Personality on Hi Fi Fora

Posted by: Tarquin Maynard - Portly on 11 October 2004

Muchachos

In common wiuth many of us, I post on more than one HiFi Forum. It has struck me of late, how much pointless polemic there is on the 'net, where you are not allowed to express Opinion: where people can be downright rude to you and bleat to the Mods when you reply in kind, and where conjecture and suppostion is presented as FACT and dont you dare argue.

IMO, this Forum is very lightly Moderated - there seems to be a good deal of self-censorship here, whereby contributors will say, politely ( at first, anyway ) that what you are saying may not make sense. From what I see there is very little actual intervention by the Mods - one racist clot was removed, quite rightly, by Adam Meredith recently.

An example of the approach to stroppy posts - I misread something by Deanne F, very recently, and made some childish comments. Rather than yapping to the Mods or indulging in polemic insult overkill. he pm'd me, very politely, asking what he had done to upset me. By this time I had realised my error and nearly died of shame. I had no hesitation in apologising.

To me, this is the mark of a more adult Forum: tolerance of other peoples' point of view, and an acceptance that other posters are people too.

Elsewhere, I expressed my thoughts about what I saw as poor form: this lead to about six other people chiming in and one of them eventually called me a c**t. Charming.

Thanks to all of my fellow posters, I know that on occassion I am abrasive but I certainly feel more tolerated and even accepted here than elsewhere. Hats off to the Mods, too.

Regards

Mike

[This message was edited by mike lacey on Mon 11 October 2004 at 9:42.]

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Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Trevor Newall
deane, don't you mean non-conventional brain?

TN
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Alex S.
Stallion, what, pray, is yaught racing?

Joe, My name is Alex Schouvaloff - hence Alex S.
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Trevor Newall
eh?

TN
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by reductionist
quote:
Originally posted by Alex S.:
Joe, My name is Alex Schouvaloff - hence Alex S.



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Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Rasher
Excuse me butting in here..but Tom - How is it rude and disrepectful to not conform to certain writing standards? I can't say that I would be offended. I'm not having a go - I just don't see the connection.
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Trevor Newall
tom, I'm sorry if I've offended you somehow, but all I meant was that I'll write the way I want to.
I didn't mean it in a nasty way.
and besides, why should I have to "conform"?
there are others here who clearly don't write the way you'd like them to, so I'm somewhat mystified as to why my style of writing seems to be the only one under scrutiny.
no hard feelings!

TN
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
quote:
Originally posted by Deane F:

Were you hoping that "ficticious" is a verb?

Deane


There is no Noun that cannot be verbed.

Regards

Mike

Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Lo Fi Si
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
I'm about to puke.


You haven't been sampling some of your own handiwork have you Gary?

Simon
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Trevor Newall
quote:
Trevor

No worries. It's not worth fighting over, even if I prefer to see language used "properly".



that's fine, tom.
it's certainly not worth fighting over, and you're as entitled to prefer to see language used properly as I am to choose to write the way I like.
can you please just answer this, though:

quote:
there are others here who clearly don't write the way you'd like them to, so I'm somewhat mystified as to why my style of writing seems to be the only one under scrutiny?



a rule, if it is a rule, should apply to everyone!

quote:
The argument is partly 'cos TN has been asked by several people in the past to tidy up his typing.



indeed. I'm such an obnoxious deviant.
please excuse my flippancy! Smile

quote:
Willfully disregarding the accepted norm can be seen as thumbing one's nose at the need to communicate clearly or to respect those who hold conservative values. In a work situation it wouldn't be acceptable, so why is acceptable with strangers on a common forum?



tom, again, with all due respect (and I mean it), I think you need to lighten up.
I don't think there's any problem with people understanding me.
just because I can't be arsed writing the way you'd like me to, doesn't mean I'm not communicating clearly.

quote:
My feeling is one needs to be even more polite here rather than less so.



agreed.
I'm always polite to those who are polite to me.
however I do find this etiquette thing you seem to consider so important rather amusing and, sorry, quite snooty.
this is a bloody internet forum, not a upper-class dinner party!

quote:
Everyone makes typos and grammatical errors but with TN he has stated that he intentionally writes sloppily for his own amusement.



erm, no I don't.
I do it 'cos I'm a lazy b*stard Big Grin
please learn to live with it, tom.

regards,
TN
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Alex S.
Reductionist, its dad who writes the proper stuff. I just write this crap.
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Alex S.
Tom, ignore the four footed energy monster.
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Trevor Newall
alex,
what on earth are you on about?

tom,
we're cool Smile
I won't hold it against you for not answering my question Winker

TN
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
Netiquette

If someone types poorly, it maybe because they cannot be bothered: they cannot type in any other manner ( ie poor speller / dislexia ): or they find it amusing.

I would hesitate to correct someones' verbal pronunciation - "excuse me, you dropped an "h" " and there will always be grammatical errors. If thats how people talk or type, who are we to correct them?

What DOES get on my bosoms is people talking in eg. the third person singular. On another chatroom I frequent, one of my fellow yappers will continually comment along the lines of <Bert pauses for thought>. This is just a failed attempt at humour that remains unfunny no matter how many times it is repeated.

And as for "joke" taglines....... Mad

Regards

Mike

Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Joe Petrik
Trevor,

For what it's worth, I fully support your right to write whichever way you please. I obviously prefer "proper" easy-to-read English (in the sense of correct spelling, good grammar, some semblance of logic and organization, legible typography, etc.), but don't take that as an implied preference for stuffy, bureaucratic language over a more relaxed, breezy and conversational tone. I'm all for pulling the pickle out of language's arse and that, incidentally, is more or less what I do at work.

But forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical of your assertion that you took my comment in the spirit in which it was intended -- what I had hoped would be seen as a harmless in-joke. If I had called you a "fu*king language-debasing hotel bellhop!" and then threw in a smilie after telling you to like or lump it, you would be correct to question my sincerity.

Joe
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Trevor Newall
quote:
Originally posted by mike lacey:
If thats how people talk or type, who are we to correct them?



precisely, mike!

joe,
like I said, you do your thing, and I'll do mine.
let us respect each other's right to post as we wish.

TN