FAO naim admin - what happened to my thread?

mike.
thanks for the glib remarks, but the whole point of this is how do you know what these 'grey areas' are with regard to what's allowed in discussion topics if no one in authority informs you?
what I was discussing could not have been considered as offensive, or even unsafe [if you read what I wrote, I was advocating the use of stock fuses] therefore it was not obvious to me in any way whatsoever that I shouldn't have been mentioning the subject of fuses.

TN

trev and mike

please let it go.

think about what matters most to you both and you will realise (hopefully) that it is neither the naim forum nor fuses.

"Glib" is my limit...

Its Naims forum, and failure to delete a post that outlines a pratice that can cause problems ( and lets not get into that here ) could be seen as condoning the practice. Someone does it, the kit blows up and a resulting fire burns down their house, they turn to Naim who let the post stand.

Its their Forum, their rules. If you dont like it, thats your problem. If you re-read the tone of your queries, they are somewhat intemperate.

An apology would not harm anybody....

Regards

Mike

Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.

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Originally posted by alexgerrard:
Getting all upset because a reply came on the next working day is not appropriate.

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not sure where you're coming from here alex, I wasn't "all upset" because richard didn't reply to me until this morning.
I was "all upset" because I had spent time and effort posting something for it then to be deleted out of the blue without any explanation as to why it happened.
I too don't have a problem with what rd has said, but hopefully something can be done so that this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
it's simply a learning process.

TN

p.s I'm also with andy c!

How about a forum FAQ as a sticky topic?

-- woody

And a listing of the unwritten rules that must not be transgressed...

Paul

If Richard has a sense of humour he would delete this thread without a word of explanation.

Not least becuase several post here clearly imply that replacing case fuses with children's fingers greatly improves sound quality.

Matthew

sounds like a good idea to me.

TN

Trevor,

As a relative Forum-newbie myself, I completely understand you wanting to know what happened to your post. However in the short 2 months I have been a member I have had the chance to read other threads about mains and recognise what a taboo subject equipment fuses are.

I have also learnt that people will take the time out to answer your queries, as Richard Dane has done this morning, but asking...

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Originally posted by Trevor Newall:

where the f*** has it gone??????????????

TN

(who's more than a bit pissed off!!)

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...in the above manner, whilst understanding your frustration, does risk getting people's backs up just a litte bit.

Regards,

JonR

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Not least becuase several post here clearly imply that replacing case fuses with children's fingers greatly improves sound quality

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And also that licking transformers is cheaper than a visit to Trevor Sorbie or Tony n Guy.

Trevor - I realise why and when you were all upset. My suggestion was badly phrased, I am without sleep

ag

jonr.
I take you're point, and you're right!
I just don't like my time being wasted - just a pet hate of mine that's all.
apologies to all concerned for my outburst.
there's probably enough been said on the matter now, so perhaps matthew's right.
or, strictly speaking, this should be taken to the padded cell.

alex.
no problem!

TN

Tsk, tsk.

How could we possibly think someone might have a problem when they appear to start all their posts with "Chaps" and welcome newcomers with a slagging completely out of proportion to the question posed.

I agree with the deletion of the thread and with the idea of a warning. People's reaction to the warning is irrelevant. What actually matters are the legal requirements and someone at Naim seems blissfully unaware of these! Interesting!!!

Is Mrs. Mick a "chap" then?

Glad to see we make the forum as welcoming as possible for women!!!

Mr Newall

You said

"(who's looking for a bloody good explanation from richard dane!)"

That is why I pulled you up, that is self centered and immature foot stomping like a small kid and do not whinge when you get pulled up. There was no excuse for that tone.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

Perhaps, but...

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
You are acting like a publicity seeking slut.

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...does seem to me to be a slight case of over-egging the pudding just a tad, n'est-ce pas?

Regards

JonR

I suppose the answer to your question is based on whether you think Mr Newalls sentence was lacking in respect or not.

I still think is was childish, petulant and unnecessary.

Regards

Mick

mick,

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Mr Newall

You said

"(who's looking for a bloody good explanation from richard dane!)"

That is why I pulled you up, that is self centered and immature foot stomping like a small kid and do not whinge when you get pulled up. There was no excuse for that tone.

Regards

Mick

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then it was for richard to comment - not you!
since when have you become the arbitrator of what behaviour is acceptable and what isn't?
your headmaster approach to things you don't consider right does you no favours, nor does your tendency to adopt using someone's surname in response to a person who disagrees with you.
truce?

TN
(who'd like to be known as trev or trevor, and not mr newall)

Moderators

Please pull this thread. It's getting a bit tedious and superflous now.

Ta.

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since when have you become the arbitrator of what behaviour is acceptable and what isn't?

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Mick has been self-appointed arbiter of acceptable behaviour for as long as I can remember, Trevor.

I sometimes wonder whether his more dogmatic statements are "tongue-in -cheek" with the express intention of stirring up controversy...I find it hard to accept that many of his comments are intended to be taken seriously


I`m sure that Mick is a nice guy.....


Laurie S

[This message was edited by Laurie Saunders on Fri 30 April 2004 at 15:52.]

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Originally posted by Trevor Newall:
apologies to all concerned for my outburst.
there's probably enough been said on the matter now,

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Good man.

And So To Bed?

Regards

Mike

Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.

It seems like this thread is getting a lot of publicity, so it should be a good place to make a statement about non-standard fuses, especially for USA consumption. Also, go back and read Richard Dane's statement on liability, which is reason enough to avoid trying out any crazy ideas.

Every 7-10 years, people start trying bigger fuses, or copper rods as fuses, or whatever. On the last wave I tried all of the above, just to see and hear if there was something good about it.

There wasn't. It sounded much less good than stock. If your system is working like it should, the standard fuse in the correct direction sounds best. If your system is NOT setup correctly, you might get a different result, but you are still comparing two less than perfect results.

I highly recommend, if you are on a binge of trying to get to sonic nirvana, which is certainly a good place to end up, work on the things that do matter in system setup, and/or upgrade your kit. I guarantee results.

I haven't touched my system in months. If you get it right, you can just listen and enjoy.

C Koster

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Originally posted by Chris Koster, nana:
I highly recommend, if you are on a binge of trying to get to sonic nirvana, which is certainly a good place to end up, work on the things that do matter in system setup, and/or upgrade your kit. I guarantee results.

I haven't touched my system in months. If you get it right, you can just listen and enjoy.

C Koster

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Chris,

I agree but, judging by the attention to detail paid by many members of this Forum, any mains-related tweaks that may be made will unlikely preclude the equipment upgrades as well as the usual 'standard' tweaks (ie. equipment stands/placement, etc.), if only to 'cover all bases' if you know what I mean!

Regards,

JonR

-true, and there are some mains stuff that does matter a lot, including what I think is probably the most important one, which is the direction of the wire going to the outlets from the breaker box. This is a critical hidden issue, which means that it probably pays to run two runs to your hifi, one each way, if you remodel your house, and listen both ways. I can't promise the degree of result that you will find, but it matters with power cords, and I am pretty sure I got it wrong last time when I put in the dedicated line, and, as a result, I am using the regular house circuit which is better, even with thinner wire and spurs.

It could be that the house wire is better, but I don't think so. I used the same fat wire for another system and it does not sound backwards, but this is somewhat intuition, and more experiments are needed.

Other details for the USA are in the naimusa.com site.

C Koster

Trevor

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Your fuse is so short it wouldn't reach anyway.

What is your wasted time in comparison with all of ours? 1600 views at the last count?

We might have been enjoying some music instead.

But we were forced to read your thread in case this was some matter of great importance.

It was not.

Back to the plot:

Nime

Well I've just learnt from Chris Koster my system isn't set up properly. So it wasn't all wasted

It's an ill wind... Tom

Nime