Motorbikes

Posted by: Paul Hutchings on 10 November 2004

Having spent a day at the bike show at the NEC I've come away thinking "i want a bike".

It's one of those things I always wanted as a kid but as you grow up you tend to do the sensible thing and just get a car.

I need to do a lot of homework so far as what's involved with tests/cbc and gear needed and just the practical element (I'd imagine bikes on winter roads aren't fun!).

My daily trip to work is around 20 miles, mostly minor A roads with roundabouts every couple of miles.

Right now I'm thinking something like a Ducati Monster, though it's entirely possible it's a "one day wonder" idea and I'm mad for even thinking about it.

I should stress that I'm not thinking of it for the "razzing around country lanes and killing myself" factor.

Any thoughts?

Paul
Posted on: 14 November 2004 by Adam Meredith
There was one on the journey out - back end pointing towards Bath. They do scan backwards, don't they??
Posted on: 14 November 2004 by Two-Sheds
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As a general question, how do people choose a bike, both style and model?

Apparently test rides can be quite hard to get when you've only just passed your test, which is understandable but if you can't ride it how can you decide if you want it etc..


It can be hard getting test rides so I used to go mainly from magazine articles and friends recomendations. I'm sure if you ask on here the people here have ridden on quite a lot of bikes between them.

Also if you are considering buying new then conderable bargains can be found at this time of year if you don't have to have the latest. The last bike I bought new I bought in October/Novemeber 2 years ago and I got about 1500 euro off a new Yamama Fazer 600.
Posted on: 14 November 2004 by Paul Hutchings
I'll try and sort out CBT first thing this week.

I did try Bennetts for an insurance quote, very quickly did the online form and it comes out at approx £500 comprehensive based on a new Monster 620.

No idea if that's reasonable or not, and if the time comes I'll obviously call around, but it didn't seem outrageous.

Paul
Posted on: 14 November 2004 by Martin D
Adam
They point at you from the front - anyone see top gear just now? I.E your number plate is one the back!
Martin
Posted on: 14 November 2004 by Martin D
My brothers just bought a Yamaha R1 - he's bringing it round Monday, sounds interesting 170 BHP and 170 Kg 0-death in 4.6 seconds or quicker, I thought my CBR600 was quick
Posted on: 23 November 2004 by J.N.
Posted on: 24 November 2004 by Brian OReilly
Is that Cadwell Park ?

I attended the "Race School" back in the early 90s on Honda RC400s. First time on a bike after passing my test......

Our chief engineer was also taking part. He was used to British bikes with gearchange on the rhs. Arrived at the first corner and changed down.............oops.

Great circuit - lots of changes of height.Very twisty.

Brian OReilly
Posted on: 24 November 2004 by Steve G
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Originally posted by Brian OReilly:
Is that Cadwell Park ?



Looks like it to me. I've done a few track days there and loved it.
Posted on: 24 November 2004 by Dobbin
if you commute don't go for a monster - i owned one for a while and doing 70 + up the A3 each day became a pain. the 600 is underpowered and without even a small fairing the wind will get on your nerves. (had a funny moment one summers day when i forgot to zip up my jacket - spent 15 mins wondering why the damned thing felt so slow - i must have looked like the michelin man!)

Anyway if i was starting again i'd prob look at the fazer or similar from other makers. not too fast but with enough power to make a commute fun and enough power to keep out of trouble (once you learn how Eek). also you'll benefit from a lower seat height, and flat high bars - riding a bike is a physical thing and whilst you apply basic skills to the real road you really don't want to have to cope with aching wrists, stiff neck and sore back too. your strenght will increase as you ride more. finally bikes of this ilk won't be too expensive to insure so you'll be able to buy a decent lid & leathers not some 100 quid piece of tat. (you should be bugeting some 600+ for lid leathers, gloves, boots waterproofs and panniers. don't even think of frank thomas as a vendor of quality kit - they aren't!!)
Posted on: 24 November 2004 by Two-Sheds
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you should be bugeting some 600+ for lid leathers, gloves, boots waterproofs and panniers.


I'll second that. Getting decent protective gear is a must, I shudder every time I see a biker in a T-shirt, shorts and trainers. It can be the difference between a very painful crash and walking away unharmed.

I think part of CBT is actually a talk about safety gear (this is going back about 8 years to when I did mine) so listen there. Also places that offer CBT usually have lids and stuff for hire during the CBT if so that would be a good option. At CBT ask the instructor if he would recommend any good shops locally (or ask on here if anyone is local to you).

They may all sell the same kit, but some shops will be happy to seel you badly fitting stuff. I've always had a problem buying a lid since my head seems to be an odd shape. One time I went to a new shop and tried on a few (3 or 4) models in various sizes and none of them fitted properly, but the sales person insisted that they did and was trying to pressure me to buy and was insulting for me for wasting his time when I left. I went to another shop where I tried on about 10 models (in various sizes) before finding one that fitted and the sales person there was happy to keep getting lids out of the back room and as soon as it was apparent it didn't fit he was off to find another one.
Posted on: 25 November 2004 by J.N.
Brian and Steve;

Yes indeed. It is of course, 'The Mountain' at Cadwell. I was lucky enough to take this photo when one of the riders grounded something and produced some sparks.

My favourite circuit for bike racing.

John.
Posted on: 26 November 2004 by Hawk
Cadwell is a great circuit, ive raced a bike there many times Big Grin and bent a couple in the process!