Farmer's Market - a force for good?

Posted by: Roy T on 11 January 2005

Considering that boroughmarket is the only one I have visited of late I consider this a fair description of a Farmer's Market.

What do others think, any good examples in the London area worth a visit?

Farmers' markets? No thanks. That's sheer snobbery
By Richard Tomkins
Published: January 11 2005 02:00 | Last updated: January 11 2005 02:00

One of the oldest maxims in business is that scarcity sells. ("Buy now while stocks last!") It is just another expression of the law of supply and demand. So you have to hand it to those guys at the weekend farmers' markets that have become popular in the US, the UK and beyond. They may look like simple country folk trying to earn a few honest pennies from their back-breaking labour in the fields, but they need few lessons in how to separate urbanites from their money.

I know this because after a long and heroic resistance to the allure of the market just along the road from the Financial Times, I finally succumbed in the run-up to Christmas and decided to do some food shopping there. I had not intended to leave an hour or so later with 2kg of mini chipolata sausages, a mound of dry cured bacon and a vast ham - but how could I resist once told that the pigs from which the meat had come belonged to rare breeds? "Even rarer now!" I cackled gleefully as I staggered away with my booty.

As it turned out, the chipolatas were thoroughly nasty and the rest of the meat failed to impress. The surprise, though, was that I was surprised. If I had given the matter a moment's thought, I would have realised that there was a very good reason why rare breeds became rare: it was because people preferred other breeds. Right now, my biggest sausage nightmare is that the implied scarcity of rare pig breeds will so increase their popularity that the delicious supermarket pig becomes an endangered species and I end up next Christmas having to pay 10 times the cost of the turkey for a tray of Tesco's pork cocktail sausages.

Then again, the farmers' market phenomenon is riddled with such paradoxes. An even bigger selling point than scarcity is the fake sense of authenticity these markets convey. Admittedly, there was a time in pre-industrial history when local markets were the most effective way of bringing people and produce together, but today, supermarkets maximise economies of scale and value for money. So what could be more inauthentic than the sight of dozens of farmers erecting stalls in city centre lots and selling produce to wealthy loft-dwellers who have driven half a mile from their homes in gas-guzzling 4x4s?

And why are even mundane foodstuffs such as vegetables labelled "traditional" or "original" as if these words automatically conferred some kind of product superiority?

Everything was better in the good old days, we are encouraged to believe. Yet here lies another paradox. Once, you paid extra if you wanted only the best quality vegetables, carefully trimmed, thoroughly washed and properly packaged. Now, you pay extra if you want your vegetables authentically bruised, rotten and misshapen, covered in clods of earth, stuck on stalks or sprouting fronds and packed in flimsy paper bags that burst the moment you have handed over your money.

Perhaps the height of absurdity on my visit came when I found a stall advertising so-called heritage potatoes such as Pink Fir Apple 1850 and Ratte 1872 at about five times the price of high-quality supermarket potatoes. For heaven's sake, I muttered: sometimes a potato is just a potato. But then, at last, I realised what lay behind the rare pig breed and heritage potato syndrome: sheer snobbery.

A few years ago, in his book Bobos in Paradise, David Brooks noted how today's educated elites, renouncing conspicuous consumption, had established a new set of codes that defined what kinds of spending were acceptable. Buying big limousines and power boats was crass, but it was virtuous to practice the perfectionism of small things - for example, devoting fanatical attention to the purchase of exactly the right kind of pasta strainer, a distinctive doorknob or an ingeniously designed corkscrew.

Similarly, for the new upper class, it is now far too vulgar to be seen buying caviar and champagne. It is, however, a sign of good taste if you are prepared to spend flabbergasting amounts of money on a bag of potatoes or a lump of pigmeat. Ideally, of course, these should be cooked in an oven fired with carefully selected pieces of heritage coal lovingly hand-mined from a rare seam near a hamlet in South Wales and transported to the city by horse and cart. Yes, it costs a fortune, but you would not believe how much it enhances your food's flavour, texture and goodness.

Returning, though, to my shopping saga, there is just one more chapter. When buying my pigmeat, I was reassured to learn that the bacon had been dry cured with salt, saltpetre and brown sugar, with no artificial colour or smoke. Later that day, however, I stumbled upon a web page that said saltpetre was a nitrate, that nitrates decayed into nitrites, that nitrites combined with some food chemicals to form nitrosamines and that nitrosamines were among the most carcinogenic substances on earth.

It made me wonder. How do you trust these farmers' markets? The food, with all its supposed authenticity, may look healthy, but how do you really know? And what comeback do you have against a no-name stallholder if his products poison your family?

What we need is for someone to establish a chain of markets under a brand name that would stand as an assurance of quality and reliability. The food could be prepared with convenience in mind but scale economies and self-service would keep prices low - and for the greater comfort of shoppers, the markets could be placed inside clean, modern buildings with large car parks. They could be called super farmers' markets, or supermarkets for short. And they could have my custom any day. richard.tomkins@ft.com
Posted on: 11 January 2005 by Derek Wright
I have become a fan of farmers markets having been to one the Hampshire Farmers Markets in Petersfield in early December.

The produce was all from named farms and businesses from within Hampshire or within 10 miles of the country border

notable highlights, the Hereford beef, venison and salmon, the organic parmisan type cheese called Farmer's Hand (say it fast)

Also there was at least two small local breweries sampling and selling their products.

One Southwyk Brewery's Skew Ale was so good we visited the farm a few weeks later o buy some more.

Check out the Hampshire Farmers Market web site

Derek

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Posted on: 11 January 2005 by Roy T
Derek,
is this a rule that relates only to your farmer's market or is it something that relates to all farmer's markets?

quote:
The produce was all from named farms and businesses from within Hampshire or within 10 miles of the country border


I just wonder because I brought some venison and a pile of wild boar saussages and both come from way up in the North West deep into the Lake District . . . . most odd.

Another odd thing was the the "Line Caught Sea Bass" came in crates and one crate held fish that were a two person sized fish and the other crate held larger fish but all fish in a crate were the same size, isn't nature wonderful.

Are farmer's markets for local farmers or whoever can purchase a pitch?
Posted on: 11 January 2005 by Derek Wright
Roy - I know only about the Hampshire Market - the web site is very explicit about the origin and that the producers are present at the market so that the customer can talk to the producer, there was a tremendous exchange of information. The vendors were happy to talk and give information.

Incidentally there were a few suppliers from the Salisbury area - cheese and cakes etc etc.

Derek

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Posted on: 12 January 2005 by Matthew T
Roy,

Best bet is to track a Saterday morning drive into the country having already found your prefered butdher who gets local meat and knows his stuff and do your shopping there. You might also find a decent baker. Otherwise just go to Waitrose.

Matthew
Posted on: 12 January 2005 by dsteady
Roy,

That's a ridiculous article from Mr. Tomkins of the FC. Here in the States there is a sorry abundance of Neo-con assholes much like him who love to carry on about Farmer's Markets, and organics in general, being an insufferable manifestation of the 'new cultural elitism.'

Do these English Farmer's Markets tend towards organic produce and meats? In America they do, and hence the vital difference in price and health. Organic farmers simply cannot compete on the same 'economy of scale' with giant agri-businesses such as Ralston and ADM. Thus, they're products are more expensive. Yet in buying them you are also supporting local communities, and so enriching the community in which you live. (As for 'economies of scale' it is utterly predictable of a thinker whose cult is supply-side economics to hide behind that formulation in their defense of large scale agri-business.) People like Mr. Tomkins don't seem to give much of a damn for communities. They tend toward an economics which destroys communities. It is puzzling that he begins by condemning the Farmer's Market as a venue to attract the 'loft dwellers' driving their 'gas guzzling SUV's' only to conclude in praise of the 'large car park' of his idealised supermarket. Not sure of his logic there. Oh, that's right, there isn't any. How wonderfully second-rate.

In the States at least, where a common point of a farmer's market is organics, there is the additional argument of buying food that tastes better and is healthful. People like Mr. Tomkins also like to argue that the health benefits of organics are spurious; that there is no 'hard science' to back it up. This is just more f*ck!ng nonesense from the right. When people complain to me about the price of organics, I like ask them, "what's the price of chemo?" -- it won't factor too prettily in Mr. Tomkins' 'economy of scale.' Go support your farmer's market.

Pardon me my rant, I'll be surprised if anyone even read this far.

daniel

ps- and Roy, you should avoid sea-bass anyway -- the fish is severely overharvested. Now how that for P.C.?
Posted on: 13 January 2005 by reductionist
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Originally posted by dsteady:

Pardon me my rant, I'll be surprised if anyone even read this far.

daniel



I did, well said.

I can't stand the crap meat most supermarkets sell. I try to buy a little less of higher quality from a local supplier who also attends farmers markets. Its not organic but the animals are kept in better conditions. For example longer lived and fattened gently on grass.

>Will add something funny when I think of it.<
Posted on: 13 January 2005 by reductionist
And another thing ... to say rare breeds are rare because they don't taste as good is bollocks. Rare breeds were supersceded by breeds that produce more meat for less money and generally the taste is nowhere near as good. Also the highly bred animals tend to suffer more disease and in extreme cases are no longer viable as natural animals eg. Certan pedigree beef cattle only calving be Ceaserean (sp?) ... what a wonderful world this guy wants us all to inhabit.

>Will add something funny when I think of it.<
Posted on: 18 January 2005 by Martin D
After today’s Tesco profits the answer is absolutely yes, we and a few friends have vowed never to step in the place again. They make too much money. They are now so big the must be able to squeeze their suppliers till they scream.
Martin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4183965.stm
Posted on: 18 January 2005 by rodwsmith
As a sometime supplier to Tesco:

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

It now costs money just to talk to them...
Posted on: 19 January 2005 by Anna Tooth
"They are now so big the must be able to squeeze their suppliers till they scream."

There is a really good book on the food industry and supermarkets called "Not on the Label", can't remember the author. She used to write for the Guardian. Supermarkets have complete control over their suppliers in a very unpleasant way. For example, fruit and veg suppliers are forced to absorb the cost of the "free" item for Buy One Get One Free Offers. There are lots of examples.

Support your local organic fruit and veg farm/farmers market. Supermarket "organic veg" makes me cross too; at what cost when it's been airfreighted half way round the world? Or even driven half way across the UK.

Anna

(Not On The Label - What really goes into the food on your plate by Felicity Lawrence)
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Martin D
Interesting stuff. Has anyone read this
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Markus S
Yes. That book would have profited from a good editor. It would have been interesting if condensed to about 1/3, but you can't sell a slim brochure apparently.

The content is good but not terribly original.
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Rasher
All the time people complain about poor farming methods and tastless toxic food, generally they still go out and buy a frozen chicken for £1.28. The supermarkets can be blamed for pressing suppliers for the lowest prices, but surely we all shop around for the bargains - don't we? My local open market used to sell me fruit and vegetables that were not particularly good, and I became disillusioned and stopped going. If they have stalls selling organic produce, I wouldn't necessarily trust them that it actually is. The Borough Market is fantastic, but I don't live in London, and the main farm shop local to me is very very expensive, but good.
I don't know the answer, so we buy organic from Sainsburys. I'm now very happy that I gave up meat 18 years ago, because right now I would be seriously worried about the toll that that amount of toxins would take in later years.
Maybe I should try one of these organic produce delivery schemes.
Posted on: 20 January 2005 by Roy T
I feel that supermarkets do have a valid place in world of food shopping as they allow those who wish to shop on price alone to choose from a wide selection of goods. I see the world of the Farmer's Market shopper and the supermarket shopper often intersect at the deli counter or the organc area of the supermarket. A win Win for both forms of customer.

Know your supermarket shopper (taken from the other place)
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Martin Payne
There is a farm shop near us, selling mainly vegetables and a few local products. They do a roaring trade.

Little or nothing is labelled as organic, but quality is generally better than Sainsbury/Tesco/Morrison. I generally find Morrison to be both best quality & cheapest of the supermarkets.

BTW, it's not just snobbery - there's a similar, but crap equivilant shop ,uch closer to my village, but they seem to be deserted most of the time.

cheers, Martin