Closed Threads
Posted by: Doug Graham on 02 April 2007
Please note that I have removed 2 threads that were seen to be offensive to some members of this board.
I considered the content, and have to agree that in some of the posts a degree of inapropriate remarks were made against members and their views. There are plenty of places on-line where I'm sure this type of discussion would be welcome. Sorry if I've zapped any post that was imformative but to be honest this was the most expedient way for us to deal with mounting complaints about these threads.
I considered the content, and have to agree that in some of the posts a degree of inapropriate remarks were made against members and their views. There are plenty of places on-line where I'm sure this type of discussion would be welcome. Sorry if I've zapped any post that was imformative but to be honest this was the most expedient way for us to deal with mounting complaints about these threads.
Posted on: 02 April 2007 by Beano
No comment is a wonderful expression, I think I'll start using it more!
Beano
Beano
Posted on: 04 April 2007 by Haim Ronen
Beano,
I don't think you have to go that far.
I always thought that 'No comment' was such a wasteful expression. If I have nothing to say, I rather keep quiet than bother to announce to the world that I am not planning to say anything.
The problem that I see is that we are losing important topics of world events which we care about just because we are not able to conduct civilized discussions without personal accusations and insults.
The beauty of the forum is that we come from very different, countries, cultures, religions and political systems which enable us to have a very rich exchange of views and ideas. Why spoil it all with egos and one-upmanship?
I was sure that the discussion of the Lebanese war which we lost after so much input by so many members of the forum would have taught us a lesson, but here we have the topic of the British prisoners with very little to disagree about being closed for the same reasons...
The good news are that the British sailors are finally coming back home unharmed.
Now, wouldn't it be nice if a kind soul would just let the families of the two Israeli prisoners held my Hezbollah know if their dear ones are dead or alive?
Haim
I don't think you have to go that far.
I always thought that 'No comment' was such a wasteful expression. If I have nothing to say, I rather keep quiet than bother to announce to the world that I am not planning to say anything.
The problem that I see is that we are losing important topics of world events which we care about just because we are not able to conduct civilized discussions without personal accusations and insults.
The beauty of the forum is that we come from very different, countries, cultures, religions and political systems which enable us to have a very rich exchange of views and ideas. Why spoil it all with egos and one-upmanship?
I was sure that the discussion of the Lebanese war which we lost after so much input by so many members of the forum would have taught us a lesson, but here we have the topic of the British prisoners with very little to disagree about being closed for the same reasons...
The good news are that the British sailors are finally coming back home unharmed.
Now, wouldn't it be nice if a kind soul would just let the families of the two Israeli prisoners held my Hezbollah know if their dear ones are dead or alive?
Haim
Posted on: 05 April 2007 by Beano
Haim my auld segotia,
My cryptic post was about freedom of speech and communication; my viewpoint is that freedom should be hammered out on the anvil of discussion, dissent, and debate with the only weapon used being the tongue. Now the shortest word in the English language that contains the letters ABCDEF is feedback, which, I’m sure you’ll agree, is an essential element of communication. The Ideal conversation must be an exchange of thought, and not, as many of those who worry most about their shortcomings believe, an eloquent exhibition of wit or oratory.
Ninety-nine percent of all problems in communications start with misunderstandings which develop as a result of differing viewpoints and conditioning. Sometimes expressing the most difficult matters clearly and intelligently, is like striking coins out of pure gold.
Only the free can negotiate. So lets hope that those prisoners are communicating with each other, even if it means them knocking on a wall!
Happy Pesach and Good Seder!
Respectfully,
Beano
My cryptic post was about freedom of speech and communication; my viewpoint is that freedom should be hammered out on the anvil of discussion, dissent, and debate with the only weapon used being the tongue. Now the shortest word in the English language that contains the letters ABCDEF is feedback, which, I’m sure you’ll agree, is an essential element of communication. The Ideal conversation must be an exchange of thought, and not, as many of those who worry most about their shortcomings believe, an eloquent exhibition of wit or oratory.
Ninety-nine percent of all problems in communications start with misunderstandings which develop as a result of differing viewpoints and conditioning. Sometimes expressing the most difficult matters clearly and intelligently, is like striking coins out of pure gold.
Only the free can negotiate. So lets hope that those prisoners are communicating with each other, even if it means them knocking on a wall!
Happy Pesach and Good Seder!
Respectfully,
Beano
Posted on: 05 April 2007 by acad tsunami
quote:Originally posted by Haim Ronen:
Now, wouldn't it be nice if a kind soul would just let the families of the two Israeli prisoners held my Hezbollah know if their dear ones are dead or alive?
Yes, it is barbaric if they have not done so.
Posted on: 05 April 2007 by Haim Ronen
Beano,
Thanks, and you and your family have a very good Easter.
Erik,
It is always the same with them.
Three Israeli soldiers were abducted by Hezbollah in October of 2000. At the time the IDF hardly retaliated in hope of keeping the border quiet.
The Israeli government did not know at the negotiating time with Hezbollah the state of the soldiers. After freeing hundreds of prisoners the Israelis received in return the bodies of the missing soldiers.
Have a good holiday,
Haim
Thanks, and you and your family have a very good Easter.
Erik,
It is always the same with them.
Three Israeli soldiers were abducted by Hezbollah in October of 2000. At the time the IDF hardly retaliated in hope of keeping the border quiet.
The Israeli government did not know at the negotiating time with Hezbollah the state of the soldiers. After freeing hundreds of prisoners the Israelis received in return the bodies of the missing soldiers.
Have a good holiday,
Haim
Posted on: 05 April 2007 by acad tsunami
Hello Haim,
A happy Easter to you too, I trust you are well. Why didn't the IDF perform a proper swap at the border where sight of prisoners could be confirmed by both sides?
A happy Easter to you too, I trust you are well. Why didn't the IDF perform a proper swap at the border where sight of prisoners could be confirmed by both sides?
Posted on: 05 April 2007 by Haim Ronen
Erik,
I hope you are well too.
By the amount of blood found in their vehicles, the IDF estimated from the start that it was very likely that those soldiers were already dead.
However, the Israeli government was under tremendous pressure from the families of the missing soldiers as well as the media and the public to come up with a quick solution and they went ahead with the swap.
Interestingly enough, a nearby UN position had filmed the whole incident of abduction at the border but refused to show it to the Israelis who were trying to determine the fate of the soldiers.
Here is an article in Haaretz of today:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/845887.html
Regards,
Haim
I hope you are well too.
By the amount of blood found in their vehicles, the IDF estimated from the start that it was very likely that those soldiers were already dead.
However, the Israeli government was under tremendous pressure from the families of the missing soldiers as well as the media and the public to come up with a quick solution and they went ahead with the swap.
Interestingly enough, a nearby UN position had filmed the whole incident of abduction at the border but refused to show it to the Israelis who were trying to determine the fate of the soldiers.
Here is an article in Haaretz of today:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/845887.html
Regards,
Haim