What is normal?
Posted by: Fisbey on 25 October 2004
When people say 'normally', or that's 'normal' - what terms of reference are they using?
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by oldie
Tommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Naughty, Naughty,Stop it at once
oldie.
Naughty, Naughty,Stop it at once
oldie.
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by JonR
Hang on a minute - which particular axe-wielding maniac are we talking about here?
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by oldie
quote:
Originally posted by kevinrt:
You can't tar all axe-wielding maniacs with the same brush.
Just because someone is wielding an axe, it doesn't mean they will cause you any harm.
Kevinrt,
Have you ever heard the old saying ," if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck
and I for one wouldn't want to take any chances
oldie
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by oldie
Tom,
Bet he is,
"lurking" out there ready to pounce on any wayward soul who strays from "Micks" straight and narrow, Now see what you've done I'm starting it as well
oldie.
Bet he is,
"lurking" out there ready to pounce on any wayward soul who strays from "Micks" straight and narrow, Now see what you've done I'm starting it as well
oldie.
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by Bubblechild
Naughty Tom and Oldie. Where is Mick, anyway?
Here's my 2p's worth...
- What is normal? Almost everything, if we could only see it clearly.
- What is my purpose? Finding out about love, I think.
- What is love? Love is God.
- What is God? God is love ('love one another, and you will be happy. It's as simple and as difficult as that' someone said in a play).
- All religions are signposts or parables, designed to help humans understand something that's essentially too big for us. In insisting they're 'true' or 'not true' or 'the only answer' we all catastrophically miss the point.
- Following a single religious path has its merits: like learning an instrument, what you might lack in breadth of experience you might make up for in depth. And claiming 'I'm a moral/spiritual person: I don't need organised religion' is too often a handy way of avoiding the scary process of challenge and growth.
- Rituals, traditions, symbols, reverence - all too easy to throw these babies out with the bathwater when scouring the tub with logic. Sometimes they work magic - like music and poetry and stuff can do.
- Truth is the loving answer, there to be listened out for somewhere. You could call it 'nature' or 'inner wisdom' or 'God' or 'the right thing to do'. I wonder if truth changes over time, and/or from person to person?
- Truth articulated is no longer quite true. It's like describing when the present is: 'now'...'now'...'now'...
[finishes off bottle and goes to bed]
Here's my 2p's worth...
- What is normal? Almost everything, if we could only see it clearly.
- What is my purpose? Finding out about love, I think.
- What is love? Love is God.
- What is God? God is love ('love one another, and you will be happy. It's as simple and as difficult as that' someone said in a play).
- All religions are signposts or parables, designed to help humans understand something that's essentially too big for us. In insisting they're 'true' or 'not true' or 'the only answer' we all catastrophically miss the point.
- Following a single religious path has its merits: like learning an instrument, what you might lack in breadth of experience you might make up for in depth. And claiming 'I'm a moral/spiritual person: I don't need organised religion' is too often a handy way of avoiding the scary process of challenge and growth.
- Rituals, traditions, symbols, reverence - all too easy to throw these babies out with the bathwater when scouring the tub with logic. Sometimes they work magic - like music and poetry and stuff can do.
- Truth is the loving answer, there to be listened out for somewhere. You could call it 'nature' or 'inner wisdom' or 'God' or 'the right thing to do'. I wonder if truth changes over time, and/or from person to person?
- Truth articulated is no longer quite true. It's like describing when the present is: 'now'...'now'...'now'...
[finishes off bottle and goes to bed]
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by Steve Toy
Bubblechild,
OMG.
Roolz are for foolz.
Live by your concsience.
It does work!
Regards,
Steve.
OMG.
Roolz are for foolz.
Live by your concsience.
It does work!
Regards,
Steve.
Posted on: 26 October 2004 by Deane F
Like Bob Dylan sang:
"You can't rely on conscience to be your guide, because it's you who must keep it satisfied."
The axe wielding thing - classic jurisprudential thinking would lead to the conclusion that laws are not a display of our collective moral wealth, but a good display of moral bankruptcy. We have law not because we have morals but because we don't have ethics.
The concept of "normal" - relies on perspective. Perspective requires position. The lack of awareness of the positional nature of a moral perspective leads to bigotry and prejudice.
Deane
"You can't rely on conscience to be your guide, because it's you who must keep it satisfied."
The axe wielding thing - classic jurisprudential thinking would lead to the conclusion that laws are not a display of our collective moral wealth, but a good display of moral bankruptcy. We have law not because we have morals but because we don't have ethics.
The concept of "normal" - relies on perspective. Perspective requires position. The lack of awareness of the positional nature of a moral perspective leads to bigotry and prejudice.
Deane