Anti-virus/firewall software

Posted by: Two-Sheds on 07 November 2004

sorry if this has been posted before, but I did a search and couldn't find anything.

I've finally decided to upgrade my anti-virus/firewall software on my home pc. I only have one PC and I'm using Windows XP Home. When I got it had a free trial of Norton anti-virus installed which is what I've been using up to now.

I was mainly looking at getting either Norton Internet Security 2005 or McAfee Internet Security Suite.

The first question is do I really need either of the above? is MS firewall that comes with XP Home sufficent? should I just look at the firms anti-virus stuff and forget the firewall (I would have thought the commercial firewall software is better so I am prepared to get one)?

The other question is both of the products I've mentioend above require IE 5.5 or higher which I have, but don't use. I use Mozilla Firefox for browsing and Thunderbird for mail. Because I'm using Firefox is some of the functionality of the products wasted on me?

Has anyone got experience with either of the above (or any other options)?

thanks in advance...
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by David Stewart
Zone Alarm would be my recomendation for the firewall as it's free and does things the XP one doesn't. Having had experience of Norton and McAfee virus ware, I'm not keen on either. Try NOD32 from Eset http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm
It's fast and doesn't impose any big system overheads. You can download a 30day free trial and having done so, you'll probably not want to bother with anything else. It's also commendably cheap, which is probably why MS use it inhouse Winker
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by Paul Hutchings
Depends.. for free try Avast from (http://www.avast.com), of the commercial products, nod32 and kaspersky always seem to come out well, they just don't have the same brand-awareness as Symantec and the likes.

Firewalls.. personally, run spybot frequently and use the XP one if you trust what's on your PC trying to get out.

cheers,
Paul
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by Nime
I actually got my money back on Norton because it was impossible to get onto the web whatever the settings.

I buy Zone Alarm and AVG online these days and have had no problems since doing so.

Get Ad-Aware too! They have a new free download called Ad-Aware-SE Personal. And update the search file regularly! It found 100's of tracking bugs on my machine the first time I ran it! Make sure you have your 'pooter speakers on when it finishes scanning! Cool

Nime
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by bjorne
I only use freeware now: Zonealarm firewall, AVG antivirus free edition and Adaware. Everything has been working fine . Before I had Norton antivirus but got the Sasser virus anyway which shut Norton down and messed up the pc... I believe these free softwares are good enough.
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by Two-Sheds
cheers for all the comments and th elink back to the firewall thread. I thought I remembered seeing that, but I was searching for threads on anti-virus rather than firewall.

Anyway I'm going to give nod32 a go for anti-virus software and I'll try ZoneAlarm for firewall. I do keep my xp stuff up to date and have installed SP2.

As yet I don't think I've had a virus, I'm careful of any e-mail attachements I get and I try to avoid using IE and outlook which seem to be the common target's for virus writers. The Norton scan disk thing takes ages to do anything.
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by Adam Meredith
I use ZoneAlarm Pro (it has some useful stuff over the free version). AVG has been brillaint anti virus - even if I don't understand what is in it for them (it is freeware).
Whatever you use for anti-virus - remember that the virus that catches you is usually the one that came out yesterday. Keep your updates up to date.
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by Two-Sheds
So I'm now all protected and ready to venture out into the big world wide web again Smile

As mentioned above I went and got Nod32 and Zone Alarm. After running Nod it found a few viruses (after looking up on the internet none of them were serious or particularly malicous ones) and now Zone alarm is running it's blocked about 80 'Intrusions' in the last 10 minutes, I'm not sure how many of these the xp firewall was blocking or if any are malicous.

Adam - what fo you find useful about Zone Alarm pro. Looking on thier site on the compare I already have a few of the features covered (pop-ip and ad blocking covered eith Firefox, outgoing virus in email covered by anti-virus software) the ones that may be useful would be:
  • Safely approves programs for Internet Access.
  • Provides precise security controls.
  • Prevents personal data from leaving your computer without permission.
Posted on: 07 November 2004 by Martin D
Adam, I totally agree about AVG. I have installed it on about 4 friends PC’s some of which already had Norton and others installed. It found and killed loads of virus’s these products had missed. I therefore don’t like Norton products too much. You’re right about keeping up to date – I check for new updates all the time.
Martin
Posted on: 08 November 2004 by Nime
In a perfect world your ISP would do all the cleaning up before you ever see an attachment carrying a virus. Or see spam for tham matter.

My ISP has just such a service now on my broadband connection. I get a notice every other day or so that an e-mail has been removed for containing a virus.

As to spam I hardly ever see one in my IE Inbox. I go in and delete them in bulk permanently in my ISP's spam folder. But I only check them to see if I've missed anything important. They stopped one e-mail from a friend shortly after starting the service. But no problems since. Smile

Nime
Posted on: 08 November 2004 by David Stewart
I know some ISPs offer a virus cleaning service and I know some people do rely on them, but I'm not too sure I'd be happy to relinquish the responsibility for providing antivirus precautions to a third party - maybe one day!
Posted on: 08 November 2004 by Adam Meredith
quote:
Originally posted by Two-Sheds:
Adam - what fo you find useful about Zone Alarm pro. Looking on thier site on the compare I already have a few of the features covered (pop-ip and ad blocking covered eith Firefox, outgoing virus in email covered by anti-virus software) the ones that may be useful would be:
+ Safely approves programs for Internet Access.+ Provides precise security controls.+ Prevents personal data from leaving your computer without permission.

I can't remember what the free version had - just know that the Pro version added useful functionality without incomprehensible complexity.
You spend years trying to learn Word, Photoshop, Quark & Dreamweaver then get bogged down with firewall and cd writer programmes. I would also recommend SpyBot but assume the "Use at your own risk" warning means it sometimes bites.
Posted on: 08 November 2004 by JeremyD
I use (with Windows 98SE):

ZoneAlarm Pro firewall (which can be customised for individual sites, unlike the free version)
Nod32 antivirus (I had Norton before)
PestPatrol anti-spware, anti-trojan etc. and
Ad-Aware SE anti-spyware (just to make sure I really need PestPatrol).
Posted on: 08 November 2004 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by David Stewart:
I know some ISPs offer a virus cleaning service and I know some people do rely on them, but I'm not too sure I'd be happy to relinquish the responsibility for providing antivirus precautions to a third party - maybe one day!


My ISP (Like Windoze SP2) recommend that the user still maintain seperate firewall and antivirus cover.

Nime
Posted on: 09 November 2004 by TomK
You need to maintain your own antivirus as well. You can't assume that floppies and CDs are clean, even if they appear to come from a reputable source. I believe that a CD given away free by one of the PC mags was accidentally infected a while back.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by Peter C
I use the following on Windows XP

Avast Antivirus
Adaware Se
Spybots Search & Destroy
Spywarebalster(works well with Spybots)

All freeware and very good