Download an MP3 or buy the Cd and then rip?

Posted by: ianmacd on 15 February 2010

Hi

I am currently setting up the following:

Mac Mini with SSD drive & Amarra Mini software, Weiss Dac 2 into Naim 102 with Supercap 2, 135s x 2 and a CDX2 (which I hope will become redundant.)

My question: I want to get the best possible quality so, say a particular album was only available as mp3 download from iTunes, would I be better buying the actual CD and then ripping that?

Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

Ian
Posted on: 15 February 2010 by Aleg
I don't understand why you would bother using MP3, when you have such a high end set.
Go for some lossless format and keep some quality in your music.

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aleg
Posted on: 15 February 2010 by ianmacd
Hi Aleg

Yes, my current ripped cds are all hi quality lossless.

My question is, when buying new music should I always buy an album cd and rip rather than download the album mp3 from iTunes Store if I want the best quality? As far as I know, there are no high quality options on the iTunes Store, am I correct?

Many thanks, Ian
Posted on: 15 February 2010 by T38.45
Some high-end folks will kill me... but mp3 with 320k sounds really really good, better than some flacs i ripped from my CDs!
Posted on: 15 February 2010 by Alco
Imho mp3's from 320k sound fine indeed. Everything less though is enough for me to buy the original CD and rip it.

I'd have a pretty hard time keeping a 320k mp3 apart from the original CD. (tried it once when I still had a CD5x)

regards,
Alco
Posted on: 15 February 2010 by Michael Chare
quote:
Originally posted by ianmacd:
Hi Aleg

Yes, my current ripped cds are all hi quality lossless.

My question is, when buying new music should I always buy an album cd and rip rather than download the album mp3 from iTunes Store if I want the best quality? As far as I know, there are no high quality options on the iTunes Store, am I correct?

Many thanks, Ian
Assuming the same price, I would get the CD. You can create a 320k mp3 file from this but you can't do the reverse. Also if you keep the CD in a save place you are relatively unlikely to loose it.

I would mot like to claim that I can hear any difference between a 320k mp3 and a lossless 16/48 flac file.

I wanted to download some music from www.songs.sky.com but they would not tell me whether the music was 320k or 192k bps before I made a purchase. The CD version is no longer available.
Posted on: 15 February 2010 by Bananahead
I rip to 320k MP3. But that is simply because they only get used over ipod/headphones for a few minutes each day. On a proper system I can easily tell the difference between wav and 320k MP3. And that is from an ipod.
Posted on: 15 February 2010 by winkyincanada
Best possible quality will ususally come from the CD rip, provided it is done competently to a lossless format. Exceptions will be that uncompressed (or losslessly compressed) higher bit-depth/sampling-rate downloads from specialised sites like the Naim Label and HDTracks will (theoretically) be better-than-CD quality.

The iTunes store does not offer full CD quality.
Posted on: 16 February 2010 by ianmacd
Thanks for the advice, it's helped me to decide that where possible I will buy the CD and rip from that,

Kind regards Ian
Posted on: 16 February 2010 by Pev
I find most CDs that aren't brand new releases are available far cheaper than the rip off prices iTunes charges - and I'm talking about in shops as well as online. I'm a reluctant user of iTunes as the Ipod touch is a nice device but I hate the whole rip off closed standards philosophy of Apple - they are even charging for a straight software update for my Ipod. Only downside of buying the CD and ripping is storing the things.
Posted on: 16 February 2010 by js
quote:
Originally posted by T38.45:
Some high-end folks will kill me... but mp3 with 320k sounds really really good, better than some flacs i ripped from my CDs!
Odd because I just went to FLAC on my portable despite wanting the extra space of 320. I do think 320 is generally good enough for portables and can hear FLAC also but in this instance, it made the combo much more enjoyable. I think that you're one of those that should just stick to .wav or AIFF and avoid picking your poison. Regardless, there are very few places that 320 downloads are available. I-tunes stops at 256 so ripping is the only option other then some high end downloads from distributors like Naim.
Posted on: 16 February 2010 by church warden
In the UK 7Digital do plenty of 320kbps downloads.

That said, I still prefer to buy cds and do the rip myself.