenever I get a craving (increasingly less often) I think of the image of the healthy lung having a year's worth of tar poured on it. I feel quite confident I shall never want to smoke again.
Good luck.
Rod
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by adamk
I gave up a 20-30 a day habit in January 2001.
I had a good friend at the time who smoked like a train and had a complete fear of flying. He suddenley went to a Hypnotherapist in Harley Street and was cured of both in one session.
Like most smokers I really wanted to give up but did not have the will power.
One session at Harley Street cured me - I have never looked at a cigarette again, I don't get palpitations when I go to a pub and I don't mind friends smoking around me. I can however detect a smoker as soon as I meet them - do you realise how much you smell ?
From memory I think the session cost £195 and this was the best £195 I have ever spent.
For anyone really interested I can supply the name of the Hypnotherapist (if I can find her card somewhere).
I had a good friend at the time who smoked like a train and had a complete fear of flying. He suddenley went to a Hypnotherapist in Harley Street and was cured of both in one session.
Like most smokers I really wanted to give up but did not have the will power.
One session at Harley Street cured me - I have never looked at a cigarette again, I don't get palpitations when I go to a pub and I don't mind friends smoking around me. I can however detect a smoker as soon as I meet them - do you realise how much you smell ?
From memory I think the session cost £195 and this was the best £195 I have ever spent.
For anyone really interested I can supply the name of the Hypnotherapist (if I can find her card somewhere).