CDS II goes Crack and ERR

HI,

I have also experienced digital drop-out with my CDSII with some CDs (including Naim's own). I thought this was due to quality problems with the CD not the CDSII but your post make me uncertain. Any other members with similar experiences?

By the way, can you further explain the "Puck reshaping 101" procedure!

Anders

I was shown how to reshape the little rubber rings by pinching them between the forefinger and the thumb and pulling away from the plastic body - this is to get the rings to be circular and so remove any flat spots - it appears that to get effective clamping the rubber bits must be really proud of the plastic surface. This is also mentioned in the FAQs

Hope the above helps

Derek Wright

This has been a perennial favourite.

Usually it is the CDs at fault - central hole too big, too small, too thin, irregular etc.

Consult the faq.

However, given the number of such queries perhaps naim might consider putting something in the user manuals for CD buyers?

cheers

Nigel

The CDs II performed very well up untill recently - I never experienced these problems before.

Now I get a faulty play of every CD I put onto the system - however on other CD players (a tenth of the price) they play OK

My CD collection is very stable - ie I am not buying CDS now only playing them so your point suggests that the CDs are degrading as they sit in their jewel cases.

A while back I took the CD player to the dealer and he ran it for long time (18 to 24 hours) playing a really beaten up CD and the system did not fail - the only difference was that a different power supply box and connecting cable was used.

My thoughts are to try and borrow a different powersupply and cable and see if that fixes the problem.

Derek

Derek,

Would that be the FAQ on Naim web-site? In any case, I couldn't find any reference to this discussion there!

Anders

Hi Derek

It is possible that there's a fault in your machine, your dealer needs to get it back to us so that we can check it.

We'll need the player, power supply and interconnects, the problem may be in any one of them - your dealer has proven nothing really, by not checking all the units together.

Anders - Yes I meant the Naim unofficial Naim FAQ in the CD section - quite a bit about the problems with CDs and the players and puck training eg
1.Positioning the puck slightly off-centre.
2.Gently squeezing the feet on the base of the puck so that they stand out more.
3.Getting a different puck from your dealer or Naim.

Note that off-centre puck placement and using bits of paper are not official Naim recommendations and are
undertaken at your own risk.

Derek

Mark

It will be on your doorstep early January - I will probably bring over my self to save a day (after checking with the dealer) and the roads being open and above the water level.

To be fair to the dealer - the machine did work ok and we put the problem down to puck training

However since then.....

Thanks for the response

I have owned a CDS1 for over a year.
I have always had trouble with rattling then the "err" message.The following are my experiences,
1: If I insert a CD and press play(track 1)75% of the discs play. If I change the 1 ring puck to a 2 ring then 95% play. If I then use blue-tak to clean the platter, puck and disc then 99% play.
2: If I wish to access or skip certain tracks then the tracking problems really start.
I have about 60% success at accessing tracks 1 to 6, but if I try to access tracks near the end of the disc then tracking success is reduced to about 10%.
I accepted this problem as it has encouraged me to listen to whole CD's instead of odd tracks.
Anyway a few months ago my CDP was returned to Naim as it refused to read any CD.(it was broken)
When the CDP was returned from the factory I was surprised to discover that not only was my CDS1 working but it also tracked perfectly (just like an Aiwa).
The 1 CD in my collection that previously refused to play in the CDS1 was now mysteriously able to play.
Unfortunately the perfect tracking only lasted a week. The tracking quickly returned to its former standard.
I haven't complained to anyone as the CDS1 is so good and basically as long as I start a CD at track 1 then tracking problems are fairly infrequent.(I accept its a temperental machine, maybe this is one of its many charms).

My only nagging query is.
How common is the tracking problem? Is there a design fault?
I've never tried the sticky tape or piece of paper tweeks in order to make a CD thicker. Does it definately work or does one still have to mess about changing to a 2 ring puck and using blue-tak to clean the platter.

ps Vuk, I've read that you received a 6 tier Mana stand at Xmas. Maybe I've missed something but you don't appear to have posted a review yet. I'd be interested to know how it compares with the reference table.
Whitey.