new al*** from fred simon

Posted by: Anna Tooth on 12 October 2004

<drum roll> It's here! A new album from Fred, as much anticipated by some forum members.

"Remember the River" sees Fred in a trio setting once again, this time accompanied by musical alchemists Paul McCandless on English horn, oboe, soprano sax, bass clarinet and penny whistle and Steve Rodby on double bass.

Fred wrote each track on the disc, injecting his sense of beautiful musicality into every inch of the score. The piano sounds as light as a feather under his touch, the bass a perfect complement in Steve’s hands. Paul’s floating and innovative sound has the effect of transporting the whole composition to a higher plane.

For years, Paul has played with the relentlessly innovative group, Oregon, winning many awards and nominations for his playing. He is a talented multi-instrumentalist, as can be seen by reading his list of involvement on Remember The River.

Bassist and co-producer of the Pat Metheny Group, Steve Rodby has won several Grammys for his work. His rapport with the bass is second to none, easily coaxing out a deep and wondrously rich sound; smooth yet authoritative.

Remember the River was co-produced by Fred and Steve, and recorded live with two microphones by Ken Christianson. This new disc is a True Stereo recording.

You can listen to a track by clicking here:

listen to "Folk Songs of the Cold War"

buy a copy of "Remember the River"

Anna
Posted on: 13 October 2004 by Rasher
With all due respect, every album is what it is, and to suggest that it should be this or that, or whatever, is irrelevant. It has been played with the appropriate application of drums or cymbals that was required at the time of the performance, and that it just what it has become. It is a frame of mind sort of thing and is not open to debate. It is a performance. Different artists push in different directions and it is the selection of the player for the particular piece that is open to debate, not the contribution that the artist provided. You either like the style of the artist or you don't - it isn't for us to dictate how that artist applies their craft. This is Jazz for chris'sakes!
You wouldn't say of Turner - Yeah, he's good, but instead of all those dark landscapes, I wish he would paint some nice sunflowers like Van Gogh, would you! This is recognisable style - and yeah, it isn't everybodys taste - but whose is? Do you think Bill Bruford rolling all over it would have been more appropriate?
Selection of people for their style is where it starts and stops.
(that isn't a rant - more like a late night emotive view Smile)

I'm waiting for this new album to arrive - hope it's on my doormat tomorrow morning. What I am really waiting for is Fred's wildest outpourings that he would love to do but thinks no-one would buy because it's so mad. I would pay double for that one. And it's in there. We just have to wait. I want to see Fred as no-more-mister-nice-guy. It would be fun Smile It would be fucking cool Cool A solo piano job.

[This message was edited by Rasher on Thu 14 October 2004 at 0:44.]
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Rasher
quote:
I would say, I prefer Turner's more 'conventional' subject matter, rather than the abstract 'seascapes' though - and that's a better analogy I think..

No...because those are two sides to Turner's style - not the same as asking an artist to do something that they don't do.
But you are right that you said "for my taste", and I may have over-reacted. I didn't mean to tear into you. Sorry if it came over like that. Smile

Bill Bruford is a fabulous drummer, but a little over serious and anal for my taste Winker
No I haven't heard the Ted Sirota disks.
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Rasher
Mike Shrieve is the best drummer that ever walked the planet - but we've been here before.
What's up Tom ?- You've not been yourself recently Big Grin
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Rasher
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick Dixon:
I didn't ask Fred to do something he doesn't do -

No..that's what I keep doing Smile
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Sundance
OK OK Just ordered my copy Eek
Posted on: 15 October 2004 by bob atherton
Hi Anna,

Great news! I will now order my TWO copies as promised.

All the best, Bob
Posted on: 18 October 2004 by woodface
I had a listen on Sunday and I think this is a minor classic in the making. This is a truly beautiful album which all music lovers should own.
Posted on: 25 October 2004 by Emil F
What about the LP?
Posted on: 25 October 2004 by Rasher
I admit to having a bit of trouble with this new one at the moment.
Am I the only one? Probably. The musicianship and sound is awesome.
I am not disappointed though, as it's good to get something from someone you like that you don't necessarily agree with. In fact, I'm quite pleased in a way for that reason alone. C'mon Fred, where are you hiding?
Please don't be offended. I'm not done with it yet. Winker
(Me & my big mouth).
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by Colin Lorenson
Welcome to Jazz Club.....New Fred Simon.........GGGrrreeaatttt!

Colin Lorenson

I'm just feeling that way. I don't know why.
Posted on: 10 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
Hauntingly beautiful. His best yet, BUY IT.

I'm only a couple of tracks in and I'm grabbed. This was well worth the wait and all the hassling of poor Anna. This will be in the player a lot, I can tell. GOrgeous

Oh and the production is the usual high standard. Clean, rich and showing off my system to it's full.

Now back to the music. I'm very happy.

Thanks Fred and Anna.


You're more than welcome, Tom. Thanks for the resounding endorsement; I'm so glad you're digging the new album.

All the best,
Fred
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Lees:
Fred,

This is great news, but I think it's a bit shabby of Naim not to have stumped up a big enough advance for you to be able to afford a drummer.


I know you're just teasing, but in fact it was my decision based solely on my desire to showcase the profound musicianship of bassist Steve Rodby, who I think is greatly under-appreciated. There is something very pure about the piano/bass/woodwind triangle.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick Dixon:
The sample sounds very good - I was never that sold on the drums on the first cd (sorry Mrs Fred), too many cymbols and not enough skins for my taste.


Hi, Patrick -

Thanks for the kind words about the excerpt you heard ... if you like that you'll like the whole album, it's all on that level which is quite easy to do when you've got McCandless and Rodby around.

As far as Dreamhouse and the drums, the approach Sarah took was exactly the right one, both for the music and the physical characteristics of the church in which we recorded ... it was quite ambient, and when Sarah leaned more into the drums (as you can hear in scattered moments throughout the album) clouds of reverb were kicked up. That kind of ambience is better for cymbal-centric music, which I consciously designed that album to be, not unlike the many ECM albums I've adored through the years. Being the consummate musician that she is, Sarah played the music for what it is, and did so superbly I might add.

By the way, I have recorded other albums which feature drums (skins and cymbals) much more prominently. I can give you more info if you're interested.

I hope you enjoy the new one.

All best,
Fred
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Lees:
No no no - the cymbal work on Dreamhouse is superb, played with subtlety and variety and never more so than on The Listening Well.


Thanks, Nick, for listening well.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
With all due respect, every album is what it is


At heart I very much agree with this sentiment, preferring to take in a musical work with no questions asked. Of course, if the music is lame, I may have a lot of questions. But if the music great, I've got none. I kind of like to sit back and enjoy the show ... not that I'm an inactive listener, but that I surrender.

On the other hand, it's natural to have preferences born of personal taste ... everyone does, as you yourself go on to write:

quote:
What I am _really _waiting for is Fred's wildest outpourings that he would love to do but thinks no-one would buy because it's so mad. I would pay double for that one. And it's in there. We just have to wait. I want to see Fred as no-more-mister-nice-guy. It would be fun Smile It would be fucking cool Cool A solo piano job.


You mean a solo piano mob job? Big Grin

That's more likely for me in a group setting, using keyboards, which, if you lived where I live, you could hear me do from time to time.

On the other hand, both Dreamhouse and Remember the River are in fact my "wildest outpourings" ... not in the sense that the music itself is wild, but that it's the musical voice closest to my heart and soul.

I've always felt strongly that there is nothing more avant-garde than making exactly the music you hear, no matter how much it may differ from what is conventionally considered avant-garde music.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick Dixon:
Shit we're not even allowed to have our own taste now!


You're always allowed to have your own taste!

What's not allowed is to taste your own ... Big Grin

quote:
At the end of the day, any artist is entitled to play what they want, how they want - and I'm entitled to like (and buy) or not like (and not buy) it.


Exactly.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by paolo g:
I my opinion having only listened to the samples, Brian Blade would be the best man for the Fred Simon gig.


Thanks, Paolo, for what I consider to be very high compliment ... Brian Blade is one of my favorite drummers in the world, and I agree he'd sound great playing my music.

All best,
Fred
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
Lots of rattle off the cor anglais keys but also amazing slap from the bass and added value attack when Fred gets carried away and hammers certain keys.

That's our percussion section, which is why we didn't use a drummer.



quote:
Hauntingly beautiful.

I love that description.



quote:
His best yet, BUY IT.

Very wise advice.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
BTW, I'm not offended - I just hope Fred and Mrs Fred aren't!


Certainly not. It's just that you're wrong. Winker
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Sundance:
OK OK Just ordered my copy Eek

Thanks, Sundance. I hope you dig it.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
What a small world. I've just discovered Fred Simon used to play with Mike Manring ...

Well, not exactly ... we've never actually played together at the same time in the same room. I did overdub a few minor synth parts on one of his albums, the excellent Drastic Measures, which was produced by Steve Rodby, who, by the way, played bass on my new Naim album, Remember the River ... have you heard it?
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by bob atherton:
Great news! I will now order my TWO copies as promised.

Thanks, Bob. I hope you dig it twice as much.
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
For your next album you need a new bassist.


Why? What's wrong with the old one?
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by woodface:
I had a listen on Sunday and I think this is a minor classic in the making. This is a truly beautiful album which all music lovers should own.


Thanks very much, Woodface, for the wonderful compliments ... I'm grateful.

May I quote you?
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by slim:
Just recieved my Fred Simon album, a real treat, some beautiful playing.


Slim, thanks so much for your kind words, they mean a lot to me. Glad you're digging the music.