Washing Machines
Posted by: Simon Douglass on 10 November 2004
Well the Bosch washer we bought 7yrs ago is reaching the built-in obsolescent stage beloved of all white goods manufacturers.The prospect of paying large repair bills and a rising phone bill whilst trying to get through to service departments does make the alternative of buying a new one more likely.
Any forum favourites that aren't in the NAIM price range?[i.e. 4-600 quid seems about ok to me].We like Miele, but their prices are a bit daft especially as I'm saving hard for the next HiFi upgrade[but domestic priorities take precedence here!]
Thanks for any advice
Simon
Any forum favourites that aren't in the NAIM price range?[i.e. 4-600 quid seems about ok to me].We like Miele, but their prices are a bit daft especially as I'm saving hard for the next HiFi upgrade[but domestic priorities take precedence here!]
Thanks for any advice
Simon
Posted on: 10 November 2004 by Fozz
Ones that work best with crabtree plugs eh?
Having had a run of Candys that are either too
poor to work for 4 years or crease everything to b****y I have had enough. Repair engineer
said that all machines no matter what make are made by tormented pixies in spain and have gremlins put in small plastic bags in the drum.
If you undo the transit screws in the wrong order they escape...
On last failure decided to pay for the most expensive machine in Comet which was AEG. So far so good, sounds nice too. No idea if I'll
get 5 years out of it though.
If I were you I would buy the Naim one, I have had many cheap ones and they are false economy like so many things.
Gary
Having had a run of Candys that are either too
poor to work for 4 years or crease everything to b****y I have had enough. Repair engineer
said that all machines no matter what make are made by tormented pixies in spain and have gremlins put in small plastic bags in the drum.
If you undo the transit screws in the wrong order they escape...
On last failure decided to pay for the most expensive machine in Comet which was AEG. So far so good, sounds nice too. No idea if I'll
get 5 years out of it though.
If I were you I would buy the Naim one, I have had many cheap ones and they are false economy like so many things.
Gary
Posted on: 10 November 2004 by justiceklopper
i discovered yesterday that nokia 6600's are not washing machine proof.
kiiro muse 128mb mp3 players, however, are!
kiiro muse 128mb mp3 players, however, are!
Posted on: 10 November 2004 by Simon Douglass
Thanks for the laugh Gary
Sounds like we've done quite well with our current machine then, given it's been pretty faultless up until now.
Might check out AEG as we have and AEG fridge,which has been ok[for chilling food that is]
I suppose if NAIM made washing machines the pre-wash would be in a different box from the main wash.Bet it would sound good though..
Simon
Sounds like we've done quite well with our current machine then, given it's been pretty faultless up until now.
Might check out AEG as we have and AEG fridge,which has been ok[for chilling food that is]
I suppose if NAIM made washing machines the pre-wash would be in a different box from the main wash.Bet it would sound good though..
Simon
Posted on: 10 November 2004 by Dan M
Launders a 5-lb. load of medium to lightweight wearables quickly, effectively, and without a single watt of electricity. Portable, lightweight, and easy to use - load up the barrel, add water and soap, screw on the pressure lid, and turn the handle.
As long as you work this will work and free up the cash for the next upgrade.
cheers
Dan
Posted on: 10 November 2004 by Chunny Nochubb
Is it actually broken?
I found the auhtorised service centre BSH Appliance Care were generally quite good. they do bosch/neff/siemens. They fixed our neff 18 year old oven, sorted out our now 13 year old bosch fridge/freezer but could not repair our then 7 year old bosch dishwasher (things kept falling on to the external element) at about £50 a go. (nothing major required)
So far nothing has gone wrong with 10 year old bosch washing machine and the smaller bosch fridge/freezer which must be at least 16 years old and touch wood I have no intention of replacing any of them for a long time.
CNC
I found the auhtorised service centre BSH Appliance Care were generally quite good. they do bosch/neff/siemens. They fixed our neff 18 year old oven, sorted out our now 13 year old bosch fridge/freezer but could not repair our then 7 year old bosch dishwasher (things kept falling on to the external element) at about £50 a go. (nothing major required)
So far nothing has gone wrong with 10 year old bosch washing machine and the smaller bosch fridge/freezer which must be at least 16 years old and touch wood I have no intention of replacing any of them for a long time.
CNC
Posted on: 10 November 2004 by Bob McC
The thing about washing machines is we often expect them to do more than can be reasonably asked of them. F'rinstance when my missus and I were just two we had an Indesit for 10 years. Now we are a family of 5 and the washing machine is on twice a day at least. We get through them every 3 years. I've had Philips, Servis, Indesit. Now we're on a Bosch. I saw an ad for Miele recently offering 5 years parts and labour guarantee which seems worth the premium you pay for the name.
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by seagull
We bought a Miele a few years ago. The salespeople in the shop reckoned it was the Mercedes of the washing machine world and that they reckon their machines are good for 15 years use. It wasn't that much more than the Zanussi it replaced so if it does last that long then we're quids in! What is the phrase? Buy cheap , buy twice (or something like that).
They are bloody heavy though, built like a tank. The delivery men always curse when they have to deliver the Meile machines. I had to move ours as we were having our kitchen floor tiled and very nearly did my back in moving it.
They are bloody heavy though, built like a tank. The delivery men always curse when they have to deliver the Meile machines. I had to move ours as we were having our kitchen floor tiled and very nearly did my back in moving it.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by JohanR
Yes, Miele:s are very good, my parents had one.
Personally, as a confirmed anglophiliac I use a Hoover (probably the only one outside Britain )
JohanR
Personally, as a confirmed anglophiliac I use a Hoover (probably the only one outside Britain )
JohanR
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by Simon Douglass
Thanks chaps. I agree with Bob, we probably do expect a little too much. We have 2 boys that are getting into rugby now and it's all we can do to keep on top of all the grubby kit they deposit around the house.
I agree with buy cheap, buy twice, but the washer we have now definitely wasn't cheap.
That nap 300 is getting further away.....
I agree with buy cheap, buy twice, but the washer we have now definitely wasn't cheap.
That nap 300 is getting further away.....
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by Bob McC
I notice in today's press that Siemens are offering a 10 year parts and labour guarantee on some of their washers.
Bob
Bob
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by Nime
"Hoover" the washing machine communist Skoda wouldn't have dared to build?
Nime
Nime
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by Hawk
quote:
Originally posted by bob mccluckie:
I notice in today's press that Siemens are offering a 10 year parts and labour guarantee on some of their washers.
Bob
We recently bought a Siemens washing machine, it came with a standard 5 year warranty and sounds v quiet... so far so good...
I think they are part of the bosch group or visa versa...
It replaced a hotpoint which IMHO was a pile of crap... drum bearings went at 2 years, which according to the engineer that told us to skip it, is a common fault with Hotpoints...
Posted on: 13 November 2004 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by justiceklopper:
i discovered yesterday that nokia 6600's are not washing machine proof.
There is a repair shop near us that advertises a 80%+ success rate repairing phones with water damage, for about £25.
cheers, Martin
E-mail:- MartinPayne (at) Dial.Pipex.com. Put "Naim" in the title.
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by Johns Naim
I purchased the then top-of-the-line Miele Washer plus matching condenser dryer approx 4 yrs ago, after much research and agonising over the price, and now wouldn't have anything else.
The service was exemplary, the product gives the best results I've ever experienced from a washer; both top and front loading. My clothes are cleaner, and definitely last longer.
Miele claim a designed lifespan of 10,000 wash cycles. For me, at approx 4 loads minimum per week, that worked out at 24.8 yrs use. Doing the sums with a more 'moderate' costing machine shows the Miele to be well ahead over time - if it lasts of course.
So far it's been completely trouble free, and the quietness and smoothness of operation are significant pluses - it may not see me out, but it will probably be close...
Best
John...
This is my last upgrade.... after this my system will be finished...:-)
The service was exemplary, the product gives the best results I've ever experienced from a washer; both top and front loading. My clothes are cleaner, and definitely last longer.
Miele claim a designed lifespan of 10,000 wash cycles. For me, at approx 4 loads minimum per week, that worked out at 24.8 yrs use. Doing the sums with a more 'moderate' costing machine shows the Miele to be well ahead over time - if it lasts of course.
So far it's been completely trouble free, and the quietness and smoothness of operation are significant pluses - it may not see me out, but it will probably be close...
Best
John...
This is my last upgrade.... after this my system will be finished...:-)
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by Reginald Halliday
I'm sure I read somewhere that Dyson are developing one which doesn't need water.