More kids?
Posted by: Rasher on 15 July 2004
Tell me guys - Is having three kids over two much different? Like holidays and restaurants and days out etc etc etc.
Is there little practical difference, or is it all change?
Is there little practical difference, or is it all change?
Posted on: 16 July 2004 by Derek Wright
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So why did I forget it in this instance?
You were sidetracked by the arrangement of the childs face (and also in other mammals eg puppies) that make some humans go "goo goo eyed" and protective and wanting to nurture the baby/puppy - and then reason and common sense flies out the window.
Unfortunately human responses have not wised up to the economic/ecological requirements of the world.
Bring back the "Hill of Sparta" test <g>
Derek
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Posted on: 16 July 2004 by Rasher
Oooh, you're a hard man Derek 
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by Rasher
I agree Andrew - abortion is not an option*. What will be will be.
(*For us anyway. I suppose there are cases that can be argued in extremely unusual circumstances)
(*For us anyway. I suppose there are cases that can be argued in extremely unusual circumstances)
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by domfjbrown
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Originally posted by Derek Wright:
...no one has discussed the impact on the earth's resources if the Rashers of this world breed more than an heir and a spare - over the next few generations the third one's descendants will tip the earth into a precipitous decline of excess CO2 and depleted resources.
Urm, what do you mean by "WILL TIP" - it's happened already - probably 40 years ago.
I love the way I get shot down in flames almost every time I say there's no way in this life I'd ever want kids. Personally I think I'm being very socially responsible.
That said, I'm guessing people on this forum can at least AFFORD to pay for their own kids, even if the planet's resources can't, so one out of two ain't too bad.
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Posted on: 20 July 2004 by Rasher
I'm not so sure.
My sister (I have only one) has no children and isn't having any.
My wife has 5 brothers - the total children they have is 8. So that is a total of 14 adults in my family generation having produced only 10 children. If I start going through my immediate friends, the same thing happens by almost exactly the same ratio. From where I stand, it would appear that population is in decline. I think that is a good thing personally. Obviously I don't suggest that this is representitive, I just don't know. I suppose living here in Brighton, a large gay community will always have an effect on these figures.
My sister (I have only one) has no children and isn't having any.
My wife has 5 brothers - the total children they have is 8. So that is a total of 14 adults in my family generation having produced only 10 children. If I start going through my immediate friends, the same thing happens by almost exactly the same ratio. From where I stand, it would appear that population is in decline. I think that is a good thing personally. Obviously I don't suggest that this is representitive, I just don't know. I suppose living here in Brighton, a large gay community will always have an effect on these figures.
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by DavidY80
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Originally posted by domfjbrown:
I love the way I get shot down in flames almost every time I say there's no way in this life I'd ever want kids.
I used to say that.....funny but I now have 3 kids. I also use to say I'd never buy life insurance, I'd always ride motorbikes, I'd never own a Volvo....guess what?
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by Joe Petrik
Derek,
As environmentalists, we certainly didn't dismiss the ecological implications of having a child. But the missus and I are helping offset the added consumption by having only one child and waiting until our fourth decade to do so... and waiting until we were 35 before buying our first and only car (Corolla), and using crappy-but-efficient Class B amps, and recycling at least 80% of our waste, and eating low on the food chain, and not being bothered that we have a 14-year-old 20-inch TV, and...
Meanwhile, our neighbours -- a single couple in their 20s, who say they don't want kids -- have two SUVs, can't go a block without driving one of them, eat out almost every night, throw out (no joke) their working 26-inch TV because they just bought a wide-screen HD projection TV, and....
I do understand your concern about added consumption, but we're hoping to raise a child who treads lightly on the planet herself and, for all we know, may even contribute to its well being.
Joe
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...no one has discussed the impact on the earth's resources if the Rashers of this world breed more than an heir and a spare - over the next few generations the third one's descendants will tip the earth into a precipitous decline of excess CO2 and depleted resources.
As environmentalists, we certainly didn't dismiss the ecological implications of having a child. But the missus and I are helping offset the added consumption by having only one child and waiting until our fourth decade to do so... and waiting until we were 35 before buying our first and only car (Corolla), and using crappy-but-efficient Class B amps, and recycling at least 80% of our waste, and eating low on the food chain, and not being bothered that we have a 14-year-old 20-inch TV, and...
Meanwhile, our neighbours -- a single couple in their 20s, who say they don't want kids -- have two SUVs, can't go a block without driving one of them, eat out almost every night, throw out (no joke) their working 26-inch TV because they just bought a wide-screen HD projection TV, and....
I do understand your concern about added consumption, but we're hoping to raise a child who treads lightly on the planet herself and, for all we know, may even contribute to its well being.
Joe
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by Derek Wright
Joe
Peace
The original topic was about upgrading from to two to three and it's impact on the parents life etc.
Derek
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Peace
The original topic was about upgrading from to two to three and it's impact on the parents life etc.
Derek
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Posted on: 20 July 2004 by Joe Petrik
Derek,
True, but you were the one who brought up the Malthusian doomsday scenarios.
Joe
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The original topic was about upgrading from to two to three and it's impact on the parents life etc.
True, but you were the one who brought up the Malthusian doomsday scenarios.
Joe
Posted on: 20 July 2004 by Alex S.
Well, I've got 3. Its all pretty staightforward - its a lot more work and a lot more pleasure and a lot more expensive. I'm sure they'll all grow up to save the planet.