The Hutton Report

Hutton in German means Cottage !

Fritz Von Notalotovpeopleknowthat

Fritz,

the word you mean is Hütte. Not quite the same thing, I'm afraid.

Markus von notalotofpeoplecaretoknowthat

I didn't see the BBC news last night, I saw ITV. How did the beeb report it? It seems Gilligan is up for a roasting. Don't like to say I told you so, but I told you so..
Kelly was no saint, and why would he commit suicide over a career manouvre? It hardly warrants suicide? We've all done stupid things. Blair would have committed suicide about ten times by now!!

I can't beleive the Sun has reported this as fact based on a single unidentified source. Standards of journalism really are slipping.

matthew

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Originally posted by Markus Sauer:
Fritz,

the word you mean is Hütte. Not quite the same thing, I'm afraid.

Markus von notalotofpeoplecaretoknowthat

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Tell that to my neighbours in hüttenweg my Norwegian friend, YAWN.

Fritz Von Humourisanacquiredtasteitseems

Piss² It's known as Literary Licence innit:

Marcus, here's something to put you in the right directzion my old mate ! http://www.fazed.net/common/content/out.php?id=3504

Fritz Von What'snewpussycat

Interesting comment in The Times yesterday about Claire Short speaking to the BBC Today editor about the same time as Gilligan started to discuss his findings from Kelly effectively sensitising the Today program to the behaviour in No 10 and in a sens pre valdidating Gilligan

Derek

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Lord Hutton himself is in some serious need of some sexing up. He doesn't half drone on.

Matthew

So what now for the beeb?
Will Tony Blair now get an apology from Michael Howard in the house of commons, as he previously asked for should this be the outcome?
Roll on the next installment

Tomorrow's Sun headline:

'Weapons of Mass Destruction Found!'.

Friday's

'Maybe'

Saturday's

'Not'

Monday's small print on p.94 'oops'

So, in summary then -

David Kelly - criticised.

Andrew Gilligan - severely criticised.

BBC Editorial Staff - strongly criticised.

BBC Board of Governors - strongly criticised.

MOD - mildly criticised with mitigation.

JIC and Intelligence services - beyond criticism.

Government - beyond criticism.

Teflon Tone - beyond criticism.

Downing Street Staff - beyond criticism.

Well, that's all right then

David

"Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours." :Carl Sagan

I second that Sir:

Fritz Von Obviousinnit

The international ramifications of this whole thing are what worries me most.

The BBC has been sexing (parts of) itself up for years now. On the Continent there are still old folks who chastize their local TV entertainment with reference to the high standards of the BBC - apparently unaware that most of BBC TV is either cooking shows, makeover shows or standup comedians sitting down with each other for a laugh.

However, that's just entertainment.

The BBC is not just for Britain, but used to be the source for good reporting all over the world. It's going to be very tough henceforth to say to fundamentalists of whatever stripe "I know how you feel, but research has shown the truth is different." The Hutton Report will be a great opportunity for anti-western forces everywhere to say the White Man's Story is no good. In the fight for a better world with more freedom this could be a devastating blow.

Herman

The only thing that I find worrying about this whole sad affair is that with all the hype and spin that No 10 is putting out[again]we seem to have forgotten that it was Blair that set up the public inquiry ,set the conditions and parameters,limited the overall scope of the inqiry and finally chose the judge. Should we have been supprised at the out come ??, or am I being just a bit too cynical?
oldie.

I think in the fullness of time Hutton will prove to be Campbell's finest achievement -- the government was facing huge and difficult questions from a disgruntled public and parliament about being seemingly duped into going to war and somehow it all got reduced to an argument about some dodgy reporting by the BBC.

Matthew

I was off work and watched most of the coverage at home yesterday. After the formal report was announced Michael Howard huffed and puffed like an idiot but crucially in Question Time (when he knew the content but could not comment upon it) he focussed questions on the issue of the evidence for WMD, when it would be published etc. Perhaps the emphasis can be kept up on this issue, and the quality of the intelligence that informed the Govt then (and now).

This is the line being pushed hard by the US opposition too. I'm not sure that it is going to go away just because Blair was given a halo by Hutton.

BTW Can anyone actually tell me what a BBC governor/chairman/president actually does/should do and how they are regulated/employed/mandated?

Bruce

So...another new Tory leader then.

I put it that the BBC should fully and unreservedly applogise to the Prime Minister, once naturally those elusive WMD's are produced and substantiated.

Fritz Von Chiefexectutivescomeandgobutauntiebeebremainsinnit

Piss² Wonderful television Dwama in the house yesterday, Who will get the Film Right's, a certain Kiwi possibly ?

Matthew -

I think you are right...

Tim

Why assume the report is correct.

Politicians are known to be economical with the truth when it suits them.

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Originally posted by Matthew Robinson:
I think in the fullness of time Hutton will prove to be Campbell's finest achievement -- the government was facing huge and difficult questions from a disgruntled public and parliament about being seemingly duped into going to war and somehow it all got reduced to an argument about some dodgy reporting by the BBC.

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Indeed. There was a Labour spokesman on BBC Scotland this morning trying to say that the Hutton report had covered the WMD thing and there was no need for any further inquiry.

Anyway the "justification" for the war and the subsequent failure to find any WMD's means that Tony and his pals were either lying or stupid, and Hutton says they weren't lying...

Regards
Steve

Exactly!!!!!
oldie.

Sorry brain dead, should have read Exactly !!!
Peter.
oldie.

Judging from comments on here, I don't get the impression that the Blair Govt has emerged from Hutton with any more real credibility than they started the week with. Trying to get even a gullible public to accept they were absolutely blameless in all respects is a tough call.

If they'd accepted just a smidgeon of responsibility, it would have been far more believable, but now it just looks like an obvious whitewash job.

I suspect that Auntie won't be well pleased either. People at the BEEB have long memories and this will ensure they keep Blair in their sights until the smoking gun is finally found. He's made bad enemies there!

David