Mana Reference Table
Posted by: David O'Higgins on 06 December 2000
I sat back to enjoy the sound improvement which I have read about in many previous messages in this forum.
Well, the sound certainly changed radically, but not for the better to my ears. Mids are more emphasised, surface noise is more accentuated and the bass is less controlled. I am reminded of an 'Origen Live' table which I tried at one time with similar results.
Has anyone any suggestions ?
In fact in general, I don't understand why there's so much comment here about Mana when Mana have a forum of their own for this kind of stuff.
Allan
This really is quite critical.If you go to the F.A.Q section of the Mana Forum you will find detailed instructions.
If this doesnt work you need to check the set up of your Linn.I can tell you from my own experience that you should be getting a lot less surface noise using a Mana.
If none of this works go on the Mana main forum where there is a wealth of experience with these supports available.
paul duerden
quote:
Well, the sound certainly changed radically, but not for the better to my ears. Mids are more emphasised, surface noise is more accentuated and the bass is less controlled. I am reminded of an 'Origen Live' table which I tried at one time with similar results.
Auch! You're tresspassing some holy ground here David...
Richard.
(do hope you get it right though!...)
Hang on a minute, please do try the MANA forum, I noticed that JW posted on the very subject recently offering tips on setup.
Incorrectly setup MANA simply does not work. Find the sweet spot and .....
Regards
Dave
quote:
Has anyone any suggestions ?
Yes, sounds like a set up issue - this is what Mana sounds like when the set up is off.
On the Mana forum (www.mana.co.uk/forum) there is a faq section where there is information by JW on how to get the best from your new stand. Follow the instructions to the letter and your stand will work as it is designed to.
Tony.
However, some points to note:
(1) LP12s take a bit of time to settle if they have been moved; my LP12 (a mongrel '91 plinth/Cirkus/Akito (soon to be Aro
)/Asaka/Lingo with some minor modifications) takes a few days to settle down again to its best performance.
(2) When purchasing the Reference Table, I trust you ordered the circular level? If not, find an accurate spirit level and ensure that the platter is level. A cheap plastic level is not sensitive enough. You may find that, in order to level the platter, the glass may end of fractionally 'off-level' - this is OK (IMHO); the crucial thing is the platter:stylus versus gravity; we want the platter to be orthogonal to gravity.
(3) Mana tables themselves can take a day or two (or more, if you have a phase 2+ setup) to settle - after this time, check to see that the table has settled and that the ring is still there.
(4) How tightly did you do up the nuts on the spikes? They should be just a bit tighter than finger-tight; use the supplied Allen key, and (having tightened the nuts as much as you can with your fingers only) use the Allen key with your little finger (which is too weak to allow you to overtighten) - this, IME, ensures the correct tightness.
(5) Ensure that you haven't knocked the bias or counterweight whilst setting it up; perhaps your cartridge is just mistracking a little. You didn't move the LP12 with the counterweight in place? On some of the more sensitive arms, this can occasionally cause some damage (if what I am told is true).
Hope this helps; email JW at Mana if you still have difficulties.
John (from QS to Phase 5 Mana in 6 months. Ouch - the wallet didnae ken what hit et!)
Rest assured that I will do everything to try to achieve the results which all of you have.
Why raise the issue on the Naim forum ? Simply because it is populated with the Web's best supply of knowledgeable music loving hi-fi enthusiasts whose collective experience results in useful suggestions in almost any situation.
Tahnks Again