Bl**dy cyclists! (Pt 2)

Dear Ian,

Please do not generalise too much. I have already stated that I also am a driver, and a cyclist, and when driving I am very careful with cyclists and pedestrians, dogs, cats, game birds ...

When I ride the bike, I do not ride down the inside of cars and lorries at junctions, do not jump the lights, do not weave in the traffic, and am especially careful of pedestrians who frequently use their ears as much as their eyes, and a nicely fettled push-bike is virtually silent.

I have almost never encountered bad temper from car drivers. In my career on the road, I have twice been knocked off my bike by cars driven by inattentive drivers, and have myself never come close to hitting a cyclist or pedestrian driving a car.

And as for the poor person who admitted to hearing the difference in USB cables, I was active on that thread and certainly did not jump on him for what he said.

I tend to think perfectly adequate mains cables, interconnects, and other [digital type] cables can be bought quite reasonably in the double digit range at most, and the results will not be less than enjoyable for me, but I realise that this is a hobby and if spending five hundred or a thousand pounds on exotic cables [and yes the Hiline and Powerline are highly exotic cables] may please people very much for the minimal actual gain in quality, then why should I question it? But please just don’t expect me to join in!

But I do agree the standard of decorum on the Forum has fallen through the floor over the last twelve months. So much so that I hardly feel comfortable posting here sometimes ...

ATB from George

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I have just completed a 8 week course with the CTC for cycling.

Mick, have you become a CTC member? You get third party insurance, a legal defence fund and some effective campaigning and lobbying.

C

as both a driver and cyclist, the types that give me grief daily are pedestrians - today alone i had to take evasive action to avoid about 6 of the buggers stepping out into oxford street (hardly a quiet country lane) without looking in the direction that traffic was arriving from. darwin award nominees the lot of them!

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Originally posted by GFFJ:
Dear Ian,

And as for the poor person who admitted to hearing the difference in USB cables, I was active on that thread and certainly did not jump on him for what he said.


ATB from George

George

I definitely wasn't referring to yourself in my post. I regard you as one of the more courteous contributors to the Naim forum.

Ian

Dear Ian,

I agree with the general thrust of your post, and think the real issue with manners on the forum is really a question of disagreeing with an opinion without calling the person being disagreed with a "fathead" in so many words.

That is what has gone wrong. And it is ruining the possibility of really probing differences, which is what civilised conversation is about!

ATB from George

Let it be known: Cyclists have more right of way than cars - Buses have more right of way than cyclists - Predestrians have more right of way than everyone.

Biggest thing that annoys me with cyclists is no lights at night, which is just plain stupid, and no rear observations full stop.

Everyone seems to be more in a rush than you, so, F**k you seems to be the order of the day. whether this be cyclists, car drivers or even standing at the bar ordering a pint!

It's just the way our society has become. All very selfish.

(my willie is bigger than yours - NOT - )

regards, steve

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Originally posted by GFFJ:But I do agree the standard of decorum on the Forum has fallen through the floor over the last twelve months. So much so that I hardly feel comfortable posting here sometimes ...

ATB from George

I feel the same way george... but it does seem to be happening everywhere not just this forum IME.

ATB, Steve

Chaps

I think the standard of politeness here, whilst not perfect, is reasonable. I have certainly made an effort to cut out the name calling but my major complaint is we still seem to end up with brain dead drivel that would fail to stimulate a 6 year old in some threads.

Returning on topic, all groups have some inherent faults and I agree with Stephen that cyclist who drive without lights are just plain stupid.

Taxing bicycles is just not practical. Some people have a bike in the garage and may only use it once or twice a year. Also how on earth do you economically administer it without incurring a cost that will put thousands of cyclists off using them. What do you do with untaxed bicycles?, do you scrap them which is not very green or do you SORN them which is a beaurocratic nightmare.

Surely the best way forward is to be covered on a blanket insurance for 3rd party only, so that any damaged caused by whatever bicycle you are riding, is automatically covered. In other words, cover the rider rather than the bike.

Regards

Mick

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Chaps

I think the standard of politeness here, whilst not perfect, is reasonable. I have certainly made an effort to cut out the name calling.



Regards

Mick

must try harder.

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Originally posted by Stephen Tate:

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Originally posted by GFFJ:But I do agree the standard of decorum on the Forum has fallen through the floor over the last twelve months. So much so that I hardly feel comfortable posting here sometimes.

I feel the same way George... but it does seem to be happening everywhere not just this forum IME.

ATB, Steve

The lack of manners is everywhere, I quite agree! It s probably why motorosts hate cyclists so much! Cyclists are as rude as anyone else these days!

ATB from George

George

I stick religiously to speed limits and will position myself in the road so as no one else can overtake me. In other words I force others to comply with the speed limits.

My friends in the police are very supportive of this action and yet I have lost count of the amount of V signs and one fingered salutes that are directed towards me.

Some motorists are indeed uncouth.

Regards

Mick

Dear Mick,

Driving what is almost a relique from a past age in motoring [Volvo 240], I seem to get the acceptance that I am going to carry on at the legal speed limit without expections otherwise, but I take comfort from the fact that there is about ten foot of strong steel behind me if I get shunted!

One day I was shouted at from a car in town which effective amounted to calling me a "slow old ******!" When we then were stopped at the next lights [they had overtaken in a quite silly and dangerous way], I replied with a huge grin that at least I had survived to be "old!" I gave the thumbs up to the swivel finger I got for my response! I do find blowing a kiss is quite good as well! It makes them [usually young men] hesitate for a second [as they work out if this is meant to be funny or a sign of uncertain sexuality!], and that is all that is needed! A little bit of humour oftens serves to lower the temperature, or at least confuse!

Some people, hey!

ATB from George

Good one George blow them a kiss, it'll help make the world go round. I think it very funny when unsuspecting males are surprised to have someone "come on to them". That sudden hesitation expression is soooo funny. What is going thru that animal brain they have?

I like the way those cyclists have nothing bright or reflective on. You cant see them so why should you be fined for hitting one? They certainly do have the coordination and muscle skills to get around, very hearty folk, but totally inconsiderate to pedestrians.

One law we have here says motorcyclists on freeways can go between lanes because they're air cooled and in traffic they would overheat. Now that has morphed into 60-70 MPH rush hour traffic with motorcyclists shooting down between vehicles. Yikes!!! When I do see one behind me I tend to move over a scootch to give them room.

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
I stick religiously to speed limits and will position myself in the road so as no one else can overtake me. In other words I force others to comply with the speed limits.

So if somebody attempts to overtake you then you will block their path? How fucking stupid and dangerous is that?

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My friends in the police are very supportive of this action and yet I have lost count of the amount of V signs and one fingered salutes that are directed towards me.

Your Police friends condone dangerous driving??

Guinnless


There is no excuse to speed and if someone overtakes me they are speeding and breaking the law. Therefore they are the dangerous ones, not me. If you speed, you risk getting points because you are stupid and dangerous.

That is why the police often cruise at one mile below the speed limit, no one will over take them. I do the same with their blessing.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

If you drive at the speed limit as shown by your speedo then you are likely to be doing 27 in a 30 for example. Get a satnav like a tomtom and you will see what I mean. If someone overtakes you then maybe they are doing the appropiate speed?

Question for you if you are traveling down a slip road to join a motorway and the trafic is doing 78 for example. If you join at 70 then you will be a bloody danger to your self and the people around you. The safe thing to do is to join at 78 and then bring down your speed to 70 (about 74 on most speedo's) when and only when it is safe to do so.

If you disagree with this veiw I hope we never meet on the road because your may be a danger to me.

The police do not nick drivers for driving at slightly above the limit if they are driving to a high standard. They do on the other hand nick people for being a mennace for driving too slowly for the conditions. It's called lack of progress.

Driving is not a matter of black and white it has many shades of grey, and the shade of grey changes all the time depending on conditions.

Please for your own safty and that of others do some form of advanced training.

Please note I have a clean licence and I make good progress when it is safe to do so.

Don

Don

I have never been convicted of speeding and have held a licence since 1965.

The police will almost certainly nick you for speeding by 3mph (motorways excluded) because the more nicks, the better their career prospects and the income from the fines is always welcome.

As regards to the slip road question, most motorist on the motorway leave a free lane for new comers to join.

However, those mostorist should not be driving at 78mph, they are breaking the law.

Speed limits are put there for a reason.

Regards

Mick

Mick, you hav missed the point. As a general rule 10% plus 2 is allowed providing the driving is of a high standard. Your point re clear lane is invalid. Think about it, if you join at a speed that forces other drives to move into an overtaling lane then maybe you need to change your driving technique.

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Guinnless


There is no excuse to speed and if someone overtakes me they are speeding and breaking the law. Therefore they are the dangerous ones, not me. If you speed, you risk getting points because you are stupid and dangerous.

That is why the police often cruise at one mile below the speed limit, no one will over take them. I do the same with their blessing.

Regards

Mick

You didn't answer my question. "Do you attempt to block the path of people overtaking, or attempting to overtake?"

Guinless

Think my little man just think.

Regards

Mick

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Originally posted by Guinnless:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guinnless:
I'm not your little man, Mick.

You said

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will position myself in the road so as no one else can overtake me

I asked

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So if somebody attempts to overtake you then you will block their path?

I asked again.

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Do you attempt to block the path of people overtaking, or attempting to overtake?

I rather suspect that your answer is "no" and your support from the Peelers is questionable too.

Guinnless

Do you expect me to take you serious when you cannot even reply correctly.

Are you so stupid that you could not even delete your surplus replies.

I just hope your driving skills are better than your pc ones.

Funny story. One day in the Bromwich Road here in Worcester I was overtaken by a 30 mph hairdrier! Sorry I meant that on my Carlton push bike, a regulated to thirty mph scooter overhauled me! I decided to retake him, which I just managed with probably the greatest single effort I ever managed on the Carlton [apart from long rides, but this was a sprint, which is not my normal style, which does tend to be quick progress over a much longer distance]. When I had overhauled him, I retired with a thumbs up and he retook me again! The thumbs up was returned! I guess I broke the speed limit in the process, but probably not by the requisite more than 10 per cent!

ATB from George

good for you George.

In college in Colorado I'd bought a 12 speed for campus in summer. One Sunday went out to the farm country, slogging it up one long grade 2 farm dogs came out barking by the time I was past the drive I was pumping hard in high gear, those dogs nipping at my heels then they gave up, I went flying over the top, but I dare not to go back the same way. I didn't get home till nightfall, exhausted.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mick Parry:
George

I stick religiously to speed limits and will position myself in the road so as no one else can overtake me. In other words I force others to comply with the speed limits , personally i think that is a very silly and selfish thing to do that is the best the way of getting someone killed,say like a car comming the opposite way,