A slight OOPS! moment
Posted by: Johns Naim on 20 October 2003
Heh, greetings all :-)
Whilst watching a movie, (such a heinous sin for a music lover, I know
) I suddenly found the crash, boom and bang of the soundtrack suffering from terminal interuptus as the rear speaker(s) announced this by a sound somewhat akin to a cross between a spoon rattling in a tin, and the noise usually found in public conveniences when various members of the public less polite than oneself, pass wind with gusto
A hurried inspection showed that the foam surrounds of the rear speakers had disintegrated!
OOPS!
Talk about deep bass and strong, er cone movements destroying themselves!
I made some enquiries today, and it appears I can have the cone surrounds repaired.
However the speakers are a bit on the old side (given to me by a friend for AV use) and are EPI/epicure acoustic suspension design dating from approx 15+ yrs back.
Query: these speakers suit my needs until such time as I can afford to replace them with something like Intro 2's , or perhaps the new Arriva etc.
As it would appear that any repair would involve a generic foam surround, I wonder if there is much variation in those sort of surrounds, and whether the end result would be worth it, and perhaps as in that old saying throwing good money after bad, I might not simply be better off biting the bullet and purchasing a new pair of bookshelfs for rear duties in an AV setup.
Has anyone had experience of re-foaming the surrounds of speakers, as to it either changing the quality of the sound, being or reliable, or just a waste of time etc?
Repairs would cost approx $200, and I could buy a new pair, of similar, or at least close specs for around $500 or thereabouts.
Money is pretty tight at the moment, so obviously a cheap repair is attractive, but not if it's false economy.
Any thoughts/comments anyone?
I had a listen this afternoon to some JMLab Chorus 705's and rather liked them. I'm also interested in having a listen to the little Tannoy MX2's as they seem to garner reasonable reviews and would be quite well specced re AV rear channel duties.
As always, much appreciative of comment from those more experienced in these matters than I.
Cheers
John...
Populist thinking exalts the simplistic and the ordinary
Whilst watching a movie, (such a heinous sin for a music lover, I know
) I suddenly found the crash, boom and bang of the soundtrack suffering from terminal interuptus as the rear speaker(s) announced this by a sound somewhat akin to a cross between a spoon rattling in a tin, and the noise usually found in public conveniences when various members of the public less polite than oneself, pass wind with gusto A hurried inspection showed that the foam surrounds of the rear speakers had disintegrated!
OOPS!
Talk about deep bass and strong, er cone movements destroying themselves!
I made some enquiries today, and it appears I can have the cone surrounds repaired.
However the speakers are a bit on the old side (given to me by a friend for AV use) and are EPI/epicure acoustic suspension design dating from approx 15+ yrs back.
Query: these speakers suit my needs until such time as I can afford to replace them with something like Intro 2's , or perhaps the new Arriva etc.
As it would appear that any repair would involve a generic foam surround, I wonder if there is much variation in those sort of surrounds, and whether the end result would be worth it, and perhaps as in that old saying throwing good money after bad, I might not simply be better off biting the bullet and purchasing a new pair of bookshelfs for rear duties in an AV setup.
Has anyone had experience of re-foaming the surrounds of speakers, as to it either changing the quality of the sound, being or reliable, or just a waste of time etc?
Repairs would cost approx $200, and I could buy a new pair, of similar, or at least close specs for around $500 or thereabouts.
Money is pretty tight at the moment, so obviously a cheap repair is attractive, but not if it's false economy.
Any thoughts/comments anyone?
I had a listen this afternoon to some JMLab Chorus 705's and rather liked them. I'm also interested in having a listen to the little Tannoy MX2's as they seem to garner reasonable reviews and would be quite well specced re AV rear channel duties.
As always, much appreciative of comment from those more experienced in these matters than I.
Cheers
John...
Populist thinking exalts the simplistic and the ordinary
Greetings
Thank you Raphael and Greeny for your helpful comments.
Well, a decision was made, after some reading of reviews, telephoning, and running around auditioning speakers this week, and I now have a new pair of Tannoy MX2-M's doing rear surround duty.
I consulted with my friend who gave me the Epicure/EPI's and it seemed like it was closer to 20yrs since he bought them.
With their age in mind, I contacted a local speaker repairer, however after some consultation, I felt that things could quickly escalate cost wise, plus given the way the actual cone is a sandwich of plastic AND foam, the continuation of which forms the surround, there was some doubt in my mind as to the positive outcome of any repairs.
So it was that I decided to pursue the purchase of some new speakers, and after some reading, and auditioning, I came to a shortlist of JMLab Chorus 706's, B&W 303's, and the MX2 Tannoys.
I eventually settled on the Tannoys, and they are presently installed and 'runnning in'.
To be frank, I was quite astounded at the value for money; they are made in China, with Vinyl wrap, but everything appears to be of good quality throughout re drivers, crossover and cabinetry, and I would not have believed how far small bookshelf/standmount speakers have come performance wise over the last few years - especially given the cheap price.
As well as looking far better than the old boxes, their level of performance knocks the old ones into a cocked hat, and has elevated the HT/AV/Movie experience to a much higher plane in every area.
Smoothness, detail, dynamics, transient response, soundstaging etc have all improved out of sight, and if anything they 'blend' better soundwise with the SBl's than the old.
All in all, I'm quite delighted, and very pleased with the performance/aesthetics and the outcome overall.
Thanks once again guys for the advice - much appreciated.
Cheers
John...
Populist thinking exalts the simplistic and the ordinary
Thank you Raphael and Greeny for your helpful comments.
Well, a decision was made, after some reading of reviews, telephoning, and running around auditioning speakers this week, and I now have a new pair of Tannoy MX2-M's doing rear surround duty.
I consulted with my friend who gave me the Epicure/EPI's and it seemed like it was closer to 20yrs since he bought them.
With their age in mind, I contacted a local speaker repairer, however after some consultation, I felt that things could quickly escalate cost wise, plus given the way the actual cone is a sandwich of plastic AND foam, the continuation of which forms the surround, there was some doubt in my mind as to the positive outcome of any repairs.
So it was that I decided to pursue the purchase of some new speakers, and after some reading, and auditioning, I came to a shortlist of JMLab Chorus 706's, B&W 303's, and the MX2 Tannoys.
I eventually settled on the Tannoys, and they are presently installed and 'runnning in'.
To be frank, I was quite astounded at the value for money; they are made in China, with Vinyl wrap, but everything appears to be of good quality throughout re drivers, crossover and cabinetry, and I would not have believed how far small bookshelf/standmount speakers have come performance wise over the last few years - especially given the cheap price.
As well as looking far better than the old boxes, their level of performance knocks the old ones into a cocked hat, and has elevated the HT/AV/Movie experience to a much higher plane in every area.
Smoothness, detail, dynamics, transient response, soundstaging etc have all improved out of sight, and if anything they 'blend' better soundwise with the SBl's than the old.
All in all, I'm quite delighted, and very pleased with the performance/aesthetics and the outcome overall.
Thanks once again guys for the advice - much appreciated.
Cheers
John...
Populist thinking exalts the simplistic and the ordinary