RSI or what
Posted by: garyi on 13 September 2004
I am not sure what to think, but my right wrist has become really painful. It started suddenly on Saturday, I was a tadge drunk on the Friday so am not sure if I wacked it or slept on it or in some way damaged it.
However I am worried that it is RSI. I use either a wacom pen or mouse and have never had any symptoms before but I am concerned none the less.
The pain is only in the wrist not the hands themselves, but it feel painful when turning the steering wheel etc. It doesn't hurt when using the mouse or pen, but does afterwards.
As I said it only started Saturday with no warning.
I looked around the web but kept finding crap sites trying to sell me things, with no real information, I could be suffering RSI I don't really know for sure, there is no shoulder or back pain.
Any info gratefully received, and if the first two posters or Fritz wants to get the inevitable wanking jokes over and done with that would also be great!
However I am worried that it is RSI. I use either a wacom pen or mouse and have never had any symptoms before but I am concerned none the less.
The pain is only in the wrist not the hands themselves, but it feel painful when turning the steering wheel etc. It doesn't hurt when using the mouse or pen, but does afterwards.
As I said it only started Saturday with no warning.
I looked around the web but kept finding crap sites trying to sell me things, with no real information, I could be suffering RSI I don't really know for sure, there is no shoulder or back pain.
Any info gratefully received, and if the first two posters or Fritz wants to get the inevitable wanking jokes over and done with that would also be great!
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
Gary
"tadge drunk..." I didn't know you did understatement..
One obvious test is to rest your wrist for a day or two, if possible, to see if the pain goes away.
Any bruising or other signs of a drunken fall?
Regards
Mike
Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.
"tadge drunk..." I didn't know you did understatement..
One obvious test is to rest your wrist for a day or two, if possible, to see if the pain goes away.
Any bruising or other signs of a drunken fall?
Regards
Mike
Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by garyi
Na nothing, no swelling just feels painful. I still have a fair amount of grip but after it feels painful over the whole hand.
If I press up my arm a ways it feels quite tender on the underside.
Most odd.
If I press up my arm a ways it feels quite tender on the underside.
Most odd.
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by Rasher
Probably it will be gone in 2 days and you will never know what it was all about. If not you must see your GP.
This sort of thing has happened to me and I have eventually remembered that I tried to lift something really heavy or something stupid, or carried a very heavy briefcase for a long walk. Very unlikely to be something lasting IMO.
This sort of thing has happened to me and I have eventually remembered that I tried to lift something really heavy or something stupid, or carried a very heavy briefcase for a long walk. Very unlikely to be something lasting IMO.
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by David Stewart
Advice given to me by my physio. Try taking strong pain-killers like Ibuprofen for about 3 days. They contain anti-inflamatories which help the healing process. If that doesn't bring about a significant improvement then go to the doc just in case you broke something.
David
David
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by garyi
Thank guys I will do that.
I notice that really I can't put any weight on that hand, so am more inclined to think I have hurt it somehow, I will keep an eye and mabye see the doc (Total nightmare round here)
I notice that really I can't put any weight on that hand, so am more inclined to think I have hurt it somehow, I will keep an eye and mabye see the doc (Total nightmare round here)
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by JonR
Gary,
I experience something similar every so often. I reckon it's RSI-related, and put it down to over-use of the small mouse we have at work. In the end I managed to get the bank to shell out for a mouse-mat with a special wrist rest, which gives my hand more support and makes up for the size of the mouse. It's made by Kensington and might be worth a try.
Every so often I also do some brief stretching exercises, bending my hand down about the wrist, fingers straight, just to keep the tendons stretched. A wrist-strain like this is an occupational hazard in my line of work!
Hope that helps.
Regards,
JonR
I experience something similar every so often. I reckon it's RSI-related, and put it down to over-use of the small mouse we have at work. In the end I managed to get the bank to shell out for a mouse-mat with a special wrist rest, which gives my hand more support and makes up for the size of the mouse. It's made by Kensington and might be worth a try.
Every so often I also do some brief stretching exercises, bending my hand down about the wrist, fingers straight, just to keep the tendons stretched. A wrist-strain like this is an occupational hazard in my line of work!
Hope that helps.
Regards,
JonR
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by oldie
As the late Tommy Cooper said " Doctor when I raise my arm like this it hurts" Doctor replys
"Well don't do it then " sorry Gary a bit of a p-ss take, but actually very good advice.
If after resting it for a few days the pain still persists see your GP RSI is no joke and if not sorted can be with you for life
oldie.
"Well don't do it then " sorry Gary a bit of a p-ss take, but actually very good advice.
If after resting it for a few days the pain still persists see your GP RSI is no joke and if not sorted can be with you for life
oldie.
Posted on: 13 September 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Our for a repetetive bevvy with the TUC boys tonight by any chance ?
Posted on: 14 September 2004 by oldie
No Graham,
I have heard all their crap before,what they are going to do etc,etc, the number of times in the past we have been taken down the road by them and then when Blair or a offer of a knighthood is dangled in front of them, guess what happens, in my opinion there is not much to choose between,the new breed of trade Union leaders /new age Politicians/Royals, we would be much better off without any of them.
A maybe, rather cynical oldie.
I have heard all their crap before,what they are going to do etc,etc, the number of times in the past we have been taken down the road by them and then when Blair or a offer of a knighthood is dangled in front of them, guess what happens, in my opinion there is not much to choose between,the new breed of trade Union leaders /new age Politicians/Royals, we would be much better off without any of them.
A maybe, rather cynical oldie.
Posted on: 14 September 2004 by Jay
gayri
Something else you could try if you are using a PC at work and then at home at night is to swap mouse hands. Let me explain....
I damaged my right shoulder playing tennis, went to the physio at the time, but it's never quite healed properly. After a while I began to get a dull ache at the end of a work day in my shoulder and wrist. I started using my left hand at work and my right at home. It was quite difficult at first but after a week I didn't even notice the transition.
My left arm has been broken twice, once very severely, so it's not as accurate, but somehow that doesn't seem to matter at work!
Oh and excise the joints ever hour or so too.
Jay
Something else you could try if you are using a PC at work and then at home at night is to swap mouse hands. Let me explain....
I damaged my right shoulder playing tennis, went to the physio at the time, but it's never quite healed properly. After a while I began to get a dull ache at the end of a work day in my shoulder and wrist. I started using my left hand at work and my right at home. It was quite difficult at first but after a week I didn't even notice the transition.
My left arm has been broken twice, once very severely, so it's not as accurate, but somehow that doesn't seem to matter at work!
Oh and excise the joints ever hour or so too.
Jay
Posted on: 14 September 2004 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by oldie:
No Graham,
I have heard all their crap before,what they are going to do etc,etc, the number of times in the past we have been taken down the road by them and then when Blair or a offer of a knighthood is dangled in front of them, guess what happens, in my opinion there is not much to choose between,the new breed of trade Union leaders /new age Politicians/Royals, we would be much better off without any of them.
A maybe, rather cynical oldie.
Without adding injury to the seriousness of the original point of this thread, it does kinda fit together nicely with that repetitive TUC mumbo jumbo though doesn't it ?
Graham George Of Obsessivecupulsivefame
I did like their biscuits though, a touch of stilton and a wee drop of port (Guess which kind ?)
Posted on: 15 September 2004 by Andrew L. Weekes
quote:
and if the first two posters or Fritz wants to get the inevitable wanking jokes over and done with that would also be great!
Well, no-one else rose to the bait...
Actually, I've been suffering the same the past week, in my case it's the change from a Wacom pen, which I use at home and work, to using a mouse on a CAD station.
Fearing that it might severely impact my sex life, I got a mouse mat with a gel wrist wrest and a gel rest for the keyboard, which has helped.
I'd noticed it was also irritated a little when on my new mountain bike too, I thought originally it was the transition from the road bike, with its different hand positioning, but after a rest for a couple of days I can ride fine, without any discomfort, so I think it was just irritating the RSI-induced pain.
AS someone mentioned above, Ibuprofen is a good choice for the pain, as it's anti-inflammatory.
Andy.
Posted on: 15 September 2004 by garyi
Thanks everyone for the advice.
I am sure you will all sleep better this evening knowing that the pain is slowly going, still a little tender but no where near as bad, so I am assuming I slept on it or something.
I am sure you will all sleep better this evening knowing that the pain is slowly going, still a little tender but no where near as bad, so I am assuming I slept on it or something.
Posted on: 15 September 2004 by Mike Hughes
Sounds to me like you have severely jarred your arm or wrist somewhere along the line. I guess it depends on the percentage of your PC time you spend with a mouse. At home I use nothing but a Wacom pen and have no problem. In work, I have a mouse and I get frequent problems.
I have also found that my work workstation does not afford me the same good posture that I can achieve at home and, with all the gel rests in the world, that does make a significant difference.
IMHO the anti-inflammatory advice is, at best, debateable. Painkillers tend to deceive the body into thinking that an action is doing less damage than it is actually doing simply because you go through periods of not feeling the pain. Thus, you are tempted to carry on as normal or at a level that feels fine when, in fact, you are sustaining further damage.
I suffered a fairly bad back injury a few years ago playing football (sufficiently bad to require an ambulance). My recovery was damaged by my wrongly being encouraged to take painkillers for an early period.
I was back in work inside three weeks having been told it would be ten at least. Sure enough, ten months later I collapsed and the problem had been caused by my body being over-exerted at a point when the pain (had I been able to feel it) should have been broadcasting to me the fact that my body wished to rest.
Now, this is not on the same scale but, having had similar wrist problems to yourself, I found that exactly the same happened when I took painkillers. My wrist pain reoccurred over a period of weeks despite much less PC use. Next time I had the problem I let the pain be the guide and the problem went away after three days and only comes back when I overdo my work usage of a mouse.
Mike
I have also found that my work workstation does not afford me the same good posture that I can achieve at home and, with all the gel rests in the world, that does make a significant difference.
IMHO the anti-inflammatory advice is, at best, debateable. Painkillers tend to deceive the body into thinking that an action is doing less damage than it is actually doing simply because you go through periods of not feeling the pain. Thus, you are tempted to carry on as normal or at a level that feels fine when, in fact, you are sustaining further damage.
I suffered a fairly bad back injury a few years ago playing football (sufficiently bad to require an ambulance). My recovery was damaged by my wrongly being encouraged to take painkillers for an early period.
I was back in work inside three weeks having been told it would be ten at least. Sure enough, ten months later I collapsed and the problem had been caused by my body being over-exerted at a point when the pain (had I been able to feel it) should have been broadcasting to me the fact that my body wished to rest.
Now, this is not on the same scale but, having had similar wrist problems to yourself, I found that exactly the same happened when I took painkillers. My wrist pain reoccurred over a period of weeks despite much less PC use. Next time I had the problem I let the pain be the guide and the problem went away after three days and only comes back when I overdo my work usage of a mouse.
Mike
Posted on: 16 September 2004 by The mole man
I use both the keyboard and (especially) the mouse intensively at work. I am sure this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum but I found that after experiencing some recurring aches and pains in both hands and forearms I invested in a Goldtouch mouse and Fellowes gel filled wrist rest and mousemat. Now I work more productively and with no pain. They are not the cheapest around but are certainly the best I've seen. I'm freelance so in my case they are tax deductible.
They can be seen and purchased here:
http://www.back2.co.uk
Good luck.
Mole Man
They can be seen and purchased here:
http://www.back2.co.uk
Good luck.
Mole Man